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Getting rid of Spybots
self ^ | 17 feb 04 | self

Posted on 02/17/2004 1:16:37 PM PST by OldCorps

I've got this evil spybot, undertonenet.com on my computer. Neither spybot search and destroy or lavasoft adaware removes it. I run them regularly. I suspect it comes from the drudgereport, fwiw.


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KEYWORDS: adaware; help; spybot; undertone
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anyone have an idea of how to get rid of this spyware?
1 posted on 02/17/2004 1:16:37 PM PST by OldCorps
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To: OldCorps
What makes you think you've "got" something?

If a small separate window pops up when you visit Drudge, that's not necessarily spyware. Many Websites are set to pop you up an auxiliary ad window when you visit the main site.
2 posted on 02/17/2004 1:18:26 PM PST by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: OldCorps
How do you know you have it? What detected it can usually remove it.
3 posted on 02/17/2004 1:21:36 PM PST by snooker
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To: OldCorps
...try running regedit from start/run menu (ok, i'm assuming your o/s is microsoft) and click edit/find and type undertonenet in the search box. if a reference to undertonenet is found, click delete and continue searching until you've found/deleted them all. good luck!...
4 posted on 02/17/2004 1:24:53 PM PST by cweese
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To: OldCorps
I use a 2000 PC and when a spyware ad keeps coming up and/or changing my homepage I copy the URL, go to my browser (ie6.0) tools button, internet security, privacy tab, edit button for web sites and paste the offending URL into the block catagory, seems to have worked so far for me. Good luck.
5 posted on 02/17/2004 1:25:27 PM PST by highnoon (Revenge is a dish best served cold.)
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To: OldCorps
I have had good success with this site

http://www.pestscan.com/Scan.asp

But you have to know what you're doing to remove them without buying the product (although that info is out on the web if you do a little digging)
6 posted on 02/17/2004 1:25:31 PM PST by babyface00
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To: OldCorps
Goto google and put in "undertow.com" , this goes to websites which tell you how to remove it.
7 posted on 02/17/2004 1:26:48 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (I may grow old but I will never grow up:) 64 going on 19)
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To: OldCorps
Do a Google search on 'Spybot' (search and destroy).
8 posted on 02/17/2004 1:27:36 PM PST by ECM
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To: OldCorps
Do you have a pop-up blocker?

The one that comes with the Yahoo taskbar seems to work OK for me.

I used to run Avant browser which also blocked them nicely, until Gates got sneaky and slipped in a Windows Update that caused it to crash.

Now I am back on IE and hating it. Tried Mozilla, but don't like it much.
9 posted on 02/17/2004 1:28:48 PM PST by Ronin (When the fox gnaws -- Smile!!!)
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To: OldCorps
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html
10 posted on 02/17/2004 1:28:55 PM PST by js1138
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To: OldCorps
I've spent the better part of 8 hours trying to remove all the spyware, adware, and the like off a friend's computer. His daughter somehow loaded the computer with so much spyware, before I got to it the windows Start button wouldn't even work. To even interact with windows at all, I had to load the task manager and kill a bunch of processes I didn't recognize. I was able to find at least three spybots, several ads and several viruses. The worst was one called Zesty Find, which is a hijacking program. I would type in www.foxnews.com or any url and every 2nd to third time my browser would be hijacked and either open up 5 windows or close all my browsers. It was horrible. Luckily I found this site...

Computer Cops

I didn't actually need to do this myself, but they have a forum. If you run this program...

hijackthis

You can post the log and they help you clean up your system. I still may have to do this on my friend's computer, but as of now he's fine again.

Good luck...
11 posted on 02/17/2004 1:30:45 PM PST by the_One_Neo
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To: cweese
Recently I dealt with a nasty bot on a friend's machine. This thing would automatically regenerate the registry entries every time I deleted them, and made it impossible to delete the .dll file that was generating the entries and popups. Finally had to reboot into Safe mode to delete the little bugger and clear the registry.
12 posted on 02/17/2004 1:31:41 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: the_One_Neo
This is worthy of a bump and a keeper.
13 posted on 02/17/2004 1:32:16 PM PST by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: Johnny Gage
Bump for future reference.
14 posted on 02/17/2004 1:37:21 PM PST by Johnny Gage (God Bless our Firefighters, our Police, our EMS responders, and most of all, our Veterans)
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To: knarf
I agree. Bump & Keep.
15 posted on 02/17/2004 1:37:30 PM PST by tall_tex
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To: OldCorps
Do a Google search on "Peper Virus" this is the nasty type of problem I was referring too. It requires a lot of manual work to resolve in addition to running Spy Bot et al.
16 posted on 02/17/2004 1:38:16 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
Peper Trojan

Overview
Peper Trojan, also called Troj/Peper-A, Trojan.Peper.A and SandBoxer, downloads files to the user's computer, possibly adware which will open pop-up windows.

Some state that the trojan uses random filenames and registry entries, but it seems to be pseudo random (?). Extremely hard to detect, Bazooka will try, but will most likely fail to detect it.

A clear sign of infection is a 14 character long registry value starting with a number, located in 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SOFTWARE \ Microsoft \ Windows \ CurrentVersion \ Run'. Another indication of infection is random named processes listed in the Task Manager's process list.

I have not been able to find out who developed the trojan or how it gets on the end-user's systems. Please let me know if you know more about the Peper Trojan.

Classification
Trojan Horse

Files
Amh4V.exe, FmrCj.exe, JvfMa7R.exe, SjrZsY.exe, Iei1NKe7.exe, CpaFG.exe, DozMu4.exe, Cio9f.exe, Ryf9m24V.exe, Idk277g.exe, Oval73H.exe, Yfk8.exe, LgnJ8V3.exe, YmxB.exe, MtyJ62.exe, Szep85ln.exe, XioVQ8s0.exe, Corx5Ux.exe, IpwoDw.exe, Xej7.exe, Kvw1.exe, FqbPw5.exe, HqoX.exe, Cjo9f.exe, NuaK63H.exe, Fdjd3o.exe, AozDF.exe
17 posted on 02/17/2004 1:40:52 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
bmp
18 posted on 02/17/2004 1:43:34 PM PST by mlbford2
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To: cweese; OldCorps
Be very careful plunking around in the registry if you don't know exactly what you're doing. Delete the wrong thing and create a nightmare.

MM
19 posted on 02/17/2004 1:45:23 PM PST by MississippiMan
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To: Ronin
Try FireFox (also from Mozilla) - http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/
20 posted on 02/17/2004 1:45:24 PM PST by RippleFire
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To: OldCorps
bump
21 posted on 02/17/2004 1:48:22 PM PST by JmyBryan
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To: Ronin
Try Opera. I like it better than all the usual suspects and use it as my default browser.
22 posted on 02/17/2004 1:48:40 PM PST by Still Thinking
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To: OldCorps
I have Spybot SnD, but it doesn't get everything. What's worse, some people at CNET claim its spyware itself, and/or gets rid of innocent files that cause Windows to be corrupted, and you can't uninstall it easily.

In any case, I have had bad problems with spyware that are only marginally under control. I can't access Google, most popular webseach sites also don't work, as well as certain commercial sites. Spybot either can't get rid of, or did get rid of, whatever caused this but the damage is done. I have scanned for viruses and can't find any.

If anyone has advice on how to fix my web browsing, I'd appreciate it.

23 posted on 02/17/2004 1:49:53 PM PST by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: greenthumb
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24 posted on 02/17/2004 1:53:24 PM PST by greenthumb
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To: OldCorps
I had one and couldn't remove the sucker no matter what (I mistakenly clicked "yes" on one of those "do you want to install . . ." pop ups). I opted for the nuclear option eventually - Format C:.
25 posted on 02/17/2004 1:54:53 PM PST by Catphish
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To: highnoon
I had the samething happen. Everytime I restart the computer, the home page would change.
26 posted on 02/17/2004 1:56:18 PM PST by dc27
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To: OldCorps
Try removing it from Safe Mode, when Windows disables most of the drivers and other operating tasks that usually load in normal mode.

To get to Safe Mode, reboot your computer. After the bios loads and you hear the built-in speaker beep, press the F8 key until a boot menu appears. One of the options should be to boot to Safe Mode. You might have better luck removing spyware from there.

-PJ

27 posted on 02/17/2004 2:00:24 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: OldCorps
I suspect it comes from the drudgereport, fwiw.

I made the drudge report my homepage for this test.

I then got off the Internet.

I ran my ad aware and cleaned out all the spy -ware

objects. I then went back on the internet and drudge came up on the screen.

I then re-ran the ad aware and it picked up 2 spy-ware objects from just looking at drudge's website first page.

I don't know what these objects are just listed as Data Miners. - tom

28 posted on 02/17/2004 2:01:09 PM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb republicans. - Capt. Tom)
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To: the_One_Neo
For an added measure of protection, do a Google for a program called CW Shredder. Works great at deleting browser hijackers.
29 posted on 02/17/2004 2:01:33 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (It's not over till the intern sings)
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To: OldCorps
I ran SPybot when I had a hardline to my DSL. Then when I got a wireless router, I ran spybot and couldn't get my wireless hooked up at all. Had to format the hardrive and install XP. I had w2k.
30 posted on 02/17/2004 2:02:01 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules (Daddy needs a Hummer! The H2 will do!)
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To: Still Thinking
Thanks.

I just downloaded Opera and it looks pretty good. I am going to have to go through and reload all my bookmarks to use it effectively, though.

No time to play with it now, however. Have to get to work.

31 posted on 02/17/2004 2:04:58 PM PST by Ronin (When the fox gnaws -- Smile!!!)
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To: RippleFire
Agreed, great browser. I use it 100% of the time, other than when I need to test something in IE for employees. I've used it since it was Phoenix and I think I started at 0.3 version.
32 posted on 02/17/2004 2:05:39 PM PST by the_One_Neo
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To: US_MilitaryRules
Bump
33 posted on 02/17/2004 2:05:40 PM PST by boris (The deadliest Weapon of Mass Destruction in History is a Leftist With a Word Processor)
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To: reagan_fanatic
Funny you mention that. The main site you download that program from was down every day I was over at their house. I was so angry. Finally I googled for CWShredder download and found it on a denmark site. Luckily it was the english version. I do have it, however, I was able to get his computer pretty clean without it. Thanks.
34 posted on 02/17/2004 2:07:25 PM PST by the_One_Neo
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To: OldCorps
I second the suggestion of Mozilla or FireFox - they are excellent browsers AND let you block popups from ever being popped up.
35 posted on 02/17/2004 2:07:50 PM PST by ikka
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation
Take what you read at Cnet and ZDnet with a grain of salt. There's a lot of kids around there, Gates shills ("Tim Taylor") and spammers and spyware writers who infiltrate the place to make certain programs and their programmers look worse than they are.

I favor these two places for computer advice:

http://discussions.virtualdr.com/

http://www.cybertechhelp.com/forums/index.php?s=
36 posted on 02/17/2004 2:08:05 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (Gut and raze the NEA! )
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To: OldCorps
I use PestPatrol
37 posted on 02/17/2004 2:11:16 PM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: the_One_Neo
They've been under attack for several days now:

http://discussions.virtualdr.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=157133
38 posted on 02/17/2004 2:11:22 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (Gut and raze the NEA! )
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To: scripter
Any suggestions?
39 posted on 02/17/2004 2:13:55 PM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation
Do a search/find, whatever version of windows you happen to be running, make sure you are online and double-click the file named ie6setup.exe which will force a re-install of IE6. Initially it'll say that IE6 is already installed. You can click in a little circle that says something like "Re-install all" or something similar.

Do a search/find for LMHOSTS without an extension. Use Notepad to Open it. Delete the entries for the websites you want to visit if they are present.

If neither of those suggestions above work then look for another post by me in a few minutes.
40 posted on 02/17/2004 2:18:37 PM PST by El Gran Salseron (It translates as the Great, Big Dancer, nothing more. :-))
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To: Ronin
You might want to look at MYIE2. It has a lot of neat features and works off the basic IE engine.
41 posted on 02/17/2004 2:20:55 PM PST by wildbill
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation
With regard to your browser probs look for "Hijack This" in the below:

All of the below listed software is, as of this writing, freeware. Vendors who do have “Pro” versions of their software have the tendency to try to hide the link to the freeware version in the hopes that you'll click on the "Pro" versions. Make sure you get the freeware versions, which are adequate, unless of course, you want to pay for the "Pro" versions.

http://www.lavasoft.de or http://www.lavasoftusa.com to download/install/update then run the freeware program named Ad-Aware and rid your system of spyware. You'll have to update and run it occasionally but if Spyware Blaster, ( second item down, ) does its job then Adaware may not find anything new to delete.

http://www.enigmasoftwaregroup.com/jump7.shtml
to download/install/update and run. It is SpyBot Search and Destroy which is similar to Ad-Aware. You’ll have to update and run this program occasionally if Spyware Blaster doesn’t do its job.

http://www.spywareinfo.com/articles/hijacked/ scroll down to the Spyware Blaster link, ( that is freeware, )/download/install and update it then run it to stop spyware from getting on your machine before the fact. You'll have to update and run it occasionally.

http://www.panicware.com for the freeware version of Pop-Up Stopper/download/install/tell it to start with windows.

http://www.grisoft.com for the freeware version of AVG anti-virus software/download/install/update and run a scan. You'll have to update and run it occasionally.

http://www.zonelabs.com for the freeware version of ZoneAlarm which is a software firewall. It will stop a lot of the intrusions into your system.

http://freedownloadscenter.com/Utilities/Access_Control_Utilities/Empty_Temp_Folders.html has a program named EmpTemp 2.8.1 which, when configured properly, will delete all unnecessary files and make your computer more secure by deleting your internet, history, cookies, and temp files.

If you have Microsoft.NET framework installed you should go to http://www.kalavath.co.uk to download and install then configure Ki-Washer. It has an additional feature that EmpTemp does not have in that it also deletes the *.dat files, ( which can still burn you even if the temporary internet files have been removed, ) in the Temporary Internet Files folders . It also has the added advantage of being able to “Keep” those files that are a necessity. However, the .NET framework is an absolute must or the program will not install. The .NET framework can be found at the Windows Update Site, which is here:

http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp

As an alternative to Ki-Washer you can go to the following site to download, unzip and install Spider which will let you delete index.dat files so that Ki-Washer is not needed but in this case EmpTemp would still be required:

http://www.fsm.nl/ward/

Hijack This is a program that will help you to create a log of what is happening with your system and help you to analyze possible intrusions into your computer or having your browser homepage being hijacked to some other site. Download, unzip, install then run Hijack This by clicking on the Hijack This button from the following site:

http://mjc1.com/mirror/hjt/

If you are concerned about spam email then you can go to the following link, scroll down to Mail Washer and click the Download link to download then install Mail Washer which is a program designed to let you check the email on your mail server before it ever downloads to your computer. You can then delete the email on the server before it gets to your computer.

If you are running WinXP then you may want to consider disabling Windows Messenger Service, ( not to be confused with MSN Messenger Service, ) if you are not on a corporate network whereby the dreaded system administrator sends messages to work stations using Windows Messenger then it can be disabled as follows:

Right-click My Computer/click on Manage/in the right-hand pane click the plus sign, ( +, ) in front of Services and Applications/click Services/look in the right-hand pane and scroll down, if necessary and find “Messenger”/right-click it/click on Properties/click the little down arrow to the right of the text box and click on Disable/click Apply/click the Stop button/Click Apply again, if necessary/click OK/at some point you may get a message telling you that you have to reboot/If you have already clicked on the Stop button then there is no need to reboot.

One or more of the above applications may give to you an error message that MSCOMCTL.OCX is missing. You can go to the following site to download either the zipped version or the unzipped version:

http://www.glrecordings.com/superyahtzee/mscomctl.html

One or more of the above programs, upon attempting to install it, may give to you an error message that you are missing the Visual Basic Runtime Version 6.0 files. The Visual Basic 6.0 install file can be downloaded here, on the link named VBRUN60.EXE:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q192/4/61.ASP&NoWebContent=1

All of the above software has Help and/or Tour and Tutorial files that will assist you in learning how to operate and configure the programs.

Computer security is a major concern and you should be diligent in keeping the above programs installed, updated, run and scan your computer using the appropriate programs, where necessary, on a regular basis.

On a somewhat non-related issue you may want to go to the following site to download then install and configure the freeware program named framxpro.zip which will optimize your computer system memory:

http://sac-ftp.gratex.sk/utilmisc23.html

You’ll need Winzip, which is a “shareware” program that can be used on a “trial” basis, to unzip the zipfile which can be found at the following site:

http://www.winzip.com
One other note about spam and/or sites that would sell or share your personal information with other spammers:

Sometimes when visiting a site you are asked to “sign up.” They ask for your name, email address, home address, home phone number and similar information. Never, EVER fill out these forms with accurate information unless it is a site that you know can be trusted. For your name, misspell it. For your street address, misspell the street name or use the wrong address. For your telephone number, invent one.

( While it is a shame that I have to suggest doing things that are less than honorable, I feel that in this day and age of the internet that one has to “fight fire with fire.” )

Now, as for your email address the following is what I do and recommend to others to do:

Create a Yahoo email account. Do NOT use the same prefix as your valid ISP email address. Now, whenever you visit a site that says you have to “sign up,” then you can use the Yahoo account email address. Also, on many sites where you have to “sign up” there are usually little check boxes that are checked by default. Some sites try to hide these check boxes just as you would see “fine print” on some contracts. Sometimes there is more than one check box. One check box might indicate that “I want to receive updates from you.” The other might say, “Yes, it is OK for you to share my information with partner companies.” On those sites that have only one check box there is usually a double statement such as, “I want to receive updates and important information from you and I also want to receive information from partner companies.” Uncheck those boxes unless you want to receive the information. ( By keeping these boxes checked then you are, in essence, agreeing to receive spam and have no recourse…..you asked for “it” and they are going to see that you get “it.” ) In this way you won’t start getting spam on your “real” ISP email address. ( Note: The Yahoo account has to be checked less than every thirty days or it is deactivated. Also, if the inbox of the Yahoo account fills up it is deactivated. ) Therefore, you’ll have to check the account regularly to keep it active. However, it is a small price to pay to keep your valid email address clean of spam. Yahoo’s email program has a built-in spam filter and it puts all suspect email in the “Bulk” email folder. Don’t give out your Yahoo account to any of your known good contacts. In this way you know that any email you do receive is unwanted email and all you have to do is to delete all of it without even looking at it.

If you want to have an alternate internet email address that can be used in the event that you do not have access to your ISP account from a remote computer and that can be given to your known good contacts then create a Hotmail email account.

Most ISPs will allow you to have more than one email account. If push comes to shove you can always create a bogus email address on your ISP account that you never intend to check. You can also use that email address at sites where you have to “sign up.”

Don’t EVER store credit card numbers on your computer. Hackers can find them. Don’t EVER give random sites your credit card numbers unless you explicitly trust those sites. You can give credit card numbers at the sites of your credit cards or if the site address begins with “https://” as opposed to http://. The “s” denotes a Secure website.

Don’t EVER enable “File Sharing” on your computer unless you are on a network and simply have to share files.

To test the security/vulnerability of your computer you can go to the following site and click on Shields Up to have it try to access your computer then give to you a comprehensive list of vulnerabilities. Then click on Probe My Ports so that it can individually test common ports on your computer for vulnerability. There are also suggestions for any vulnerability that may be found as to what you have to do to increase your computer’s security:

http://www.grc.com

There are also several security related freeware programs at the above site so it may behoove you to read about some of the programs available.

You can also find literally thousands of freeware programs at the following sites if you click on the Freeware link at the site. You may want to “experiment” with the various programs available at those sites if you want to find programs that you like better than the ones that I have suggested above:

http://www.webattack.com/freeware/freeware.html

http://www.winsite.com/free/freeutil/

At the webattack site the freeware programs are arranged by category.

At the winsite site you’ll have to do a little bit more reading.

If you want a good search engine that I think surpasses Google then go to the following site to download and install the freeware version of Copernic Agent:

http://www.copernic.com

It has a feature that will let you search for “Exact Phrase” which Google lacks. I find that feature to be most useful. Copernic searches many of the major search engines simultaneously.

Finally, KEEP YOUR WINDOWS CRITICAL UPDATES UP TO DATE! KEEP ALL OTHER WINDOWS UPDATES CURRENT! KEEP ALL OF YOUR OTHER SECURITY AND ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE UP TO DATE! IF YOU ARE RUNNING WINXP KEEP THE BUILT-IN FIREWALL ENABLED!

I hope this helps you.
42 posted on 02/17/2004 2:21:08 PM PST by El Gran Salseron (It translates as the Great, Big Dancer, nothing more. :-))
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To: OldCorps
bookmark.

By the way, I find that if I delete all except the FR cookie, it helps keep the hijackers and verminware to a minimum.

43 posted on 02/17/2004 2:33:17 PM PST by IronJack
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save for later
44 posted on 02/17/2004 2:35:36 PM PST by Lurking in Kansas (No tagline here... move along)
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To: OldCorps
bumping so I can try and figure out what the heck is happening later
45 posted on 02/17/2004 2:37:18 PM PST by ibbryn (this tag intentionally left blank)
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To: OldCorps
anyone have an idea of how to get rid of this spyware?

Yes. You will need to visit 20 web sites, read about 100 pages of technical gobbledegook, learn how to run regedit, then stand on one foot and wave a dead chicken over the keyboard during the next full moon. This is normal for Windows.

46 posted on 02/17/2004 2:37:41 PM PST by HAL9000
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To: Pagey
Hmmm, Run S+D later today BUMP
47 posted on 02/17/2004 2:38:56 PM PST by Pagey (Hillary Rotten is a Smug and Holier- than- Thou Socialist)
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bunp
48 posted on 02/17/2004 2:40:03 PM PST by Sally'sConcerns (It's painless to be a monthly donor!)
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To: Johnny Gage
same here
49 posted on 02/17/2004 2:40:07 PM PST by american spirit (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION = NATIONAL SUICIDE)
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Mark for future reading.
50 posted on 02/17/2004 2:40:47 PM PST by KarlInOhio (The idea of five Supreme Court justices appointed by President Kerry chills me to the bone.)
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