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China Reportedly Building 3 Aircraft Carriers (Rumor yet to be confirmed)
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Posted on 02/18/2004 1:29:59 PM PST by Filibuster_60

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To: Filibuster_60; hchutch
And US submarine captains will take one look at the ChiCom carrier and say, "There's a Navy Cross just waiting to get pinned on."
21 posted on 02/18/2004 2:02:53 PM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: Captain Rhino
A follow-on piece says the PLAN doesn't intend to form dedicated air groups for these carriers, instead drawing on existing aircrews. For some years they've had pilots practice on mock flight decks.

I'm more worried about the simple fact they're now able to build larger warships at a faster pace. With all the shipbuilding technology they're getting from South Korea & Japan & the electronic expertise they're getting from all their advanced trading partners, along with the huge expansion of their maritime facilities, they could conceivably acquire the world's second-biggest navy by 2020.

But hey, Japan won't stand idly by & should keep a qualitative edge at least another decade. The western Pacific is looking to get rather interesting.
22 posted on 02/18/2004 2:06:54 PM PST by Filibuster_60
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To: Poohbah
If, that is, the carrier wings didn't get them first.

:)
23 posted on 02/18/2004 2:07:45 PM PST by hchutch ("I never get involved with my own life. It's too much trouble." - Michael Garibaldi)
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To: Filibuster_60
With all the shipbuilding technology they're getting from South Korea & Japan & the electronic expertise they're getting from all their advanced trading partners, along with the huge expansion of their maritime facilities, they could conceivably acquire the world's second-biggest navy by 2020.

Ivan did the same thing. Fat lotta good it did him.

24 posted on 02/18/2004 2:12:06 PM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: My2Cents
Once they get the carriers, they need planes and pilots...and we all know what happened to their best hotshot zoomie...


25 posted on 02/18/2004 2:13:32 PM PST by ErnBatavia (Some days you're the windshield; some days you're the bug)
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To: Filibuster_60
These guys have been working on a navy for a long time
they want to "negate" our naval superiority so that they can grab Taiwan back
26 posted on 02/18/2004 2:14:21 PM PST by DM1
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To: ErnBatavia
LOL...You mean "Wong Wey"?
27 posted on 02/18/2004 2:15:09 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: Bikers4Bush
LOL....The latter.
28 posted on 02/18/2004 2:15:55 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: Filibuster_60
48,000 tons is pretty small in today's world. They are between the old WWII Essex Class and the immediate post-WWII Midway Class carriers.

They certainly aren't in any way equivalent to the Enterprise or Nimitz class ships we have.
29 posted on 02/18/2004 2:17:43 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: Filibuster_60
Time for Taiwan to speed up the production of those submarines! Perhaps we could loan them a couple, fortraining purposes only , of course! (cough, cough)
30 posted on 02/18/2004 2:17:45 PM PST by Vinnie_Vidi_Vici
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To: Poohbah
The Soviets never enjoyed the kind of massive trade with the developed world the Chinese have today. So they managed to build a "luxury fleet" centered on a bunch of SSBNs with poor electronics. It wasn't much of a navy by our standards but quite threatening at the regional level.
31 posted on 02/18/2004 2:21:09 PM PST by Filibuster_60
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To: Filibuster_60
A "luxury fleet" is any fleet that can't stand up to its opponents. And that will include the PLAN's toy aircraft carriers. SUBRON 7 at Yokosuka will take care of business as needed.
32 posted on 02/18/2004 2:38:52 PM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: Filibuster_60
Oh goody goody! Target practice for the U.S Navy!
33 posted on 02/18/2004 2:43:39 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (It's not over till the intern sings)
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To: longtermmemmory
I wonder if the Russian air craft carrier was of the same fine quality as their submarines ?
34 posted on 02/18/2004 3:05:54 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Filibuster_60
These aren't carriers like we're used to. Seems to me they won't be of much use more than 500 miles off the Chinese coast. Area and sea denial, not power projection, would appear to be their mission. On the other hand, if the steam catapult feature is indeed being added, it would indicate they do intend to operate at least a few heavy strike planes.

Yes, very conveniently located to Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan.

35 posted on 02/18/2004 3:19:53 PM PST by valkyrieanne
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To: Filibuster_60
Isn't Japan building their first (loosely termed) aircraft carriers since '45?
36 posted on 02/18/2004 3:23:34 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Filibuster_60
It's always dangerous to underestimate an opponent. Let's wait until the carriers are underway before photo-shopping Titanic life preservers on 'em.
37 posted on 02/18/2004 3:32:14 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: Filibuster_60
Thank you, Bill Clinton, you traitorous c********r! I guess the democrats plan to complete the program of high-tech transfers to China he started as soon as they win the White House again.

Well, we're nuts if we allow China and the democrats to build up the Chinese military until it becomes a modern high-tech nuclear power that can pose an extreme threat to America. We should take them out right now. The Chinese we can deal with later.

38 posted on 02/18/2004 3:35:19 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Filibuster_60
Commie Kerry said he knows, "something about aircraft carriers for real..."

Maybe this is what he was talking about?

39 posted on 02/18/2004 3:36:42 PM PST by Joe 6-pack ("We deal in hard calibers and hot lead." - Roland Deschaines)
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To: ErnBatavia
He ate a propeller didn't he.
40 posted on 02/18/2004 3:40:26 PM PST by e_castillo
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