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Soros denounces 'Bush Doctrine'
Duke Chronicle ^ | February 18, 2004 | by Chrissie Gorman

Posted on 02/18/2004 8:42:41 AM PST by Helms

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To: Helms
I'm encouraged by the fact that he describes John Kerry as a good candidate, and Kerry/Edwards as a winning ticket ... if he really believes this, he's an absolute idiot!
21 posted on 02/18/2004 9:08:17 AM PST by Tax-chick (Still more than 8 months remaining until the election - is this boring or what?)
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To: Helms
>>George Soros has done it all--from surviving Nazi occupation of Budapest, Hungary, where he was born, to living under communism

It was my understanding that he WAS a Nazi, then turned Communist. This phrasing makes it sound like he was an innocent victim of both, not an active supporter.

Which is it?
22 posted on 02/18/2004 9:09:15 AM PST by MrB
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To: Helms
F Soros. New T-shirt "Soros Loser"
23 posted on 02/18/2004 9:09:22 AM PST by manic4organic (An organic conservative)
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To: Helms
The current "Bush Doctrine," as Soros called it, consists of two factors--undivided support for the military at home and the right to intervene abroad.

"[The Bush Doctrine] is not consistent with values of open society and cannot possibly be accepted by the rest of the world," Soros said.


Well, now we know what they stand for. Personally, I don't support this. Don't know an American that would.
We got 3,000 deaths based on his approach.
24 posted on 02/18/2004 9:10:24 AM PST by dyed_in_the_wool ("For diplomacy to be effective, words must be credible" - GWB)
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To: Helms
When did this @hole come out of the closet?
25 posted on 02/18/2004 9:12:24 AM PST by b4its2late (DRD: Department of Redundancy Department.)
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To: Helms
Correct. There is no such thing as "international law." The United States is bound by its Constitution, its internal laws, and those bilateral and multilateral treaty obligations it chooses to undertake.

Further, I'm getting a bit tired of the "Bush Doctrine" of preemption being described as unique in US history. The War of the Revolution, the wars of western expansion, the Mexican American War, The Spanish American War, the action against the Barbary pirates, Woodrow Wilson's little excursion into Mexico, World War I, the intervention in Panama to remove Manuel Noriega, the invasions of Grenada and Haiti, and the actions in Bosnia and Kosovo were all "preemptive," in that they all involved significant American military action against another country without a military act by that country against the United States or one of our treaty allies. It is the doctrine of nonpreemption, which grew out of the carnage of World War I, which is in fact the exception in American history.

26 posted on 02/18/2004 9:15:07 AM PST by p. henry
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To: babyface00
He has a special opinion. But why exactly is that stupid? If we want to hit hard against these liberals, we should perhaps argue more precisely.
27 posted on 02/18/2004 9:16:27 AM PST by jimknopf
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To: Helms
" . . . activist for the preservation of an American open society."

We already have an open society; what Soros wants is to end that, to destroy the Constitution by destroying American sovereignty and making the U.S. a slave to non-elected, non-accountable international organizations like the U.N. He is an international socialist, nothing less.
28 posted on 02/18/2004 9:21:17 AM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: jimknopf
For a more precise argument, see post #26.
29 posted on 02/18/2004 9:24:18 AM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: b4its2late
I shared a moment in time with Georgie Gazillionaire Soros at Duke . Overwhelming crowd. Shook his hand and introduced myself. Old men do not want to religuish power and apparently that this is e with Soros and Murdock, and Kofi Annan. Anyway he said and I will quote "postmodernism has gone to far". I agreed but thought that he was a postmodern philosopher himself.

Fox News according to Soros is an "Orwellian Truth Machine". He peppered everything with the hyperbolic rhetoric of the Left ala Moveon.org. This guy is a multinational traveler. He really is European and uses his US citizenship as cover.

He did say that Algore was turning out to be a great ambassador for the cause. He did not woo audience and in fact his presentatation lasted about 10 minutes and with q and a later.

When I heard him say this about Gore, I made a noticeable groaning sound which was partially audible.

30 posted on 02/18/2004 9:24:23 AM PST by Helms
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To: Steve_Seattle
No international law? But there are international treaties the US signed. Why can't that be called international law?
31 posted on 02/18/2004 9:26:56 AM PST by jimknopf
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To: Helms
Soros made explicit that he is using both his expertise in international affairs and his money to try to prevent President Bush's re-election. Soros has already donated $12.5 million to the Democratic effort, a figure that he says is likely to rise.

I can't help but connect this with the extraordinary levels of brazen media bias we're seeing already, and it's only February. How much has Soros really spent already and who got it?

32 posted on 02/18/2004 9:29:35 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Helms
"Edwards would bring a considerable value to the ticket," Soros said. "[Kerry] needs a running mate who has appeal to the South."

I am the from the South, and Edwards doesn't appeal to me. He doesn't even appeal to the people that originally elected him in North Carolina. Trial lawyers with pretty hair are not popular in the South.

Also, Soros is an enemy of US sovereignty. He is treading on dangerous ground.

33 posted on 02/18/2004 9:38:42 AM PST by spodefly (February is Tagline History Month!)
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To: Helms; All
George Soros’ Social Agenda for America
 Capital Research Center: Publications Dash  
Drug Legalization, Euthanasia, Immigrant Entitlements and Feminism
by Neil Hrab

Summary:
The February issue of Foundation Watch examined the philanthropy of the billionaire financier George Soros. It found that Soros-funded groups supported increased government spending and tax increases, and opposed the death penalty and President Bush’s judicial nominees. In this article author Neil Hrab looks at Soros grants in four other policy areas: drug legalization, euthanasia, immigrant entitlements, and feminist organizing.



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GreenWatch:Corporate Philanthropy DatabaseOrganization(s) featured in this item
GreenWatch:Corporate Philanthropy Database

Maryland League of Conservation Voters Education Fund
Center for Reproductive Law & Policy
Mexican American Legal Defense & Education Fund
Ms. Foundation for Women
National Abortion & Reproductive Rights Action League
National Council of La Raza
Planned Parenthood
Department of the Interior
Open Society Institute
 
 
http://www.capitalresearch.org/pubs/pubs.asp?ID=122


34 posted on 02/18/2004 9:40:12 AM PST by wolficatZ (___><))))*>____)
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To: jimknopf
we should perhaps argue more precisely

Arguing with most is a waste of time. It assumes those on the other side would be swayed by facts and/or reason. Obviously, that isn't the case. Their policies have been proven to be bankrupt, in many cases for close to 100 years.

I'm tired of trying. Now I'm just calling it as I see it.
35 posted on 02/18/2004 9:41:06 AM PST by babyface00
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To: jimknopf
Treaties the U.S. signs become part of U.S. laws.

Welcome to FR, Moby.
36 posted on 02/18/2004 9:43:16 AM PST by Bilbo Baggins
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To: babyface00
OK, I understand your position.
37 posted on 02/18/2004 9:45:02 AM PST by jimknopf
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To: Bilbo Baggins
Thanks. I did not know that.
38 posted on 02/18/2004 9:47:19 AM PST by jimknopf
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To: VadeRetro; AfghanIraqVeteran; rollo tomasi; Joe Brower; Spruce; MrB; stop_fascism; p. henry; ...
SNAPSHOT OF SOROS:
Soros has already given $15 million dollars to defeat Bush. The millions George Soros is spending apparently come from his so-called foundations but none of Soros' foundations are US-based. While George Soros is a United States citizen (residing in suburban New York), Soros must comply with FEC campaign spending limitsfwhich are limited to $2000 a person........unless the donor is a corporate sponsor. However, George Soros doesfnot own any American corporations.


We know that Soros is in league with Peter Lewis--a pro-drug liberal-- and John Sperling. Soros can usually persuade Warren Buffet to go along with him. Peter Lewis is the chairman of the Progressive Insurance company (auto).

Then there is Soros' good-buddies, Mort Halpern, former Clintonoid John D. Podesta, Jeremy Rosner, Robert Boorstin and Carl Pope who have all hung out at his Long Island residence for private little "think tanks".

Soros supports Steve Rosenthal and Ellen Malcolm, his puppets who are running the anti-Bush group---ACT (America Coming Together)-----and to whom he pledged $10 million. His friends also pledged money to ACT: Robert Glaser, of RealNetworks, $2 million; Robert McKay, on behalf of the McKay Family Foundation, $1 million; and Lewis and Dorothy B. Cullman gave $500,000.

No one has any doubts about his connections to Russian oil magnate and corrupt oligarch Khodorkovsky.

Some may know of Soros' joint venture involvement in mustcom. He is aligned with Vladimir Potanin of Uneximbank; Boris Jordan of Renaissance Capital; Nicholas Jordan, Boris' brother of Deustche Bank's Russian Division of Deutsche Morgan Grenfell, and the Morgan Stanley Investment Group.


Soros is chairman of the Open Society Institute (OSI) and the founder of a network of so-called philanthropic organizations that are active in more than 50 countries and which give Soros cover to launch his currency scams and government coups). Soros is based primarily in Central and Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union but also in Africa, Latin America, and Asia.

Soros foundations are autonomous institutions established in particular countries or regions to supposedly initiate and support Soros' Open Society activities. The priorities and specific activities of each Soros foundation are determined by a local board of directors and staff in consultation with George Soros and OSI boards and advisors. In addition to support from the Open Society Institute, many of the foundations receive funding from other sources.

Soros foundations consist of national foundations in 29 countries, foundations in Kosovo and Montenegro, and two regional foundations, the Open Society Initiative for Southern Africa (OSISA) and the Open Society Initiative for West Africa (OSIWA). OSISA and OSIWA, which are governed by their own boards of directors and staffs from the region, make grants in a total of 27 African countries.

Below are all of the Soros foundations, arranged alphabetically by country or area.

Albania: Open Society Foundation for Albania

Armenia: Open Society Institute Assistance Foundation?Armenia

Azerbaijan: Open Society Institute Assistance Foundation?Azerbaijan

Bosnia and Herzegovina: Open Society Fund?Bosnia and Herzegovina

Bulgaria: Open Society Foundation?Sofia

Croatia: Open Society Institute?Croatia

Czech Republic: Open Society Fund?Prague

Estonia: Open Estonia Foundation

Georgia: Open Society Georgia Foundation

Guatemala: Fundacion Soros?Guatemala

Haiti: Fondation Connaissance et Liberte

Hungary: Soros Foundation?Hungary

Kazakhstan: Soros Foundation?Kazakhstan

Kosovo: Kosova Foundation for Open Society

Kyrgyzstan: Soros Foundation? Kyrgyzstan

Latvia: Soros Foundation? Latvia

Lithuania: Open Society Fund? Lithuania

Macedonia: Foundation Open Society Institute? Macedonia

Moldova: Soros Foundation?Moldova

Mongolia: Mongolian Foundation for Open Society

Montenegro: Foundation Open Society Institute?Representative Office
Montenegro

Poland: Stefan Batory Foundation

Romania: Open Society Foundation?Romania

Russia: Open Society Institute?Russia

Serbia: Fund for an Open Society?Serbia

Slovakia: Open Society Foundation?Bratislava

South Africa: Open Society Foundation for South Africa

Southern Africa: Open Society Initiative for Southern Africa

Tajikistan: Open Society Institute Assistance Foundation?Tajikistan

Turkey: Open Society Institute Assistance Foundation?Turkey

Ukraine: International Renaissance Foundation

Uzbekistan: Open Society Institute Assistance Foundation?Uzbekistan

West Africa: Open Society Initiative for West Africa

39 posted on 02/18/2004 9:49:38 AM PST by Liz
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To: smith288
It wouldn't bother me if he was removed. Too bad the Commies or the Nazis didn't rid the earth of this American hating piece of dirt.
40 posted on 02/18/2004 9:53:35 AM PST by ohioman
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