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Explosive Story: GOP has asked British SS to bug phones of American political candidates!

Posted on 02/15/2004 8:36:43 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs

FOX NEWS 11:25am EST 2-15-2004

Fox news is interviewing John Loftus, Formers Justice Department Prosectutor who states that he has an inside scoop that "the Republican Party has asked the British Secret Service to bug phones of American political Candidates. "

FOX NEWS Eric Shawn: "It's a very serious and very shocking story."

JOHN LOFTUS: "That allegation seems very storng of that is the case. Why would any political party want to bug someone else?

It's a juicy way of running a smear campaign behind the works. We have been doing that for about 50 years and it started with president Roosevelt. He had signed a secret treaty with Britian in 1943 that let them each set up listening posts on each other's soil with no search warrants. It's a great little scheme. "

"So the British can use American computers to bug American politicians, and the Americans can use British computers to bug British politicians and each side can truthfully say that they aren't spying on their own citizens. They are just trading information under the table."

ERIC: How widespread is this. Members of the Security Council admitted to me that they are being bugged and that it wasn't surprising, they expected that.

JOHN: "What congress doesn't realise is that this is meant to favor one party only. In 1978 Carter tried to ban taping without a court order. So the bill is that the NSA cannot target american citizens, but not other countries from doing it. "


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 2004; dnc; electionpresident; ericshawn; foxnews; johnloftus; rnc; transcript
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To: Peach; Hillary's Lovely Legs; Admin Moderator
Why do we/you have two threads going currently about this matter? Would you please ask the Lead Admin. to fix this?

Agreed. Can we consolidate the threads? They are both moving quickly and it's difficult to follow both.

41 posted on 02/15/2004 8:57:18 AM PST by johniegrad
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To: dirtboy
Echelon in the UK monitors all US calls.

Echelon doesn't monitor voice, it monitors data.

42 posted on 02/15/2004 8:57:29 AM PST by killjoy
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
I think this is common (having a foreign government spy on American citizens to get around constitutional and legal considerations). I don't think there is anything illegal about it. Why would anyone object to the government violating no laws?
43 posted on 02/15/2004 8:57:36 AM PST by templar
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To: American_Centurion
Thanks for posting the web site!! A short examination reveals this Loftus to bee a slimeball with a tin foil hat.
44 posted on 02/15/2004 8:57:55 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: u-89
We (the US and the Brits) were supposedly tapping the UN during the run up to the war with Iraq too.

I hear the Brits are trying to put that whistleblower in jail. Seems reporting the crime is a more serious matter than performing it.

45 posted on 02/15/2004 8:58:20 AM PST by steve50 ("Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under." -H. L. Mencken)
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To: mewzilla
BTW, I think the sudden deluge of all this expletive-deleted makes it pretty clear to anyone with any brains at all that John Kerry is in some pretty deep kimchee.
46 posted on 02/15/2004 8:58:47 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: sinkspur
No the government would never bug its opponents. Of coursse not!
47 posted on 02/15/2004 8:58:48 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: steve50; All
Just so you know, Loftus thinks the Bush family is filled with Nazis and he also works with Bob Fertik, a known Clintonite...just want to give a bit of perspective here.
48 posted on 02/15/2004 8:58:53 AM PST by Wait4Truth
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To: killjoy
Echelon doesn't monitor voice, it monitors data.

It monitors both:

Echelon is perhaps the most powerful intelligence gathering organization in the world. Several credible reports suggest that this global electronic communications surveillance system presents an extreme threat to the privacy of people all over the world. According to these reports, ECHELON attempts to capture staggering volumes of satellite, microwave, cellular and fiber-optic traffic, including communications to and from North America. This vast quantity of voice and data communications are then processed through sophisticated filtering technologies.

49 posted on 02/15/2004 8:59:26 AM PST by dirtboy (John Kerry - talking out both ends of the horse since 1970...)
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To: WHBates
o the Brits have such a thing called a secret service?? sounds odd to me.

He is talking about GCHQ. They are very good at what they do. They are the British version of the American NSA.

50 posted on 02/15/2004 8:59:40 AM PST by killjoy
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To: JimSEA
FNC can't be bothered to investigate the Kerry rumors. What in Hades are they doing giving a tinfoil type airtime for something like this?
51 posted on 02/15/2004 8:59:56 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
This sounds like the kind of story the Clintons could offer up.
They would certainly have the inside knowledge.
52 posted on 02/15/2004 9:01:00 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: steve50
Reeks of Watergate. If true it should have the same result.

Your post reeks of naivete and a certain split from reality.

53 posted on 02/15/2004 9:01:09 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: JimSEA
I'm sure his reasons for accusing the GOP of doing this are completely fair and non-partisan.

After all he says he serves on Muslim boards so that is proof positive that he's a caring, tolerant individual concerned with diversity.

< /mostbittersarcasm >

54 posted on 02/15/2004 9:01:18 AM PST by American_Centurion (Daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime - Nicole Gelinas)
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To: Wait4Truth
Just so you know, Loftus thinks the Bush family is filled with Nazis and he also works with Bob Fertik, a known Clintonite...just want to give a bit of perspective here. ..

Glad it was perspective and not just an attack to discredit the source. Way too much of that going on lately and it does little to address the issue.

55 posted on 02/15/2004 9:03:11 AM PST by steve50 ("Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under." -H. L. Mencken)
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To: dirtboy
This vast quantity of voice and data communications are then processed through sophisticated filtering technologies.

According to the original reports, and I have met personally with a few of the authors, the original version of Echelon did not monitor voice. Voice is monitored, but it is not by Eschelon. Eschelon was solely for sifting through data.

56 posted on 02/15/2004 9:03:18 AM PST by killjoy
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
John's Latest Projects

Loftus explores Bush-Nazi scandal (posted 12/11/03)
Loftus Views on Secrecy: In response to a coded note from an anonymous spy
CNN Interview: Convicted Spy Challenges Life Term - 9/2/03 (posted 10/7/03)
Why Loftus serves on pro-Muslim boards
Palast article on Bush Sr - Al Qaeda coverup (posted 8/17/03)
The Truth About Jonathan Pollard (posted 8/17/03)
Pipeline of Hatred: Presentation of interest about Anti-Semitism
Read a review on John's Book "The Secret War Against the Jews"
Loftus vindicated by Al Arian arrest - 2/20/03
John's Press Release on the Saudis
What Congress Does Not Know about Enron and 9/11
57 posted on 02/15/2004 9:03:31 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Here is something from John Loftus' last column:

Former Federal Prosecutor John Loftus confirms the Bush-Nazi scandal Copyright October 31. 2003 Some of our most famous American families, including the Bushes, made their fortunes from the Holocaust. Before I tell this awful story, I have to admit that I am a Democrat, but I quite like this President. He is not the sharpest tool in the shed, but he has a good heart, and the good sense not to follow in his father's footsteps. "W" has some good people around him who keep a firewall in the White House against his father's oil cronies. In terms of Republican politics, "W" is a rebel.

Morally, George W. Bush is the polar opposite of his grandfather and great grandfather (the "W" stands for Walker) who caused such havoc in the world with their Nazi investments. One cannot blame "W" for what his grandfather did, anymore than one can blame Jack Kennedy because his father bought Nazi stocks. What most people do not know is that Joseph Kennedy bought his Nazi stocks from Prescott Bush. Every great family has its scandal. The Bush family's scandal is that they funded Hitler and profited from the Holocaust...

http://www.john-loftus.com/bush_nazi_scandal.asp

Just so we know where these charges are coming from.

58 posted on 02/15/2004 9:03:35 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: Lancey Howard
This sounds like the kind of story the Clintons could offer up.
They would certainly have the inside knowledge.

Yup, she has said on the Senate floor that she "...knows how thing happen in the White House".

59 posted on 02/15/2004 9:04:11 AM PST by StriperSniper (Manuel Miranda - Whistleblower)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
We vet these guys in one minute, it's amazing that the media can not do the same.
60 posted on 02/15/2004 9:04:47 AM PST by jwalsh07
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