Yes it did, had he come her legally he likely would not have been working for an outfit hiring illegals.
Irrelevant. Plenty of U.S. born persons have been injured in construction accidents.
What happened is his responsibility alone.
No, it simply is not, no matter how many time you want to say it. He and the subcontractor had an agreement - he worked, and in turn, was compensated. I highly doubt part of their agreement was "If you get hurt, tough luck". Aperson does not lose natural and human rights because they are in some geographic area "illegally". He still has the right not to be injured through the negligence of another. This isn't like some thug breaking into your house, cutting himself on your broken window, and demanding you compensate him. Not even close. The sub-contractor is 100% reposnisible for the injuries, unless the injured caused it himself(which isn't alleged in the story). His "legal" statuse does not remove liability from a negligent party.
Come here illegally and get hurt, tough. Cry to mother mexico.
That's a warped sense of repsonsibility you have there. So, are you telling me, that if I find a Mexican who just crossed the border, I have the legal right under the laws of this country, and the moral right, to beat him, rob him, rape him and enslave him? I mean, that is essentially what you are saying - the person has no rights and its "tough". Please clarify if that is not your belief.
It's not irrelevant, he was working for someone who hires illegals, the short cuts that are associated with hiring carry over to safety.
He chose to come here illegally and he chose to work for an outfit that hires illegals. He made choices, bad ones that cost him the use of his limbs. Tough. Had he come here legally he could have gotten a real job with benefits etc. and would have been able to report any unsafe working conditions without fear. His problem not mine.
As for your last part I'm of the opinion that illegals should be shot as they are trying to cross the border, in other words I have no tolerance.
Nice drama though, I never said those things nor implied them but I see you like to make great leaps of assumption.
The only thing the builder should be responsible for is paying the penalty for having an illegal work on the job site. Other than that we should dump this guy and his family on the other side of the border immediately.
posted on 02/17/2004 9:49:01 AM PST
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I saw no such assumptions of the sort you enumerated from Bikers. Civilly, many, many countries have a legal assumption that if you are Legally in a host country and not a citizen of that country that any act which you are involved in that costs a citizen of that country any harm (monetary or physical)whether or not it was your fault, you will be held liable for merely being present in that country. In this case, the man is illegal, thereby nullifying any responsibility to him. Dump him in the mesquite.
posted on 02/17/2004 11:34:38 AM PST
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