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What do you think??? -- ANTI-WAR GOPERS JUST SAY 'NO VOTE'
New York Post ^ | 02/16/04 | Cindy Adams

Posted on 02/16/2004 6:56:38 AM PST by paulat

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:19:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

February 16, 2004 -- HAPPY Presidents Day. A columnist is the eyes, ears and mouth of the world. Today, Presidents Day, I'm not the Mouth. I'm the Ears. I report exactly what I heard at a corralful of Republicans. Types who've Made It. Successful. Comfortable. Two homes, two cars, mostly two marriages. They weren't speaking to the economy, outsourcing of jobs, Halliburton thing, abortion, gay marriage, cloning or old boy stuff as in why no one at Enron's gone to jail. Weren't interested in Bush's National Guard war record since they recognized that as Dem political trashing.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antiwarright; bush; elections; iraq; vote
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Do you think many Republicans feel this way?
1 posted on 02/16/2004 6:56:39 AM PST by paulat
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To: paulat
What a putz. Dear old Cindy is just in there trying to be a legend in her own mind.
2 posted on 02/16/2004 6:58:49 AM PST by freekitty
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To: paulat
Not a chance, Don't get too excited, Cindy.
3 posted on 02/16/2004 6:59:41 AM PST by rhombus
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To: paulat
No, I don't think many Republicans feel this way.
4 posted on 02/16/2004 7:01:46 AM PST by Judith Anne (Send a message to the Democrat traitors--ROCKEFELLER MUST RESIGN!)
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To: paulat
They were hot only about this war. About American and other foreign lives being lost. About non Weapons of Mass Destruction hysteria slowly osmosing into the well-Saddam's-a-bad-dude-so-it's-right-we-took-him-down-anyway philosophy.

That is pure left-wing spin. Bush from Day #1 talked about several reasons for war including Iraq's violation of peace agreements, human rights violations, and Saddam's support of terrorists. Bush's aeguements haven't morphed at all.

5 posted on 02/16/2004 7:03:14 AM PST by Always Right
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To: paulat
These are just the noseless 'conservatives' who are willing to vote for socialist Democrats over some single issue or other.

6 posted on 02/16/2004 7:03:16 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: paulat
I think Cindy is trying to convince herself and her readers that John Kerry will win.
7 posted on 02/16/2004 7:03:21 AM PST by cripplecreek (you win wars by making the other dumb SOB die for his country)
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To: paulat
I'm sure there are plenty in the circles Cindy runs in (Rockefeller Republicans?).

I'd file this in the same category as the NY socialite who couldn't believe Nixon won because no one she knew voted for him. Of all the issues that Republicans can and should be irritated with Bush about, the war in Iraq rates about 20th in legitimacy. I'd lend the gossip columnists' revelation a bit more credence if she stated that her GOP friends (really, do we believe they exist?) were irate about the explosion in government spending under Bush.

But that wouldn't dovetail with her politics, would it?

8 posted on 02/16/2004 7:03:23 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: paulat
They should read this:

READ THIS

9 posted on 02/16/2004 7:03:35 AM PST by soozla (BUSH/CHENEY 2004**Send John "Effin'" Kerry back to Easter Island!!!!!)
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To: paulat
Hmm. I don't hear that here in Texas.

Borrowing a word from John FakeKennedy Kerry: "It's just f-ing Iraq. Who gives a f-ing "insert word of choice here".

10 posted on 02/16/2004 7:05:16 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Guns!)
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To: paulat
These articles are right on schedule. As the election draws closer look for many articles to model supposed conservatives who are going to not vote because the GOP is not conservative enough.

Note that these articles come from publications and reporters who care nothing for conservatism and otherwise do not cover conservative issues at all, except when they get the chance to suppress Repub voter turnout. (This is the 'Moby' method of voter turnout suppression.)

11 posted on 02/16/2004 7:06:36 AM PST by Dialup Llama
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To: Dialup Llama
You are the closest to what I thought...I was just curious.
12 posted on 02/16/2004 7:08:06 AM PST by paulat
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To: paulat
Here's one who does.
13 posted on 02/16/2004 7:08:37 AM PST by CoolGuyVic (Bush or Kerry? Guillotine or Firing Squad? Rap or Country?)
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To: paulat
"He was told: "Just don't vote."

So these Repubs are telling other Repubs - don't vote?

Good of Cindy to share 'the voice'/spread the word.

That would be the Dems best hope that Repubs just say NO and stay home.

14 posted on 02/16/2004 7:09:33 AM PST by cricket
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To: paulat
If there is no news that fits your agenda,make up some. This is a sixth grade level of make believe.
15 posted on 02/16/2004 7:09:45 AM PST by cynicom
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To: paulat
Sounds like she's a Moby operative to me.
16 posted on 02/16/2004 7:10:14 AM PST by Columbine (Bush '04 - Owens '08)
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To: paulat
Do you think many Republicans feel this way?

Hell no. They're not stupid enough to cede control of the war and this country to liberals with a death wish.

17 posted on 02/16/2004 7:10:58 AM PST by chiller (JUDGES is JOB #1)
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To: Cultural Jihad
"These are just the noseless 'conservatives' who are willing to vote for socialist Democrats over some single issue or other."

Let's see...

Massive spending, intrusive government, counterproductive war, unchecked immigration, failure to find his veto pen, etc.

Guess I'm a single-issue guy after all.

18 posted on 02/16/2004 7:13:22 AM PST by CoolGuyVic (Bush or Kerry? Guillotine or Firing Squad? Rap or Country?)
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To: paulat
ANTI-WAR GOPERS

I misread the last word and thought she was talking about a former POTUS and his supporters.

19 posted on 02/16/2004 7:16:36 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Always Right
"This is pure left-wing spin".

For sure; including the "Don't pick on me. Me, I make no comment. Me, I just report" bullitsky.

Parse, spin, lie and report and of course repeat all, as often as necessary, is their game.

Cindy scores a 'l0' here for hitting all the buttons.

20 posted on 02/16/2004 7:17:23 AM PST by cricket
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To: paulat
Democrats daydreaming again...

W'04
21 posted on 02/16/2004 7:20:54 AM PST by Liberty Valance (In Honor and memory of Pfc Cody Orr, Kerrville Texas)
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To: soozla; CoolGuyVic
The squatters would rather not. They'd rather support socialist Democrats and try to claim to be Republicans, perhaps from the Che Caucus.
22 posted on 02/16/2004 7:25:06 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Liberty Valance
OK so a dozen RINOs in NYC do not vote--hardly a trend.
23 posted on 02/16/2004 7:25:11 AM PST by babaloo
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To: paulat
bttfl
24 posted on 02/16/2004 7:25:23 AM PST by Cacique
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To: paulat
Nope. Just say "Democrat President" to a Republican and watch them vomit.
25 posted on 02/16/2004 7:30:52 AM PST by OpusatFR (Search Google for your posting name. Get a suprise!)
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To: paulat
NO! they do not feel this way. GOP peopl vote. Period. If you hear of "get out the vote", this is DNC "get the vote to stay home."

One problem that the DNC people discovered in 2002. When they had their vans going to take voters to the poll stations, they were taking people who were goint to vote for "the other guy." It was very disturbing to them.

This is the new DNC strategy, get the other voters to stay home. It is 100% BS.
26 posted on 02/16/2004 7:44:55 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Your new GIF is great! Speaks volumes!
27 posted on 02/16/2004 7:50:34 AM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04 -- Losing is not an Option!)
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To: paulat
Do you think many Republicans feel this way?

I think enough people feel that way, yes.

GWB is going to have to get each and every single vote he got last time (plus more). He already isn’t going to get them – and rightly so, IMO.

The only question that remains is how many representatives and senators go down with him (also rightly so, IMO).

At any rate, the republicans have a lot of wising up to do before they get elected to anything important again… if ever. But that’s not necessarily bad and nobody’s going to lose sleep over it.

28 posted on 02/16/2004 7:52:17 AM PST by Who dat?
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To: paulat
Do you think many Republicans feel this way?

Yes.

29 posted on 02/16/2004 8:07:16 AM PST by Maximilian
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To: Who dat?
Then you have totally ignored redistricting and the fact that those who are folish to stay home are defacto voting for a socialist.

This is just BS. They are reporting on the limited number of strange people who never vote anyways because of some misalignment of pet issues. Their non-votes never mattered in the past, they will not matter in the future.

The fact that they don't vote means whatever their pet issue, it will continue to be ignored.
30 posted on 02/16/2004 8:10:40 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: babaloo
The leftist media is trying to spin it into a trend.

This has all the credibility of the Democrats saying bush's dental records only proves his teeth were at the dentist, not the rest of him.
31 posted on 02/16/2004 8:12:05 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: paulat
Do you think many Republicans feel this way?

No.

32 posted on 02/16/2004 8:13:09 AM PST by smith288 (http://www.ejsmithweb.com/FR/JohnKerry/)
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To: paulat
Well, you have been here since 1999...do YOU think many Republicans feel this way?
33 posted on 02/16/2004 8:16:57 AM PST by Neets (Complainers change their complaints, but they never reduce the amount of time spent in complaining.~)
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To: Neets
To believe that way would require ignoring 94-2002.

It would require ignoring the chicken dems desperation.

It would require ignoring americans spilling french wine into the gutter. (litterally)

It would require ignoring americans supporting deposing a madman who put living people into paper shreaders.

It would require ignoring the greeting NASCAR people give this commander in chief. It would also require ignoring the desperate search for NASCAR volunteers for escorting x42.

It would require ignoring the plumetting ratings of CNN.

If that were not enough, it would also require ignoring how the world has new demands on the United States after 9/11.

Only if you delude yourself with ignoring those items, could you believe the negativity of "GOPERS".
34 posted on 02/16/2004 8:31:05 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: cricket
I'm just cracking up this morning watching all the journalists try to spell "NASCAR"....
35 posted on 02/16/2004 8:36:30 AM PST by paulat
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To: paulat
My absolute favorite was some moronic reporter trying to spin the cheering crowd as "undecided."


They looked and sounded very decided.
36 posted on 02/16/2004 8:39:49 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: paulat
My father is a liberal lefty. He is a college professor in the Northeast. He is also a career Air Force Officer (retired).

I asked him if he would vote for Kerry. He said he does not plan on voting at all if Keryy is the nominee. Dad was in Vietnam in 1966. He also taught at the Air Force Academy in the late 60's and we knew many a brave student who went on to serve in Vietnam. The Academy students were treated like dirt during that time period.

Kerry is NOT appreciated by the military or military families at all. Not even by many democrats in the military.

37 posted on 02/16/2004 8:43:26 AM PST by Republican Red (Karmic hugs welcomed!)
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To: paulat
Bwahahaha, what a democrat shill this Cindy is! She writes a column with a title designed to create negativism in Pubby ranks, then claims she's an unbiased journalist. The democrats are even more disgusting when they use their journo shills to manipulate the voters because it proves they arrogantly disdain the voters as dolts to be toyed with and maneuvered, manipulated and exploited. In this case, Ms Cindy is trying to turn a few Pubby votes into non-votes, in service to her demigod democRATS.
38 posted on 02/16/2004 8:45:47 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: paulat
My brother-in-law says he is not going to vote. He has always voted Republican but feels Bush is governing from the right (tell me about it) but ran as a moderate. The war thing really set him off.

The good news is that he lives in Illinois so his vote wouldn't have been counted anyway.
39 posted on 02/16/2004 8:46:24 AM PST by Voteamerica
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To: paulat
They weren't speaking to the economy, outsourcing of jobs, Halliburton thing, abortion, gay marriage, cloning or old boy stuff as in why no one at Enron's gone to jail. Weren't interested in Bush's National Guard war record since they recognized that as Dem political trashing.

They sound like Democrats or at least RINOs. A plant from the Post?

40 posted on 02/16/2004 8:53:54 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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Do you think many Republicans feel this way?

I had dinner on Sat. night with a couple of people who feel this way.

I very calmly, and I think, rationally, explained why I was voting for GW, what he had done to protect this country - my #1 issue. We talked through the ecomony, jobs, corporate scandals, etc.I hope I made some headway.

We have a problem. Time to face it, and get out there and work for Bush's re-election.
41 posted on 02/16/2004 8:56:40 AM PST by baseballmom
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To: paulat
I think he has Republican support for the war, but his ILLEGAL plan might prove to be a different story.
42 posted on 02/16/2004 8:57:06 AM PST by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: paulat
- Don't pick on me. Me, I make no comment. Me, I just report.-

I heard Michael Savage say on the radio recently people should not vote but not over the war issue. It was over the immigration issue (and something else too, can't remember). He said both parties are the same on the big issues - selling out the country, both were hopelessly corrupt and beholden to their corporate masters. "We the people" have no say or representation. The idea behind not voting was that it would show the sham of the two parties and representative democracy for what it was. If only 10% of the eligible voters participated the politicians couldn't claim pious high ground about how free and democratic we were as a nation. Or something to that effect.

- Don't pick on me. Me, I make no comment. Me, I just report.-

43 posted on 02/16/2004 8:58:02 AM PST by u-89
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To: u-89
Isn't that philosophy just like misguided Dems voting for Nader or Kucinich?

I don't see how a boycott would work....
44 posted on 02/16/2004 9:10:22 AM PST by paulat
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To: paulat
I found an article about not voting here. Some choice excerpts follow:

>Murray Rothbard once wrote that even the most brutal dictator ultimately bases his power on the opinions that are held by a majority of the population that is under his rule. After all, even dictators with large armies tend to be vastly outnumbered by the populations they rule over, and revolution is always on the dictator’s mind. That’s probably how he gained power himself in the first place – the previous dictator was, well, too dictatorial and created the conditions for his own overthrow..... Democratic regimes also base their legitimacy on their ability to claim that their rule is "the will of the people."

The aricle then lists why one of our policitcal parties is bad and how the other is worse. He follows with this:

> That’s why it is unpatriotic to vote. Being patriotic in America means being devoted to the Constitution, if not the natural rights philosophy that motivated much of it. Since neither of the major political parties has any interest whatsoever in enforcing the constitutional limitations on the state, they are all traitors to the Constitution (with one lone exception, Congressman Ron Paul). ...Anyone who supports them is also behaving in a traitorous manner. That is, anyone who votes for any of them. Voting only allows these traitors to the Constitution to proclaim that "the people have spoken" and "I am your president," or congressman, senator, governor, or whatever. Their legitimacy rests solely on their ability to make this claim...... if, in the next presidential election, a mere 10 percent of the electorate, instead of the usual 50 percent or so, voted. The unconstitutional regime in Washington would be de-legitimized.

- Don't pick on me. Me, I make no comment. Me, I just report.-

45 posted on 02/16/2004 10:03:04 AM PST by u-89
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To: PhiKapMom
These nationalist ideologues who come here to criticize President Bush are the wetbacks of FreeRepublic: Unwanted squatters at cross-purposes with the owner.
46 posted on 02/16/2004 11:49:11 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
These nationalist ideologues, if they actually do get manipulated into sitting on their duffs, will elect democrats every time. Some effective strategy, don'tcha know!
47 posted on 02/16/2004 12:17:23 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Cultural Jihad
I have to remember that one -- wetbacks of FR! Perfect!
48 posted on 02/16/2004 12:18:19 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04 -- Losing is not an Option!)
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To: paulat
Hardly!

Polls do not show anything of the kind.

The war is a democrat issue, not ours.

49 posted on 02/16/2004 12:23:17 PM PST by Cold Heat ("It is easier for an ass to succeed in that trade than any other." [Samuel Clemens, on lawyers])
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To: PhiKapMom
LOL!

I have some other descriptive words, but I cannot post them.

50 posted on 02/16/2004 12:25:40 PM PST by Cold Heat ("It is easier for an ass to succeed in that trade than any other." [Samuel Clemens, on lawyers])
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