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Morton Kondracke: Bush's 9/11 vs. Kerry's Vietnam
Naples Daily News ^ | 2.17.04 | Mort Kondrake

Posted on 02/16/2004 10:03:44 PM PST by ambrose

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Morton Kondracke: Bush's 9/11 vs. Kerry's Vietnam

By MORTON KONDRACKE, Newspaper Enterprise Association
February 17, 2004

pictureBoth Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., and President Bush have had a searing life experience. For Kerry, it was the disaster of Vietnam. For Bush, Sept. 11, 2001. It makes all the difference in their foreign policy views.

While a valiant, decorated combatant, Kerry entered public life condemning the Vietnam War, and his career-long record is one of opposition to uses of American force and the weapons systems needed to carry them out.

Bush, as he explained once again on NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday, has been "a war president" ever since terrorists attacked the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on his watch.

"Every threat had to be reanalyzed," he said, referring to Iraq and Saddam Hussein. "Every potential had to be judged in the context of this war on terrorism. ... We looked at the intelligence and we remembered that he had used weapons, which meant he had weapons. He was a dangerous man in a dangerous part of the world."

The evidence suggests that Bush may feel some responsibility, even guilt, for not doing enough to counter Al Qaeda before Sept. 11, 2001. Certainly, terrorism had no great priority. There was no "war" against it.

Despite Bush's claim to Tim Russert that he is fully cooperating with the commission investigating Sept. 11, the panel's members are so frustrated with White House roadblocks that they have considered issuing subpoenas. This suggests that Bush is deeply embarrassed at what they might find.

But once Sept. 11 happened, Bush's whole presidency was transformed. He began to "worst case" world threats. Every intelligence service in the world believed that Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. Former President Bill Clinton believed it. Even Kerry believed it.

And, Bush assumed it was only a matter of time before Hussein would use his WMD again, possibly by handing weapons off to terrorists. So, the president decided that Hussein had to be toppled.

To sell the country on that course, it now appears, he and his aides "cherry-picked" and exaggerated the intelligence, playing up the Iraqi threat and ignoring contrary claims.

Democrats and the anti-war media now are making much of a Defense Intelligence Agency warning that there was "no reliable information whether Iraq is producing and stockpiling chemical weapons." But they are cherry-picking, too. The abundance of the evidence was that a WMD arsenal existed.

And so, Bush took the country to war, believing it was "a war of necessity." Was it the right course? Ultimately, the answer depends upon whether the United States can turn Iraq into a stable, semi-democratic country, or whether it cascades into civil war and chaos.

The chances are, Americans will not know for sure before the election whether Bush's risky adventure will end well or badly. They'll have to choose between a "war president" and an "anti-war" challenger.

There seems little question that, had Kerry's policy views prevailed, Hussein would still be in power — in fact, he would have scored a strategic defeat over the United States and might have resumed producing WMD.

While Kerry voted to authorize Bush to go to war after Kerry delivered a speech brimming with assertions that Iraq had WMD and represented "a grave threat," the Senator also said, "I will not support a unilateral U.S. war ... unless the threat is imminent and the multilateral effort [to disarm Iraq] has not proven possible under any circumstances."

Referring to his Vietnam experience, Kerry told the Senate on Oct. 9, 2002, that "I know what it means to fight in a war where [public] consent is lost, where allies are in short supply, where conditions are hostile and the mission is ill-defined."

Under the scenario likely to have unfolded under Kerry policy, United Nations inspectors, of course, would never have found WMD in Iraq. France, Germany and other countries would never have agreed to the use of force. Bush would have had to pull back 100,000 troops massed on Iraq's border.

Thereafter, France and Russia would have resumed efforts to lift sanctions on Iraq. Bush would have lost the confrontation. And Hussein would have won. Is this the right course in the age of terrorism?

It may be difficult for voters to know for sure right now, but there seems little question that Kerry's Vietnam-based experience has led him to wrong choices in the past.

He voted against the first Persian Gulf War in 1991 even though Iraq had invaded a neighbor, the U.N. Security Council had voted to force a withdrawal and Bush's father had formed a multinational alliance to carry it out.

In the 1980s, Kerry backed the nuclear freeze movement, which would have permitted the Soviet Union to retain missile dominance in Europe.

In 1984, Kerry declared in a re-election campaign statement that "Americans feel more threatened by the prospect of war, not less so" after the Reagan administration's defense buildup.

He recommended cutting $45 billion to $53 billion from the defense budget and vowed to "cancel" the MX missile, the B-1 bomber, the Tomahawk cruise missile, the Apache helicopter, the Patriot missile and four fighter aircraft programs.

So, does America choose a president this year who can't get over Vietnam? Or one who can't get over Sept. 11? Domestic choices and character choices have to be made, too, but surely more voters now share Bush's trauma than Kerry's.

Morton Kondracke is executive editor of Roll Call, the newspaper of Capitol Hill.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: ambrose
"The evidence suggests that Bush may feel some responsibility, even guilt, for not doing enough to counter Al Qaeda before Sept. 11, 2001. Certainly, terrorism had no great priority. There was no "war" against it."

While in general I agree with this article, this particular paragraph is replete with Mort's nasty side. Mort thinks that the President has guilt about Sept 11? Did Mort forget that by that point in time the President had barely had time to get his administration together and effectively working due to the RATS and the election aftermath of 2000? It's not like it was a "normal transition" of power earlier that year. And no Mort, there was no "war on terror" prior to September 11, 2001 because the terrorists had not taken over 3 civilian airliners and crashed them into high rise buildings on our sovereign soil prior to that time.

21 posted on 02/16/2004 11:10:29 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: kayak
Thanks for the ping, my friend
22 posted on 02/16/2004 11:11:01 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: PISANO
Sorry .. I didn't mean to imply that I thought Bush was trying to hide anything .. I don't thing he is. My contention is that Bush is trying to protect the office of the presidency, not himself or Clinton.
23 posted on 02/17/2004 12:41:07 AM PST by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: kayak
Referring to his Vietnam experience, Kerry told the Senate on Oct. 9, 2002, that "I know what it means to fight in a war where [public] consent is lost, where allies are in short supply, where conditions are hostile and the mission is ill-defined."

So, why is Kerry trying to undermine public confidence, alienate allies, deny the troops the money they need to operate, and re-define the mission?

24 posted on 02/17/2004 2:37:53 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: ambrose
BTTT
25 posted on 02/17/2004 4:34:24 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: ambrose
And so, Bush took the country to war, believing it was "a war of necessity." Was it the right course? Ultimately, the answer depends upon whether the United States can turn Iraq into a stable, semi-democratic country, or whether it cascades into civil war and chaos.

No, the answer depends on whether post-Saddam Iraq, even if cascaded into civil war and chaos, is a less of a threat to the U.S. and the rest of the world than the pre-post-Saddam Iraq.
26 posted on 02/17/2004 4:38:30 AM PST by aruanan
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To: A Citizen Reporter
While what you say is true,I believe what Mort says is as well.W seems a very human,compassionate fellow.I'm certain he feels some guilt about 9/11.
27 posted on 02/17/2004 4:43:57 AM PST by John W
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To: kayak
I agree with the 'zingers'........he says most of them on Special Report ('cherry picked intelligence'), but overall Mort DOES get it.

I can still hear him saying after algor's latest rant, "Thank GOD that man is not our President! Thank GOD!"

He gets it.

28 posted on 02/17/2004 6:27:56 AM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: CyberAnt
Bush is trying to protect the office of the presidency, not himself or Clinton.

I agree, Cyber. He's done it in the past, and I believe that's what he's doing now.

He has GREAT respect for the office of the Presidency.

29 posted on 02/17/2004 6:30:24 AM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: rebel_yell2
You ask, "what we'd be stuck with?"

The article says Kerry wanted to cancel: "the MX missile, the B-1 bomber, the Tomahawk cruise missile, the Apache helicopter, the Patriot missile and four fighter aircraft programs."

- The MX missile had a long and troubled gestation; it was battled at every turn by the Soviets and by those in Congress who identified with and wanted to support them. If it had not been deployed, our only land based missiles would be obsolete and vulnerable 1960s era Minuteman III missiles. That would have made us totally dependent on submarines and manned bombers. However, Kerry and his friends were successful enough that we have had to keep 500 of the aging Minuteman rockets on duty -- even though they can easily be neutralized by an enemy first strike (even a conventional one) thanks to improved weapons accuracy.
http://www.strategic-air-command.com/missiles/Peacekeeper/Peacekeeper_Missile_History.htm
http://www.strategic-air-command.com/missiles/Minuteman/Minuteman_Missile_History.htm

The B-1 (and B-2, which Kerry also opposed) was a strategic bomber designed to penetrate enemy air defenses. It has proven adaptable to the GWOT. Cancellation of the B-1, desired by the Soviets, and Kerry, would have required us to retain more B-52s in service, as well as the troublesome and high-maintenance F-111F and FB-111. This would translate directly into more crew deaths (in the 111s) and more deaths by supported ground troops (because the 111 could carry only a modest bombload, and the 52 can't operate while enemy air defences are still live).

The Tomahawk cruise missile was a revolutionary weapon which promised the accuracy of air-delivered weapons without risking human life. Had the Tomahawk been cancelled, the thousands of strikes it has made in the Gulf wars and Balkans would have had to be delivered by aircraft, putting human crews at risk, and certainly losing a percentage of them.

The Apache helicopter (AH-64A and AH-64D Longbow) has an unusual record: it is the most shot-down aircraft of the present war, which indicates how routinely Apache pilots fly into harm's way. Despite that, the crewmembers of all those shot-down helicopters have survived, which indicates how well it was designed and built. In two cases complete Apache units have lost functionally all their aircraft to enemy defences without one human suffering a wound. Kerry would have the Army still flying the Bell AH-1 HueyCobra, built as a stopgap in the 1960s and with nothing like this record for crew preservation (indeed, it was rare for HueyCobra crewmen to survive a shootdown). This would mean going without helicopter gunships entirely, because in the high altitudes and hot weather of Afghanistan and Iraq, the single-engine Huey can't take off armed.

This is apart from the damage to personnel, operations and maintenance that "$45 billion to $53 billion [cut] from the defense budget" would have done.

As far as the four fighter aircraft programs, without hearing them named I can't really cite specifics, and I don't care to suffer through miles of Kerry "I hate the evil warmongering military" tape to dredge them up. But the result would be we'd still be flying the Vietnam era F-4, F-111, A-6 and A-7. While those machines were state of the art thirty or forty years ago, the fact that primitive Vietnam was able to shoot down hundreds of these planes, in many cases killing or capturing (which might have also been a death sentence) the crews, tells us that they are not what we need for 21st Century warfare.

It's fair to say that Kerry was careless with the lives of our soldiers and airmen. It's fair to say that he has broken faith with them, ever since his 1970 swing to the enemy side on Vietnam.

He is also on record as wanting to stop "substantially all activity of the CIA." Oh, that's a real stroke of genius. I know a lot of people think that the CIA is as wrong as two boys at the wedding altar, but remember, you only hear about the screwups. That's the nature of secret work.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F
30 posted on 02/17/2004 7:28:21 AM PST by Criminal Number 18F
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To: ambrose
He recommended cutting $45 billion to $53 billion from the defense budget and vowed to "cancel" the MX missile, the B-1 bomber, the Tomahawk cruise missile, the Apache helicopter, the Patriot missile and four fighter aircraft programs.

Can anyone cite references to this statement? I've also heard that he opposed the Abrams and the Bradley. If we could find references, that would prove that had Kerry prevailed, we would have fought Desert Stoprm, Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq with bows and arrows.

31 posted on 02/17/2004 7:37:02 AM PST by jackbill
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To: ohioWfan
Plus, the President has legal counsel, and I'm sure he consults with his counsel about what he has to reveal and what he doesn't.

The dems confuse the issue by trying to paint this as a "cowboy" refusal to submit to the bidding of Congress or a committee. Pathetic!

I guess the dems have not figured out that bashing Bush doesn't go over very good, what with Kerry losing 8 pts in 72 hours.
32 posted on 02/17/2004 4:20:24 PM PST by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: CyberAnt
May the bashing continue!

Kerry is revealing more and more of his foolishness every time he opens his mouth.....

33 posted on 02/17/2004 5:04:13 PM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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