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Outsource the CEO next time
The Sacramento Bee ^ | Sunday, February 15, 2004 | Rich Heintz

Posted on 02/15/2004 11:13:30 AM PST by Willie Green

Edited on 04/12/2004 6:05:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Scene: the HP board room.

Time: the not-too-distant future.

Agenda item: profits.

The board is calling in Fiorini to announce the latest plan to boost company revenues.

"Carly, you've done remarkable things . . . but we can find someone else cheaper. We have decided to outsource your job overseas. CEOs in Japan earn a fraction of your salary."


(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: carlyfiorini; globalism; hp; outsourcing; thebusheconomy

1 posted on 02/15/2004 11:13:30 AM PST by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green
"Carly, you've done remarkable things . . . but we can find someone else cheaper. We have decided to outsource your job overseas. CEOs in Japan earn a fraction of your salary."

BUMP.

2 posted on 02/15/2004 11:23:15 AM PST by spodefly (February is Tagline History Month!)
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To: Willie Green
Great article. One of the best on the subject.
3 posted on 02/15/2004 11:24:45 AM PST by Print
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To: A. Pole
ping
4 posted on 02/15/2004 11:25:52 AM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: Willie Green
Mr Heintz makes some good points, especially about the reliance of these corporations on the economic and military strength of the USA. Too bad that neither Mr Heintz, nor apparently anyone at the SacBee knows how to spell the HP CEO's name. It's Fiorina.

Also, corporate greed does not negate the need for a serious retooling of the public education system. The achievement of US students, especially in science and math, has been trailing that of other nations for years and the gap is increasing.

5 posted on 02/15/2004 11:27:05 AM PST by DesertDreamer (I am DesertDreamer and I approved this message.)
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To: Willie Green
This Marie Antoinette-approved remark makes me wonder if HP hasn't already offshored its public relations department.

LOL, let the witch eat her own cake crumbs. And, I can see ole Madame Lafarge just waiting for her turn to grin as the ax falls on Carly.

6 posted on 02/15/2004 11:28:38 AM PST by LibertyAndJusticeForAll
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To: Willie Green
Ever notice how, when the CEO goes on vacation, they do not bring in a substitute? However, if the janitor goes on vacation, they have to find a replacement.
7 posted on 02/15/2004 11:34:06 AM PST by Blue Screen of Death (,/i)
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To: Willie Green
When in doubt, blame education. Yet wasn't it that same woeful education system that trained the talent that created our tech revolution - that made offshoring possible? Blaming the school system is simply an attempt to deflect any real discussion of the long-term consequences of offshoring.

They're running out of excuses...

Great article.

8 posted on 02/15/2004 11:46:52 AM PST by Penner
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To: Willie Green

That's NOT funny!

9 posted on 02/15/2004 11:50:35 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Willie Green
"Those better jobs should not be allowed to leave our shores until all qualified American workers are employed.

Yep those companies should not be allowed to spend their money as they see fit.

By the same token shoppers should not be allowed to spend their money where they see fit either.

The government will tell companies what services they will buy, and they will assign consumers to certain grocery stores, (to protect the grocery workers), and to make everyone happy - no one will be allowed to shop at Wal-Mart, or any regional shopping center that hurts a Mom and Pop business. Of course shopping on the net is out, and Autoworkers need help...

10 posted on 02/15/2004 12:30:19 PM PST by Mark was here (My fan club: "Go abuse some family member, as I'm sure is your practice." - Principled)
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To: sauropod
read later
11 posted on 02/15/2004 3:12:22 PM PST by sauropod (I'm Happy, You're Happy, We're ALL Happy! I'm happier than a pig in excrement. Can't you just tell?)
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To: Willie Green
"Why should American students study math and science when the companies they would work for might sell them out at the first opportunity? In other words, Fiorini and Barrett want workers smart enough to do the job, but dumb enough not to see the handwriting on the wall."

Yeah.

My kids want to study engineering. Trying to get them to be plumbers. Can't ship that out.

My sister in law works for HP. Fiorina is HATED in that company.

I can tell you in the twenty years I worked as an EE for Fortune 500 companies, I NEVER had trouble finding qualified engineers. Just had to pay them what the market commanded.

There IS no shortage. Despite the dumming down of public education there are MANY good people available. But if this keeps up there won't be for long.

This shortage is a MYTH and terribly destructive.


12 posted on 02/15/2004 4:45:09 PM PST by EEDUDE
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To: Blue Screen of Death
When a CEO goes on vacation, do you truly think they're on vacation in the same sense that other non-CEO's such as yourself (presumably) are on vacation?
13 posted on 02/15/2004 4:49:40 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Mrs Mark
Say that after YOUR job has been outsourced.
14 posted on 02/15/2004 4:50:54 PM PST by EEDUDE
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To: Willie Green
Of course, if Ms. Fiorina was to lose her job, she'd find another one, instead of whining about it on an internet forum.
15 posted on 02/15/2004 4:51:27 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Print
It might be a better article if Ms. Fiorina's name was spelled correctly. Making a fundamental spelling mistake twenty times tends to undermine an author's credibility.
16 posted on 02/15/2004 4:57:47 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: EEDUDE
My kids want to study engineering. Trying to get them to be plumbers.

You might want to spend some more time developing your motivational skills. LOL

17 posted on 02/15/2004 5:00:10 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Didn't even notice that . . . this writer better watch-out before his job is out-sourced to someone who can spell.
18 posted on 02/15/2004 5:04:41 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Willie Green
when in doubt, blame the CEO, blame W, blame capitalism, blame anything and anyone because that's a whole lot easier than dealing with it.
19 posted on 02/15/2004 5:05:09 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Sniff Sniff

I think I smell a manager of some stripe that THINKS he's immune.

You won't be happy with what you get, buddy.
20 posted on 02/15/2004 5:06:20 PM PST by EEDUDE
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To: EEDUDE
Then I'll just follow your advice and set my sights as low as possible.
21 posted on 02/15/2004 5:08:15 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: EEDUDE
My kids want to study engineering.

that would be a shame if they really loved engineering, and you pushed them into plumbing just for the money.

why don't you encourage them to study engineering, learn how to run a business, start one, employ people, administer valuable resources, and then they can decided who or what to outsource?

22 posted on 02/15/2004 5:08:15 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: EEDUDE
I think I smell a manager of some stripe that THINKS he's immune.

you might smell someone who's been there and done that.

23 posted on 02/15/2004 5:09:34 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
It might be a better article if Ms. Fiorina's name was spelled correctly. Making a fundamental spelling mistake twenty times tends to undermine an author's credibility.

True.

24 posted on 02/15/2004 6:21:55 PM PST by Print
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To: Willie Green
Perhaps it's about time we expaned the US to take in more states? Mexico, the Phillipines, the UK, Australia?
25 posted on 02/16/2004 3:01:44 AM PST by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: Willie Green

There are arguments to be made against outsourcing, but I wonder if Free Republic is the right place to bring the ones that turn on painting profit as evil, fomenting hate-the-rich class warfare, and calling for government intervention to control every corporate hiring decision.

Wouldn't this article be more at home if it was posted to DU?

Hewlett Packard was once widely known for some research they had done which showed that the single biggest factor affecting a new product's success was whether it got there first. Has Carly seen that study? Does she know what she's giving up to save a few bucks on salaries? When a product that has $20 or $30 million invested in its development falls on its butt because HP got there 6 months behind Sony, what is she going to tell the board? That she saved $5 million by outsourcing the software to India?

Anyone who is in a time-to-market business should forget all about outsourcing. You don't want to introduce communication difficulties into a project where time is money.


26 posted on 02/16/2004 3:56:22 AM PST by Nick Danger (Spotted owl tastes like chicken)
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