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Request for DC Family Vacation Advice

Posted on 02/18/2004 5:44:41 AM PST by Prairie Pubbie

Freeper Advice needed for DC family vacation


TOPICS: US: District of Columbia; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: dc; tourism; travel; vacation
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Our Freeper family is planning a family vacation ("kids" are 20 and 17) in May or June to DC. It will be our first visit there to see our national monuments! We're planning to stay 8 nights and leaning toward the Alexandria area. We would like the excellent, trustworthy help and advice of Freepers regarding ideas about where to stay (economical but nice & safe area), which airport to use, hints about the public transit system (we don't plan to rent a car), etc. Any advice or thoughts and experiences (must do's,things to avoid, great places to eat, etc.) would be greatly appreciated! We definitely won't be in Kansas anymore! This is the first thread I've ever started, so I apologize if I've done anything incorrectly.
1 posted on 02/18/2004 5:44:42 AM PST by Prairie Pubbie
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To: Prairie Pubbie
Exhaust vents make an inexpensive, warm place to sleep at night.
2 posted on 02/18/2004 5:46:30 AM PST by SquirrelKing (A vote for John Kerry is a vote for Jane Fonda.)
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To: Prairie Pubbie
If you want to see the White House, you need to show up very early to get tickets for the tours. And I think you're limited to 4 tickets. Call ahead. Oh, and try to time it for the height of cherry blossom time.
3 posted on 02/18/2004 5:49:18 AM PST by theDentist (Boston: So much Liberty, you can buy a Politician already owned by someone else.)
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To: Prairie Pubbie
Having been to DC only a few times, I would strongly recommend the Vietnam Veteran's Memorial, especially with the new interest in it. Just seeing all those names really drives it home. It is such a somber experience, but one that makes you grateful for your own life, and recognize the sacrifices other made.

And the Smithsonian Museums, all of them!

Maybe a DC FReeper can help, but there was an Irish pub just a few blocks from the Mall, and the food and atmosphere was great. Gosh, what's the name? You walked in, low wall on the left, and the bar was ahead to the left, with circular booths and tables looking out the window on the front left, and tables on the right.

4 posted on 02/18/2004 5:49:44 AM PST by eyespysomething (There is no threat. The Communists are not about to take over our McDonald hamburger stands. JFK '71)
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To: Prairie Pubbie
Can't give advice on where to stay but a couple of "must see" places is the Smithsonian and the U.S. Mint (there's something awe-inspiring seeing bales of money).
5 posted on 02/18/2004 5:50:18 AM PST by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: Prairie Pubbie
Learn the "Metro" system, so you can see D.C. area without getting off at the "wrong" station...

I'll think of more as the day goes....
6 posted on 02/18/2004 5:50:52 AM PST by dakine
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To: Prairie Pubbie
bookmark for later response
7 posted on 02/18/2004 5:52:12 AM PST by nina0113
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To: Prairie Pubbie
Spend all your time in the Smithsonian. You won't even scratch the surface in a week.
8 posted on 02/18/2004 5:56:17 AM PST by prion
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To: Prairie Pubbie
I love Washington, D.C.

If you're into walking long distances you won't have any trouble.

If you're not, learn the public transit system, be prepared to grab taxis, or book a Grayline Bus Tour.
9 posted on 02/18/2004 5:56:21 AM PST by dawn53
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To: theDentist; Prairie Pubbie
If you want to see the White House, you need to show up very early to get tickets for the tours.

Last I knew, you can't get tickets at the door at all. If you want to tour the White House, you must get tickets by contacting your Congressman, and popular dates get snapped up very quickly. Ticket requests should be made as far in advance as possible, up to six months in advance - i.e., if you're planning on going in May or June, get tickets now...

10 posted on 02/18/2004 5:56:53 AM PST by general_re (Remember that what's inside of you doesn't matter because nobody can see it.)
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To: Prairie Pubbie
Personally, I found the White House tour to be a snoozer. The Smithsonian and the Capitol building were much more interesting. Be sure to stop across the Potomac and check out Washington's old digs at Mt. Vernon.
11 posted on 02/18/2004 5:57:02 AM PST by Grumpy Bear (Don't poke the bear.)
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To: Prairie Pubbie
Get a subway map and list of stops to plan your route to monuments.

Call you Congressman for free tickets to the White House so you don't have to wait in line.

I recommend the Omni Shoreham- Great location. Historical as well.

HERE

Have fun!

12 posted on 02/18/2004 5:57:29 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red ,white and blue!)
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To: Prairie Pubbie
Mariott Crystal City and Mariott Crystal Gateway usually have very good weekend deals. They are only a few blocks from each other and there is a Metro station next to one of them (can't remember which).

If I was going right now I would make the new Air and Space annex a must see. Also, the gem and rare coin exhibits at the Smithsonian are must see as well.

I recommend flying in to Reagan National and use the Metro and cabs for transport. You can save a bit of money flying in to BWI, but transport from BWI to DC will offset the cost savings, so Reagan National is IMHO a better choice.

13 posted on 02/18/2004 6:00:07 AM PST by 6ppc
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To: Prairie Pubbie
Taking a drive out to the Air and Space annex at Dulles airport is well worth the time.
14 posted on 02/18/2004 6:00:10 AM PST by general_re (Remember that what's inside of you doesn't matter because nobody can see it.)
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To: eyespysomething; Prairie Pubbie
And I think, for the Smithsonian, plan at least two days for it.
15 posted on 02/18/2004 6:00:24 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Prairie Pubbie
I find Ford's Theatre fascinating.

The National Zoo is good too...and free.

If you want a nice, quiet place, Rock Creek Park is a good bet.

16 posted on 02/18/2004 6:01:43 AM PST by what's up
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To: Prairie Pubbie
Look in to the Holiday Inn in Old Town Alexandria. Don't know how much it is but area is nice. Arlington would be another close in area. Also, Fairfax, va. has a cue bus that goes to the metro station, and voila, you can do the whole dc area. However, Old Town also has a bus, but I am not sure of its route; surely it goes to metro as well. The Hampton Inns have good rates & breakfast as well. Look up these cities on the internet. National airport would be the most convenient. The best way to tour, I think, is to catch that tour bus that makes the rounds and you can get off at particular sites and catch the next one when you are ready. There is a new air & space deal out at Dulles Airport. There is an airport shuttle service to take for that if you like. You can get most all bus and metro schedules from the net. And I think you would need to work that out before you get here in order to make the most of your time. Need more info - email to pat.stevens@verizon.net
17 posted on 02/18/2004 6:03:57 AM PST by DooDahhhh
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To: Prairie Pubbie
Almost forgot...be sure to go to the International Spy Museum...great exhibit. Buy your tickets in advance. If you walk up you will wind up having to wait several hours for your time slot.
18 posted on 02/18/2004 6:04:41 AM PST by 6ppc
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To: Prairie Pubbie
The hottest new attraction in town is the Spy Museum. You can't go wrong staying at the Mayflower Hotel.

19 posted on 02/18/2004 6:04:50 AM PST by billb
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To: theDentist; Prairie Pubbie
May is too late for cherry blossoms. They are in bloom around Easter usually.

Spend at least two days in the mall area seeing the White House, Capitol, various Memorials and the Smithsonian. The kids will especialy like the natural history one, I'll bet.

The Vietnam Memorial is not near the Mall, but is well worth seeing. Dittos for the U.S. Treasury where they print money. Fun for kids.

Check when the Commandant Drum and Bugle Corps/Silent Drill Team performs at the Iwo Jima Monument--I believe it's Tuesday evening in the summer. That is a must see - it's free.

Also plan an evening at Wolf Trap Farm. They have great shows there. Stop somewhere and get a picnic lunch (Greek chicken and the fixings is a great option) and picnic on the grounds before the show. You'll have a great time.

If you want something more formal, check out offerings at the Kennedy Center -- very elegant setting right on the Potomac.

The Baltimore Harbor and Aquarium is just up the road a bit. That's a good choice for kids.


More to do than you'll have time for, I'll bet.
20 posted on 02/18/2004 6:05:39 AM PST by randita
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To: Prairie Pubbie
I'm so envious of your trip to DC! I've been there several times...it was wonderful each time.

Since this is an election year, call your representative and senator's offices now! They SHOULD cheerfully get you passes to the WH and congress so you can bypass the waiting-in-line stuff. Our representative sent us tickets, and one of his aides personally escorted us through the maze between (and underneath) the house and senate. We took a little golf cart type vehicle because it's a lengthy corridor between the two houses. We passed Bob Dole in a hallway, and saw Ted Kennedy (he's a BIG 'un!) down on the floor of the Senate! Another time, our representative got us tickets to the WH...wonderful visit!

Do NOT miss the Viet Nam memorial...if you can walk past it without breaking down, you're tougher than I! Also...if you can go up in the Washington Monument, DO IT!!! Take a camera...there's a birdseye view from all four sides and you can get some spectacular pictures from waaaaay up there! Don't miss Arlington National Cemetery, and JFK's gravesite. (Look straight up the hillside to see Robert E. Lee's home...you can visit there, too!) The hourly changing of the guard is a remarkable, very moving experience...buses run continually, so it's easy to get around the Cemetery, and everyone should see it.

Lastly...ride Metro everywhere! It's very safe, incredibly clean, and you'll see lots of Washington residents go to work (and they LOVE to help visitors!)...and parking is the pits! Wear comfy shoes and have fun!
21 posted on 02/18/2004 6:06:03 AM PST by Maria S ("I will do whatever the Americans wantI saw what happened in Iraq, and I was afraid." Gaddafi, 9/03)
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To: Prairie Pubbie
If staying in Alexandria try for some place economical in the Old Town area, although economical and Old Town don't usually go together. Again if staying in Alexandria, flying into Reagan would be the first choice, Dulles second. The Metro provides very good transportation around DC and the suburbs but some places of interest - Mount Vernon for example - may require a taxi or bus ride too.

If you want the White House tour, try working through your Congressman to arrange tickets. Well in advance! The cherry blossoms reach their peak in early April (typically) so you will miss that.

A new museum that has opened in the last couple of years is The Spy Museum - get tickets ahead of time if interested because it has been selling out. Even newer is the aviation wing of the Smithsonian which just opened in late December 2003. It is located adjacent to Dulles Airport and would require taxi (the Metro doesn't go out that far). Admission is FREE. Although I have not been yet I have heard from other visitors it is fantastic - lots of static displays of famous aircraft, from the Enola Gay to one of the shuttles.
That's the tip of the iceberg. Let me know if you need more info.....



22 posted on 02/18/2004 6:06:05 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Prairie Pubbie
I'd recommend a visit to Arlington National Cemetery. Here's a link to its website.
23 posted on 02/18/2004 6:07:48 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: 6ppc
You can save a bit of money flying in to BWI, but transport from BWI to DC will offset the cost savings...

If you fly into BWI, there's an express bus that runs to the Greenbelt station - you can take the Green line right into DC...

24 posted on 02/18/2004 6:08:01 AM PST by general_re (Remember that what's inside of you doesn't matter because nobody can see it.)
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To: Prairie Pubbie
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/metro/front.htm

Learn it. Live it. You'll love it!
25 posted on 02/18/2004 6:09:09 AM PST by Helen
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To: IncPen
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26 posted on 02/18/2004 6:09:29 AM PST by IncPen ( Liberalism: Works for you until all of your money is spent.)
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To: Prairie Pubbie
Good for you. You have a sporting chance of being able to do a lot, but not even 8 days is enough to see everything. When is the trip scheduled?
I think the mall deserves three days, much is there: the Air & Space museum, the National Gallery of Art, the Capitol, The Archives...
Try to visit Union Station, the Supreme Court building, the Georgetown Park mall; National Geographic headquarters.
Food? Once in a lifetime chance to dine at 1789 Restaurant,Georgetown, and La Bodega del Arabardero, for authentic Spanish food..

Take notes and lots of pictures!

Flying into BWI is a good alternative usually saving lots of cash and the Amtrack into Union Station is a snap. A good alternative.
Good luck!

27 posted on 02/18/2004 6:12:12 AM PST by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: Prairie Pubbie
http://www.wmata.com/

This is a link to the very nice Washington Area Metro. Check out the route maps and especially the "Ride Guide" along the lower right of this page.

For places to stay, I'll leave that to other more experienced FREEPERS, but one suggestion might be Crystal City, VA (in the middle of Arlington -- one Metro-stop from Reagan National). Very safe and a flexible for site-seeing (there is a Crystal City Metro Stop). Also nice informal dining on 23rd Street in Arlington -- a few blocks from the Metro Stop. I'm sure there are a variety of Holiday Inns, Comfort Inns, etc. nearby.

May-June is well past the Cherry Blossom season (early April) but the city/mall is beautiful in early summer. I would encourage you to make an appointment to meet with your congressman and request a tour of the Capitol Building. Plan a walking tour of the monuments (get in line early morning for tickets for the Washington Monument -- you can then walk to the Founders Pond, Vietnam Memorial, Lincoln Memorial, FDR Memorial, Jefferson Memorial and back to the Washington Monument circling the Mall).

Plan some visits to the Smithsonians: Air & Space, etc. Plan a visit to Fords Theater: http://www.fordstheatre.org/
You can buy tickets to a performance online or just plan a visit during the day to see where President Lincoln was shot -- but they won't let you in if there is a performance going on or about to go on.

There may be public transportation (see the Metro guide) to Washington's Mount Vernon -- or you may want to rent a car for a day to take in places like Mount Vernon. If you did rent a car, you might enjoy a day trip out to Front Royal, VA and a brief ride down the upper portion of the Skyline Drive -- one of the prettiest drives in the USA. There are also vinyards out in that part of VA that are a nice relaxing time.

If you're interested in Civil War sites: Manassas (Battle of Bull Run) is about 40 minutes from Arlington, VA by car. Fredericksburg, VA is a neat town for a day-trip.

I've never been there, but the International Spy Museum is supposed to be very good... This looks like a great website:
http://www.spymuseum.org/index.asp

I'll end here... hope this helps.
28 posted on 02/18/2004 6:14:07 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds
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To: Grumpy Bear
The White House is probably the lamest tourist destination in the DC/Baltimore area. Absolutely not worth the wait/hassle. But people feel compelled to visit it.

A million cooler things to visit.
29 posted on 02/18/2004 6:15:48 AM PST by John H K
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To: Prairie Pubbie
Union Station was an interesting place to view and eat. It is several miles around the monuments so wear good walking shoes and realize the building security detectors are more sensitive in that town than in the airports. Credit card strips will set some off.
30 posted on 02/18/2004 6:15:58 AM PST by Dust in the Wind (I've got peace like a river . . .)
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To: Prairie Pubbie
1. Airports - If time isn't an issue and money is, lots of people fly into BWI and take the MARC train down to Union Station in DC. It's a regular train, very clean and safe, and cheap ($10-$15) and fast. From there you can go anywhere in D.C. I'd recommend taking a taxi to your hotel - you're looking at about $20 max (remember that you can haggle with D.C. cabbies if you're staying outside the district) for a fare and it takes you right to your hotel. Alternatively, you can use the Metro.

Between Dulles and Regan - National, it's almost a wash - you have to take a cab to and from Dulles, but flights into Regan - National usually average about $100 higher than flights into Dulles. On the other hand, both are closer than BWI.

2. Hotels - If money is only partly an issue, consider staying in the Holiday Inn in oldtown Alexandria. You're 7 blocks from the King Street Metro and it's a very nice walk straight west on King Street to the metro station. In Alexandria, stay within 2-3 blocks of King Street - there are sections between Alexandria and Arlington that are a little sketchy.

Alternatively, there is a hotel called the American or the Americana or something like that in Crystal City (Arlington) which is close to the pentagon and also right on top of a metro line. Also in Crystal City you have your choice of Marriott & other higher end hotels.

Don't stay in the district. You'll get hosed on hotel rates and taxes.

3. Places to see - (1) Oldtown Alexandria is an awesome place to eat and relax; (2) Mount Vernon (just south of Alexandria - you can actually walk there on a safe bike path that goes through town); (3) Pentagon; (4) Smithsonian; (5) the Cold War Museaum (run by the son of U2 Pilot Gary Powers); (6) anything else.
31 posted on 02/18/2004 6:18:59 AM PST by FateAmenableToChange
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To: Prairie Pubbie
Wow, so much to do. If you’ve got a car and you’re a civil war buff Sharpsburg, Manassas, and Harper’s Ferry are a 45-90 minute drive from DC. George Washington’s home in Mt Vernon is a short drive as well.

The new Smithsonian Air and Space adjunct near Dullas Airport is fantastic.
32 posted on 02/18/2004 6:19:11 AM PST by ElTianti
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To: Prairie Pubbie
oh I just thought of something else.. you could get a really neat souvenir from your Congressman.

You can request an American Flag that has been flown over the Capitol building on one of the days you are in town, or get one for each kiddo, two separate days. I think it is $25.00 per flag. You will get a certificate with it. Just ask for a flag request for special occasions.

33 posted on 02/18/2004 6:19:27 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red ,white and blue!)
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To: Prairie Pubbie
Avoid the typical lunch madness at the Nat. History Meuseum, etc. Go to the cafeteria between the East and West wing Art Galleries(Downstairs). (Not many think to go there so you avoid the touoristy crowds.) Nice sized cafeteria (but everywhere is DC is costly.

Make 'em tour the Art Gallery while there. Just the architecture alone is impressive.

The gardens to the left, right and behind the origional Sandstone Castle is nice to. Good place to get away from the crowds. The kids will like the waterfall / fountains.

34 posted on 02/18/2004 6:21:26 AM PST by Swanks
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To: Prairie Pubbie
Contact your congressman and senator. They can often get you tours of the White House and Capitol where you are not part of a massive heard. My Senator, Sam Brownback, actually had an aide shepard a group of about a dozen of us through the Capitol. He even took us on the floor of the Senate.
35 posted on 02/18/2004 6:22:29 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
Oh yes, I forgot. The military nurse memorial near the Vietnam memorial. If that doesn't bring tears to your eyes, nothing will. One of my favorite places to go for a moment of meditation on every visit to the area (other than the Georgetown U campus).
36 posted on 02/18/2004 6:23:28 AM PST by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: eyespysomething
You're probably thinking of The Dubliner, which is owned by the IRA and is a fundraising source for them. Teddy Kennedy has been known to hang out there.
37 posted on 02/18/2004 6:23:53 AM PST by Capriole (Foi vainquera)
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To: SquirrelKing
No one's sharing where NOT to go though, ie where the hell to stay out of in the DC area. Info like that is really helpful.

I was at a conference 2 summers ago, staying in a Hyatt Regency (I think) a few blocks from the Capitol. I was out looking for a paper on Sunday morning and ran afoul of 4 guys sitting on the sidewalk, drinking quietly and looking generally malevolent. I managed not to get killed, but I am a "bald, white bitch" apparently. DC definitely celebrated diversity.

But the day before, I had walked basically across town with no problem at all; one block over from my hotel and I had a problem.

38 posted on 02/18/2004 6:24:03 AM PST by Gefreiter
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To: eyespysomething
That's either the Dubliner or the Irish Times. They're right next to each other. The link for the Dubliner is here. Good food, but not really kid-friendly:

http://washington-dc.travelape.com/nightlife/the-dubliner-pub/

As for where to stay, you might consider North Arlington if you can get a good rate. You can find a good mid-level hotel (Comfort Inn, Quality Inn, etc.) within walking distance of the Orange Line. And if you hop on the Orange Line, you can be downtown in 15 minutes. You're right not to drive.

Anyway, I second the recommendations already given. Otherwise, it depends on the child. I enjoyed visiting the U.S. Congress when I was a kid, but then, I liked politics. Arlington Cemetary is interesting, particularly the tomb of the unknown soldier. Tour buses leave from Uniion Station, and those can be fun for learning bits of trivia about our nation's capital. Union Station is also an excellent place to get a meal.

Good luck. Freepmail me with any specific questions. Welcome!

39 posted on 02/18/2004 6:25:03 AM PST by Our man in washington (No financial interest in any company mentioned in this post--just giving information)
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To: Prairie Pubbie
Washington DC is my hometown, so I have lots of opinions:) Besides all the above good advice, plan to go to the Holocaust Museum, which is walking distance from the Smithsonian. You have to reserve a time to go through the major exhibits. I showed up at 10:00 for a 1:00 entry.

Also the Supreme Court and Library of Congress are all right there on Capitol Hill and only takes a few minutes to drop by. (I took my daughter to the Capitol, Supreme Court and White House as the 3 branches of gov't tour.)

You definitely want to fly into Reagan National Airport. Dulles and BWI are quite a distance out. If you don't have a car, be sure your hotel is within walking distance to a Metro stop. In Alexandria, the Embassy Suites is right across the street from the Metro station. While in Alexandria, be sure to spend a little time in Old Town. Great restaurants! Eat lots of good seafood.

If you're into art, the Phillips Gallery is fantastic. I like it more than the National Gallery.

You might want to go to Georgetown as well. A lot of politicians live there, once you get on the side streets, and it also has good restaurants.

The Pentagon has tours. Also, you can prearrange with your Congressional representative to visit their office and a staffer might even give you a personal tour of the Capital.

Even though the Metro is wonderful, bring comfortable walking shoes! May would probably be a better month. Summer starts in June in DC and it can get very hot.

40 posted on 02/18/2004 6:27:05 AM PST by Alissa
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To: self
Bump for later review.
41 posted on 02/18/2004 6:27:16 AM PST by Law
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To: Publius6961
My husband and I were literally speechless after seeing the Vietnam Memorial. I noticed many people were in the same state at the end of the Memorial Wall.

God Bless all of our troops, always!

42 posted on 02/18/2004 6:30:36 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red ,white and blue!)
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To: Prairie Pubbie
Okay. My wife and I love DC, her grandmother was from Springfield. One of our favorite things to do is to stay in Alexandria and ride bicycles into DC along the parkway. There is an excellent paved trail and an incredible view along the river. Bring a good lock and a pack to carry helmets, etc. One one trip we ended up ringside to Jackie Onassis' funeral procession into Arlington.
43 posted on 02/18/2004 6:32:41 AM PST by SquirrelKing (A vote for John Kerry is a vote for Jane Fonda.)
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To: Prairie Pubbie

I found the USMC War Memorial worth a visit. Dedicated to all the fallen of all wars US Marines have been in. A long list of those wars is engraved around the base.

44 posted on 02/18/2004 6:32:57 AM PST by xp38
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To: Johnny Gage
Self ping for future reference
45 posted on 02/18/2004 6:33:46 AM PST by Johnny Gage (God Bless our Firefighters, our Police, our EMS responders, and most of all, our Veterans)
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To: Prairie Pubbie
The DuPont Circle Area and 17th St. Are really great, especially after dark. Great nightlife.

Just kidding.

46 posted on 02/18/2004 6:35:29 AM PST by conserv13
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To: Prairie Pubbie
1. Old Town Alexandria, Virginia, just across the Potomac from DC. Gorgeous, historic, and easy to walk around. You can eat dinner by candlelight at Gadsby's Tavern, where George Washington used to dine, and go to services at Christ Episcopal Church, where he bought a pew; you can walk along the Potomac, visit Lee's house, and pop into fascinating shops.

2. A short, scenic drive down the road from Old Town is Mount Vernon, which every American should visit.

3. Take a boat ride on the Potomac from Alexandria down to Mount Vernon or upriver past the great monuments.

4. Do Not Miss Arlington. (My father will be buried there the first weekend in May.) Arlington is very beautiful and moving. It's crowned on Arlington Heights by Robert E. Lee's house which is worth a visit.

5. Annapolis, Maryland, another short drive.

6. The battlefields of the Civil War--all of Northern Virginia is one big battlefield but there are strip malls on most of it except Manassas. If you can spare a day for it, every American should visit Gettysburg, which is 2 (scenic) hours away.

7. A self-tour starting on upper Connecticut Avenue at the Washington Cathedral, proceeding to the gardens of Dumbarton Oaks, in Kalorama, and then down to the shops and lovely houses of Georgetown.

8. The Library of Congress--gorgeous!

47 posted on 02/18/2004 6:39:00 AM PST by Capriole (Foi vainquera)
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To: Capriole
6. The battlefields of the Civil War--all of Northern Virginia is one big battlefield but there are strip malls on most of it except Manassas. If you can spare a day for it, every American should visit Gettysburg, which is 2 (scenic) hours away.

Gettysburg is sorta ruined for me by all the statues every few feet. Antietam (even closer than Gettysburg) looks 10 times better with 1/10th the crowds.

48 posted on 02/18/2004 6:41:28 AM PST by John H K
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To: Prairie Pubbie
You Freepers are the best! We knew that we would get the most EXCELLENT information from all of you! Thanks for all the interesting ideas and input! Keep it coming!
49 posted on 02/18/2004 6:43:21 AM PST by Prairie Pubbie (Proud supporter of our awesome US military and their Commander in Chief!)
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To: Capriole
You're probably thinking of The Dubliner, which is owned by the IRA and is a fundraising source for them. Teddy Kennedy has been known to hang out there.

ARRGGHHH!!!!

50 posted on 02/18/2004 6:44:05 AM PST by eyespysomething (There is no threat. The Communists are not about to take over our McDonald hamburger stands. JFK '71)
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