Comments from the Dean Site concerning Dean's speech to withdraw from the Presidential Race

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[PhiKapMom]

Comments from the Dean Site concerning Dean's speech to withdraw from the Presidential Race

SPEECH AT 1 PM

I had a nightmare last night. It was a commercial that said, "Health insurance premiums have gone up 800% because of malpractice lawyers like John Edwards waging frivilous law suits against good doctors. When doctors have to pay $40 million dollars, those costs are passed on to you, the average american trying to make ends meet. John Edwards wants you to think he's one of the little guys -- and then it cut to cut after cut of JE saying, "My daddy worked in a mill" -- Since when does the little guy make $40 million dollars on the backs of Americans?

I awoke shaking.

Posted by xxxx at February 18, 2004 12:36 PM

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Alex Polier's father had it correct the first time: Kerry is a "sleazeball." I will never, ever vote for Kerry. I will not vote for Edwards. And I have voted for the Democratic candidate in every election since I could vote.

If Dean endorses either of those corrupt men, Dean does not speak for me. Moreover, Dean will prove himself to be as corrupt as they are. I will go Green--forever. So will my money.

Posted by xxxx at February 18, 2004 12:48 PM

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hey there jk/je lurkers and trolls -- y'all will never have my time nor money -- and you certainly will not have my vote

so pis* off

Posted by xxxx at February 18, 2004 01:04 PM

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If Kerry and Bush are the same, and Kerry wins, we get stuck with him for maybe 8 years! If Bush wins we have a chance in 08!

KERRY CAN'T WIN! AT ALL COST!

Even if that means BUSH!

Posted by xxxxxxx at February 18, 2004 01:11 PM

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I suppose that is the silver lining: a Bush win in 2004 opens up the way for Dean 2008 -- and no incumbent!

Posted by xxx at February 18, 2004 01:14 PM

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I agree with Seattle...there is no way we could hold Kerry "accountable." Kerry is such a lying sleaze that he can never be held accountable. Kerry can only be defeated.

I will now work to save our nation from both Bush and Kerry.

Posted by xxxx at February 18, 2004 01:29 PM

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I cannot stop crying. Robert Oler is on CSPAN2 telling us that he is supporting Kerry. F**CKING b**stard

Posted by xxxx in Milw at February 18, 2004 01:33 PM

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I CANNOT AND WILL NOT VOTE FOR JOHN KERRY.

Posted by xxxxx in Idaho at February 18, 2004 01:34 PM

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I am crying like a baby.....

CORRUPTION WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I shall be retiring the name ByeByeBush after this post because I just dont care anymore.

I will also be leaving politics forever.

Posted by xxxx at February 18, 2004 01:37 PM

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Green party all the way baby! Fuc*k this party

Posted by xxxx at February 18, 2004 01:38 PM

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I would also like to say that if Kerry wins the nomination, I will not be voting for him in the general election. I think he is one of the most corrupt politicians ever. He makes my skin crawl.

Posted by xxxx in Mass. at February 18, 2004 01:45 PM

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Hey Robert Oler, Grossman, and all you other unprincipled OPPORTUNISTS -

F*#K YOU!!!!

We think for ourselves! And we support those that support us. Your man Kerry DOES NOT fit that bill.

Go ahead and kiss Kerry's skinny ass. But don't expect us to.

Posted by xxxxx in TX at February 18, 2004 01:46 PM

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if kerry is the nom, i will not vote for him. he stinks and will never get my vote!

Posted by xxxx at February 18, 2004 02:09 PM

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A BEGINNING NOT AN END

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I will not support John K. I can't even bring myself to type his last name. It's like a swear word.

Posted by XX at February 18, 2004 12:11 PM

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A vote for Kerry is a vote for a candidate and a campaign that personally and deeply hates us. It would be schizophrenic to cast a vote for an establishment that despises our existence. First the push polling in Iowa, then the Osama TV ad, and now this…

Posted by xxxxx at February 18, 2004 12:12 PM

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I will support you, Governor Dean, but I will never support either John Kerry or John Edwards. They are spineless opportunists who have shown atrocious judgement with respect to the most important decisions a president will ever make - decisions about war and peace. Electing either one of them will change absolutely nothing.

Posted by xx in NC at February 18, 2004 12:17 PM

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Forget about Edwards and Kerry! They are both so pathetic. Two Borg drones without spine. Neither will be able to take on Bush in fall.

Posted by xxxx at February 18, 2004 12:19 PM

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Go Nader!!!

THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY THAT KERRY, EDWARDS, THE DNC, OR ANY OF THOSE OTHER SPINELESS, SOULLESS, CONVICTION-LESS, PIECES OF TRASH WILL EVER GET A DIME OF MY MONEY, AN OUNCE OF MY SUPPORT, OR A CONSIDERATION OF MY VOTE.

Plus, Bush will eat either of the 2 remaining candidates alive - they have no record or a horrible record and are just hot air.

Today, we saw W secure 4 more years for himself.

To quote Robert Byrd - "Today, I weep for my country..."

Posted by xxxx in NY at February 18, 2004 12:23 PM

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Vote for an establishment democrat? no way! I will hold my nose and vote for Bush! The DNC needed my swing vote. It is too bad that they are backing the wrong man. I guess that is time to open my wallet and give my attention to Dubya.

Posted by xxxx at February 18, 2004 12:25 PM

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and I will *never* donate money or time to a campaign that worked to destroy what my husband and I worked so hard to help create. And, unfortunately, now I know just how filthy this process really is. I know understand where the people who voted for Nader were coming from.

Posted by xxxx in Ohio at February 18, 2004 12:40 PM

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Thank you and Good Night!

Vote BUSH in 04 and then Dean has a chance to run again in 08.

Posted by xxxx at February 18, 2004 12:41 PM

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I won't support John Edwards because he doesn't stand for equal protection for gay and lesbian Americans.

I won't support John Kerry because his support for gay and lesbian Americans changes with the political winds.

Posted xxxx at February 18, 2004 02:52 PM

[PhiKapMom]

Thought you would like to see the best of what the Dean supporters were saying after Dean left the race. They could have written campaign commercials for Bush-Cheney '04 last night!

These people are angry at Dean for dropping out and some were asking why since he was ahead of Edwards in the delegate count.

Now I see that Dean will probably endorse Edwards -- makes you wonder what deals are being struck and who is behind the deals.

It is important that we know what the opposition is saying -- this was enlightening.

Some comments I have seen on here against Pres Bush were the same I was reading last night. Very interesting to say the least!

[PhiKapMom]

This is really important that we see what the opposition supporters are saying since their candidate is saying we must support the DemocRAT candidate. A lot of the comments were 180 from what Dean was demanding of his supporters.

If anyone would like the full emails of comments relating to Kerry/Edwards/Nader, please freep mail me.

[onyx]

OH YES! FABULOUS!

LOL! I love it. "Hold my nose and vote for Bush." YES!

Such an enjoyable read!

PKM, this is just what we needed.

[EllaMinnow]

Poor babies! I really hope they keep their hatred of Kerry and Edwards burning hot till November.

[Columbine]

Yes, very interesting.

They sound extremely immature. I just hope they don't grow up before the election.

It would be great if they all vote for Nader.

[section9]

Holy Horsecrap, Batman!

Maybe we can get some of the Deanies to vote for Bush, just to give their man another chance.

Dean will endorse Edwards, however. These folks will have nowhere to go but to Nader. The strategerists among them will vote for Bush.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

[EggsAckley]

GREAT post, Mom!! I love it when they self-destruct!

[JohnnyZ]

Nice post. Reading about all those crying Deaniebopper was strangely arousing.

[deport]

Politics can be or is at times a nasty, no holds barred undertaking.... Emotions run high ....

It appears that no matter which way this campaign develops it will be very contentious with all sorts of accusations being made.... Look at what's coming out of the woodwork with Flynt, Moore, Soros, etc and I'm sure many more to come.

[McGavin999]

Quite interesting thinking. If they vote for Bush he only has 4 years, but if they vote for the dem he might have 8 years. Hmmmmmm.

If Dean backs Edwards (a trial lawyer who is responsible for the rising cost of health care) it just goes to show you that Dean is as corrupt as the rest.

[PhiKapMom]

Made me want to sign up over there and post -- Go Ralphie Go! There are tons more comments about going to Nader.

[El Conservador]

I just want to see a Condi-Howard race in '08.

Who will the Deaniacs bring themselves to vote for??? Their "principled", "outsider" candidate, or a female candidate from on of the "oppressed minorities"?

[PhiKapMom]

Some of their posts last night were the same wording I see on here against Pres Bush by the anti-Bush folks!

Made me wonder if they had been posting on here recently!

[PhiKapMom]

That seemed to be a common theme last night. Nader or hold your nose and vote for Bush so Howard can run in 2008.

Their dislike of Hillary and the media matches anything I have seen on here as well.

[PhiKapMom]

just goes to show you that Dean is as corrupt as the rest.

That's exactly what I got out of all of this on Dean. His supporters seemed to be a lot of first time voters or Nader people and they were not happy with the thought he might endorse someone before Super Tuesday.

His endorsement of Edwards and giving their mailing list to DNC is not going over well and will probably get worse. By late last night the Dean campaign seemed to be culling out the real negatives toward Edwards that were posted earlier.

[PhiKapMom]

LOL!!!! That's a good question! Made me burst out laughing! Condi for Pres!

[floriduh voter]

I'd like those posts by Deaniacs. Please email me at:
imcatinhat50@wmconnect.com

Thanks,

Nancy

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

[floriduh voter]

What's the url for Dean's site? And, sounds like some mad Deaniacs are going to go back to downloading music instead of paying attention to politics.

This kind of information would be good for newspaper forums to show how the dem party is splintering because lots of dems can't take Kerry or Edwards and think they are sleazeballs.

So, either they'll stay home mad or they'll wake up and go GOP. Who knows? But, the dem party of Bubba, Hitlery and McAwful is on very shaky ground. A PARTY BUILT ON SAND.

[floriduh voter]

Edwards always touting the "working man" spends a lot of time trying to separate them from their money for his campaign.

EDWARDS is always about to run out of campaign cash and isn't shy about asking for more.

Sounds like the Deaniacs are going to go to the mall instead of RE-FUND him.

[isthisnickcool]

It IS interesting! Their comments on Hillary. and there are not many. Note that unlike some people would like for us to believe there is no big desire for Hillary to come forward. That's a media fabrication.

[prairiebreeze]

ROFL! Each comment was better than the one before it.

What to these folks attribute Deans demise to? Do they blame the media? Hillary? DNC?

Prairie

[Mo1]

Ummm .. I guess Edwards and Kerry can't count on the Deanies for support?? *L*

[Mo1]

Do they blame the media? Hillary? DNC?

From what I can tell from the sites I've seen ... it's all of the above

[floriduh voter]

Remember Steve Martin in THE JERK?

HOWARD'S END

[TheRightGuy]

vote for Bush so Howard can run in 2008

These Deaniacs are truly nuts. The only way Howard even gets close to nomination in 08 is if Hillary runs and loses big in 04.

[VadeRetro]

These people are angry at Dean for dropping out and some were asking why since he was ahead of Edwards in the delegate count.

That's easy. Money. Dean blew his 40 mil, never got a win, and the input dried up. The money pile went negative and the show was over.

[prairiebreeze]

Haaa! More than enough blame to go around then. heh

Prairie

[Mo1]

Oh ... and they don't like the DLC either *L*

[Phantom Lord]

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[Phantom Lord]

Note to Howard Dean: Property of Rush Limbaugh

[fella]

a commercial that said, "Health insurance premiums have gone up 800% because of malpractice lawyers like John Edwards waging frivilous law suits against good doctors. When doctors have to pay $40 million dollars, those costs are passed on to you, the average american trying to make ends meet. John Edwards wants you to think he's one of the little guys -- and then it cut to cut after cut of JE saying, "My daddy worked in a mill" -- Since when does the little guy make $40 million dollars on the backs of Americans?

What a great idea.

[CFC__VRWC]

This just proves something that we got little glimpses of throughout Dean's candidacy - his supporters are a bunch of slack-jawed, glaasy-eyed potheads who don't know doodly-squat about the mechanics of running a successful political campaign. They're enraged about their guy "selling out" to the Rat "Establishment" and just can't grasp that if Dean tells the establishment to bugger off, any slim hopes he may have of being a viable candidate in 2008 would be dead, dead, dead. He and his supporters would be reduced to fringe LaRouche-type whack jobs whose only influence in the Rat party would be heckling the real candidates at future debates and policy speeches. As much as they rail against the Washington insiders, they really need them, especially when the party is under the iron fist of the Clintons.

[PhiKapMom]

On their way!

[PhiKapMom]

There are a bunch of negatives on Hillary but they were not picked out as best of the best. They detest her, CNN, Fox news, DNC, mcAuliffe, DLC, and the media in general. It is hilarious to read their comments.

[PhiKapMom]

Thanks for adding that the thread -- this is a keeper!

[PhiKapMom]

Been monitoring his site so to speak and was amazed at the lack of political savvy I saw on there. These people honestly thought they were going to run the campaign and tell Howard Dean what to do and what to say.

When he doesn't take their advice, they get mad. Never have seen anything like it. A lot of them were first time voters they said and one was in his 60's.

Decided that some folks would be better off not voting after being on there the last couple of months.

[PhiKapMom]

Had the same reaction as you did!

My first thought when I saw that last night was -- Commercial for Bush-Cheney '04!

[PhiKapMom]

Way to go! Rush gets blamed for everything by the Deaniacs! Last night a few of them were actually praising Rush for saying something to the effect that Dean didn't belong in the Dem Party. It was funny!

[texasflower]

This is terrific! Those poor kids are finding out what real life is aren't they?

Hopefully they will eventually turn to the Republican party.

[CFC__VRWC]

Been monitoring his site so to speak and was amazed at the lack of political savvy I saw on there.

There was a post here a few weeks back from a Freeper in Iowa or New Hampshire who was "helping" Dean by organizing a strategy meeting with local Deaniacs and trying to walk them through the basics of conducting a primary campaign (Door Knocking 101). He said that he may as well have been speaking Attic Greek, these people were so clueless. Not only that, they were totally uninterested in even trying to learn how to mobilize support for their candidate - all they wanted to do is sit around and tell each other how much of a Nazi Bush was. These are the kind of people Kerry and Edwards want working for their campaigns?

[general_re]

"Excellent..."

[blackie]

Wow ~ good stuff PhiKapMom ~ thanks!

[hchutch]

Some voting directly for Dubya, others taking their efforts to the Green Party.

The anti-Dean efforts will hobble the Dems. There are a lot more of the anti-war types than there are folks ticked off at Bush. Dean might not run, but the Green Party may be a factor.

[Poohbah]

Damn. It's like a negative image of FR's malcontents.

[mathluv]

As Rush said yesterday, Deanies had the passion. There is none for any of the others.

[windchime]

"Some comments I have seen on here against Pres Bush were the same I was reading last night. Very interesting to say the least!"

Yes, interesting!

A Tinfoil Theory:

The following comments were not in the Dean speech on his site, but he made them at the same time he made the address.

-He is no longer 'actively' seeking the presidency
-His name will remain on primary ballots
-He encouraged his supporters to vote for him

He may be doing what he can in his financially depleted condition to position himself in case a vacuum develops before or at the convention. HRC is positioning for the same vacuum, but Dean thinks he can trump her with his delegates.

[windchime]

More fun from NewsMax:

Deaniacs In a Funk, Want to Secede from U.S.

[hchutch]

Yup. Gonna be hard to motivate them to go for anyone who voted for war.

I might want to risk a venture to DU to see what sort of firefights are going on there (in the cyber sense, not the literal sense).

[Sofa King]

Remember, these are the fringe, and they're probably full of crap anyway. Most of Dean's supporters will vote for Kerry. They've been trained to vote how they're told to; principle is a foreign concept.