Bush for Constitutional Ban on Gay Marriage-Source

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[Right_in_Virginia]

How about a Constitutional ban on activist judges making up new "rights".

Isn't this alreay spelled out in the US Constitution?

How about we start impeaching judges who refuse to follow the Consitution?

[jmc813]

what is needed is the Constitution Restoration Act of 2004 (S. 2082), which was introduced last week and co-sponsored by Senator Zell Miller.

Do you have any links to FR threads regarding this Act?

[concerned about politics]

"We were told by Karl Rove that the president would support the constitutional amendment -- not just that he would endorse it but also that he would fight for it," Buchanan said.

He's a good man. America was built on the family unit. Mom, dad, and apple pie.

Imagine being raised by freaks, and the other kids had a real family. They'd talk about their loving mom and dad, and you'd talk about your parents riding each other in the back yard. The other kids would think you were talking about your dogs.

[concerned about politics]

He didn't create Eve to be a reproductive partner, he created Eve to be a "helpmate".

Yes he did. He told them to be fruitful and multiply, and subdue the earth. He also told humans to have lots of kids. That leaves the fetishist out.

[cyncooper]

President Bush's political director has told a group of prominent conservatives that the president would soon publicly endorse a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.

Why is this a surprise?

Contrary to the implication that the president has reacted to the Massachusetts and San Francisco situations, he spoke of a Constitutional amendment in his SOTU Address. That was BEFORE those two events.

He clearly has always been for the amendment if activists acted contrary to law, and the fact that he was the first to speak about it signalled his resolve to lead on it.

[jgrubbs]

Do you have any links to FR threads regarding this Act?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1077826/posts

[k2blader]

Can't wait to hear the words from the Prez himself.

[cyncooper]

I hope this news is true, but I've got to hear it straight from him to believe it.

State of the Union Address

January 20, 2004

EXCERPT:

A strong America must also value the institution of marriage. I believe we should respect individuals as we take a principled stand for one of the most fundamental, enduring institutions of our civilization. Congress has already taken a stand on this issue by passing the Defense of Marriage Act, signed in 1996 by President Clinton. That statute protects marriage under federal law as a union of a man and a woman, and declares that one state may not redefine marriage for other states.

Activist judges, however, have begun redefining marriage by court order, without regard for the will of the people and their elected representatives. On an issue of such great consequence, the people's voice must be heard. If judges insist on forcing their arbitrary will upon the people, the only alternative left to the people would be the constitutional process. Our nation must defend the sanctity of marriage. (Applause.)

~snip~

There ya go.

[conserv13]

marriage is about children. Homosexuals are about sexual gratification. short and sweet.

I disagree. I am an adopted straight guy, my straight parents could not conceive. If marriage was just about children, then was theirs bad? I know a gay couple who adopted a child and they are a happy normal family.

[davidosborne]

** ACTION ALERT ** SUPPORT S.J.RES.26 (7 Co-Sponsors) ** H.J.RES.56 (112 Co-Sponsors)

[cyncooper]

When Bush says it and uses his political muscle to push it then I'll be happy.

See my #68.

And before you cry about him not using political muscle yet (I want it all and I want it NOW!), he gave his SOTU Address before the Massachussetts Supremes made their ruling, and of course before San Francisco went nuts.

He is not divine ruler and cannot "make them stop" all by himself, but he has most certainly made it known he'll lead the charge on this issue. And he will.

[jmc813]

Thanks for the link.

[cyncooper]

Kinda spiteful of Bush to prevent his VP's daughter from settling down with her significant other.

And how, pray tell, is he preventing that?

[King Black Robe]

Yeah well talk is cheap. Republicans went to the primary polls in droves to stop McCain over the CFR issue. Then what happened? I will wait until his words are stronger and his actions match them. No more sucker votes from me.

[cyncooper]

Yeah well talk is cheap.

I already addressed that argument and pointed out its flaws.

[King Black Robe]

Yeah well talk is cheap. I already addressed that argument and pointed out its flaws.

Remind me. Besides, my vote is my vote. I am simply telling you what I need to see and hear to vote for Bush. You can have a lower standard if you want to.

[quadrant]

I wish President Bush had endorsed the Constitutional amendment banning same sex marriages before now.
However, I know that in politics timing is critical.
I hope I am correct in my supposition that President Bush is waiting for the issue to reach a citical mass before he gets involved personally in the issue.

Getting this amendment passed the Congress and ratified by the states is going to be difficult.
Intellectuals, the political left, the homosexual lobby, a large part of the Democratic Party, the liberal clergy, and the mainstream media will oppose, and they have great resources on which to draw.
I hope President Bush is carefully marshalling support be-
cause as soon as he announces his decision to support the amendment, fire will be trained on him.
I hope those of you who are in favor of this amendment understand that it will take a widespread grassroots effort to pass this amendment.
I hope you have the heart for the fight.
I can promise you that opponents have the heart, the willingness, and the means to fight you.

[cyncooper]

I am simply telling you what I need to see and hear to vote for Bush. You can have a lower standard if you want to.

Excuse me, but you precisely stated you needed to *hear* from Bush himself that he was for the amendment. I graciously provided just one item of evidence indicating it.

I pointed out he used political muscle, which you also spoke of desiring to see, by addressing it in the SOTU which had him taking the issue head-on.

He continues to lead the conservative voice on the issue. He cannot singlehandledly fix it for you.

[cyncooper]

See #68.

[King Black Robe]

I am pleased with what he said in the SOTU address. If you read my earlier post, I told you that that is not enough for me. I trusted words on the CFR issue and got burned. He has not said he supports the FMA yet. I want that, and I want to see real effort at getting it passed. The end.

Go ahead and get as snippy as you like. I've drawn my line in the sand and you will never change my mind.