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Candice Gingrich vs. Jerry Falwell on Hannity now
Hannity ^ | 2/19/04 | WinOne

Posted on 02/19/2004 12:24:30 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper

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Was that sarcasm I detected in Candice's voice after Falwell told her that God loves her?
21 posted on 02/19/2004 12:58:08 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Just because you cause confusion every time you open your mouth, that doesn't make you intellectual.)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
Yes it was.
22 posted on 02/19/2004 1:00:09 PM PST by Lady Eileen
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To: Lady Eileen
Hey they can celibrate their love all they want to--what I object to is their use of the courts to achieve what they
will NEVER achieve via public referendum. What I object to is some elected official claiming he /she/it wants to be my
represetative in Congress only to turn around and vote in favor of what I believe to be "abomination" and "worthy of
death"Yet claiming to represent me. I am so tired of being
kept like a mushroom.
23 posted on 02/19/2004 1:09:42 PM PST by StonyBurk
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
I guess Hannity hasn't figured out that the more this stuff is discussed in the mainstream, the more acceptable it becomes to the general public. The mere act of accepting the premise of homosexual marriage as a legitimate subject of debate increases its legitimacy as part of the culture. But, hey....as long as it increases ratings and gives Sean a chance to flog his latest book....
24 posted on 02/19/2004 1:16:38 PM PST by clintonh8r (Vietnam veteran against John Kerry.)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
But the bottom line here is that gays have equal rights as everyone else. They can choose to marry people of the opposite sex.

That's a point that I don't hear often enough. They have as much right as you and I to marry. Marriage is the union of a man and a woman, and there's no law preventing any homosexual from marrying someone of the opposite sex. Now, they may choose not to, just as I've chosen not to, as a heterosexual. That's life.

25 posted on 02/19/2004 1:20:06 PM PST by alnick
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
Even if it is conceded that only consenting adults are relevant to the discussion, the gay/lesbian argument will ultimately lead to unintended and ironic consequences.

The gay/lesbian left argues that marriage, as it is today, unfairly imposes a morality, religious parameters...or boundaries. Ironically, they themselves MUST establish NEW boundaries or they will tacitly permit polygamy and incest. The problem for them is this: on what basis, if not morality, can they DENY polygamy and incest? They will be forced to draw an ethical/moral line, just like those they've thumbed their noses at...or, they will be forced to defend a host of acts that we know, instinctively, are repulsive.
26 posted on 02/19/2004 1:21:19 PM PST by macamadamia
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To: clintonh8r
Oh come on. It's an issue. What's Sean supposed to do, stick his head in the sand?

As for his book, I'm for the free enterprise system. Aren't you?
27 posted on 02/19/2004 1:23:35 PM PST by alnick
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
I liked Falwells "Barnyard" comment.
28 posted on 02/19/2004 1:28:04 PM PST by devane617
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To: macamadamia
Th ultimate goal of the militant homosexual community is the elimination of religion in our society. It is only via a religious argument that homosexuality is deemed "bad" or improper. Therefore, git rid of the churches (the bible believing ones) and there is no one left to tell them that what they do is wrong. How will allowing them to marry get rid of churches - if they succeed to get marriage redefined as a civil right for everyone, then they can demand a church to marry them, and when it declines, they will sue them into nonexistence for violating their civil rights. Laugh all you want at this preposterous thought, but did anyone think that we would even be having this debate 25 years ago???
29 posted on 02/19/2004 1:52:19 PM PST by Conservative_Rob
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To: Conservative_Rob
No. And that's one of the things that's really scary about this agenda-pushing.
30 posted on 02/19/2004 1:58:55 PM PST by NCC-1701 (GIVE US BACK LOGO-FREE TV!!!!!)
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To: Conservative_Rob
An interesting column on where we are heading if we do not stop the train of state-sanctioned and protected APPROVAL of homosexual BEHAVIOR right now!





The American Child After Same-Sex Marriage
By Linda Harvey
CNSNews.com Commentary
February 18, 2004

Lesbian bride dolls. Fourth grade "gay" clubs. A king and king at the high school prom. Dating tips for same-sex teens. Bathroom ogling -- and sometimes quick encounters -- in the middle school boys' restroom.
These are just the first snapshots of the bizarre new world in store for American children if homosexual marriage is legalized.
Most of the major players who mold our youth have already endorsed homosexuality and even cross-dressing. The National Education Association, the nation's largest teachers' union, favors support for "gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender" students and teachers, which translates into uncritical acceptance throughout the curriculum at your local school.
Ditto with the American Federation of Teachers, the American School Health Association, and the National Association of School Psychologists. The American Association of School Administrators is firmly on board, and the National School Boards Association featured a glowing article in a recent newsletter about the great benefits of "gay" clubs in schools.
The Big Brothers/Big Sisters, Girl Scouts, 4H and the Boys Clubs/Girls Clubs all have adopted policies against discrimination based on sexual orientation, as have most local public school districts in the United States.
Only the Boys Scouts have held off, and have dearly paid the price as homosexual pressure groups try to cut off their funding and bar them from meeting in schools. Once same-sex marriage is the law of the land, any group or school that does not support "equality" and full acceptance of homosexual behavior will be the targets of similar wrath - as well as defendants in lawsuits.
Once legal, these trendy new marriage "rights" are likely to trump any constitutional guarantees of free speech and religious liberty, and local parents who weren't paying attention will watch helplessly as their children are brainwashed - and seduced - into the new behaviors. The practice of bisexuality, currently popular among teens, will skyrocket.
The pro-homosexual agenda directed to children is under way now on a limited scale; all that prevents the tidal wave from sweeping over every child in our country is the official endorsement marriage would provide.
Groups like GLSEN (the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network) and PFLAG (Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays) have helped start some 2,000 homosexual clubs in American schools. Most are at the high school level, with a few emerging in middle schools. GLSEN's goal is to establish clubs in as many elementary schools as possible using the rationale that these students, who they imply were probably born this way, need "support systems" to avoid harassment and discrimination.
Yet both GLSEN and PFLAG advocate book selections for youth that include positive portrayals of homosexual sex between boys, pornography use, cheating on a spouse with a homosexual lover, homosexual sex between underage youth and adults, and straight and "gay" experimentation by "uncertain" youth.
If homosexual marriage becomes equal to heterosexual unions, then equal opportunities for same-sex and opposite-sex socializing and dating must be made available to youth to avoid accusations of "discrimination." And so more experimentation - with approval by enlightened adults - can be expected to follow.
School literature will be adopted to reflect a positive view of the homosexual family as a future option for every child. Josh will learn that he can grow up and marry a girl or a boy. And since at age 6 he probably hasn't yet discovered his sexual "identity," the fair thing will be to present all angles to him in language, health, music and social studies.
The new wave of openly homosexual teachers, more than willing to fill any teacher shortages in order to interact with budding youth, are sure to help with this increased workload.
But the new paradigm won't dissolve at the schoolhouse door. Television and film, already dominated by sexual minority sympathizers, will introduce creative expressions of the new equality. Children's cartoons will present gender-bending super-heroes. Cross-dressers, feminized boys and masculine girls will appear regularly on Nickelodeon and popular sit-coms. Disney films are sure to be in front of this trend.
In the toy department, shoppers may find new "gay and lesbian" friends of Barbie and Ken, who will probably split up their long romance until group relationships for youth become the next inevitability.
And we could go on and on. The point is, with aggressive, well-funded homosexual activists already in key positions of influence in the media, education, academia and entertainment, "gay" marriage will be their turnkey to launch a brave new world for kids. Too bad so many of our children will have no choice but to live there.
(Linda Harvey heads a group that monitors the homosexual agenda directed toward youth.)


31 posted on 02/19/2004 2:06:44 PM PST by maica (World Peace starts with W)
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To: Conservative_Rob
How will allowing them to marry get rid of churches - if they succeed to get marriage redefined as a civil right for everyone, then they can demand a church to marry them, and when it declines, they will sue them into nonexistence for violating their civil rights.

Reminds me of a story a pastor friend told me. One day a woman showed up at the church and wanted him to marry her daughter and her daughter's fiancee. He didnt know them and they didnt want counsueling, etc. so he refused. She said, "Well, I guess if you saw a car wreck on the side of the road you wouldnt stop to help either." "Ma'am," He said, "are you sure you want to compare your daughter's future marriage to a car wreck?"

Snappy.

32 posted on 02/19/2004 2:08:07 PM PST by SquirrelKing (A vote for John Kerry is a vote for Jane Fonda.)
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To: alnick
They have as much right as you and I to marry.

I was screaming this at my radio. We DO have equal rights. That the rights they have don't make them happy, is not a good enough reason to change something so fundamental to society.

If I were in charge of the universe, the first thing I would do is nullify all legal rights and obligations gained by cohabitating heterosexuals. If you don't make the commitment, you shouldn't get the benefit OR pay the consequences. That, obviously, would mean children conceived outside wedlock lose legal protection. It would be a damn shame, but it is consistent and might bring some restraint to our citizens.

33 posted on 02/19/2004 2:14:26 PM PST by Dianna
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To: clintonh8r
The mere act of accepting the premise of homosexual marriage as a legitimate subject of debate increases its legitimacy as part of the culture. But, hey....as long as it increases ratings and gives Sean a chance to flog his latest book

He just had on Peter Jennings. Didn't get to hear it but it seemed to be a kiss-a$$ session. Now that's really giving legitimacy.

34 posted on 02/19/2004 3:11:11 PM PST by Digger
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To: Bluntpoint
LOL! Where do you find this s#!t?
35 posted on 02/19/2004 3:47:02 PM PST by raybbr (My 1.4 cents - It used to be 2 cents, but after taxes - you get the idea.)
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This s#!t is all over the net. Open up my email: s#!t. Go to my homepage: s#!t. Bid on ebay: s#!t.

This s#!t just never ends.

36 posted on 02/19/2004 3:53:38 PM PST by Bluntpoint
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bump
37 posted on 02/19/2004 8:06:49 PM PST by foreverfree
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