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Just when did John Ashcroft join the Nazi Party?
WorldNetDaily ^ | 30 January 2004 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 02/19/2004 5:10:55 PM PST by MegaSilver

Over the holidays, I had the opportunity to visit with some of my more progressive friends in Kansas City, and several alerted me to a rather scary development: U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft has become a Nazi – "another Hitler" as one fretfully described our former governor and senator.

This all came as news to me. Although I do not know Ashcroft personally, I did sit next to him at a dinner just a few years ago, and he exhibited no signs of latent Nazism: no heel-clicking or arm-thrusting, no anti-Semitic slurs or "sieg heils," no quiet yearnings for the Fatherland. I wondered, too, how a man of such presumed extremes could manage to win five statewide races in America's most indicative state.

Still, I could not just dismiss those alarms. At least, three of my friendly Cassandras were prominent Missourians. Perhaps they knew something I did not. To test their suspicions, I did a quick online search and got a jolt of confirmation. Some 18,400 web postings link "Ashcroft" and "Nazi," at least two-thirds of which accuse Ashcroft of being a Nazi.

"Americans have every right to be up in arms against John and his Patriot Act," reads a typical online jeremiad. "Many of us have been warning that it is a deadly assault on constitutional rights – part of the broad fascistic pattern of the Bush junta."

Another blames Congress for letting "Ashcroft walk all over the Constitution without stirring from their somnambulance as he and his gang of nazi-fascists began implementing Patriot II." One site serves as an unofficial Ashcroft songbook. It posts the lyrics of more than 70 songs, all of which alert the innocent to the suspected reign of terror at Justice. Indeed, it must have taken an act of deep courage to pen a ditty like "The Obnoxious Right Wing Nazi Pig Dog From Missouri" (sung to tune of "Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy") knowing that the aforementioned "pig dog" was creating "Dachaus" for his political opponents.

I could not write off these suspicions as mere Internet blather. On one even more damning site, America's "most trusted man," the still-living Walter Cronkite, denounced Ashcroft as the "Torquemada of American law." Torquemada was the proto-fascist responsible, according to Cronkite, for the unholy methods of the Spanish Inquisition, "including torture and the burning of heretics – Muslims in particular." Egads! No wonder my friends were upset.

To be fair, progressives do not upset easily. During World War I, the Espionage and Sedition Acts allowed Woodrow Wilson's progressive administration to prosecute those reckless enough to voice anti-war sentiments. Socialist presidential candidate Eugene Debs spent 10 years in prison as a result. He was one of 2,000 so prosecuted. During World War II, the always progressive FDR interned – by executive order – 120,000 ethnic Japanese with the full-throated support of the American Civil Liberties Union. The even more progressive Eleanor wanted to draft the entire nation.

My progressive friends uphold that finely tuned tradition of situational libertarianism even today. Although sensitive to civil rights, they are hardly squeamish about them. When, for instance, Ashcroft's predecessor as attorney general, Janet Reno, launched a tank assault on a religious community outside of Waco, killing 80 people – more than half of them minorities, 20 of them children – my friends kept silent. They understand that governments sometimes have to break a few eggs to sustain the omelet of orderly government. Ditto when Reno sent her troopers to liberate Elian at gunpoint from his Miami family and send him back to Cuba where, unlike America, no little boy goes without health coverage.

Closer to home, my friends prudently held their tongues when Missouri's Democrat Attorney General Jay Nixon imprisoned 15 so-called "paper terrorists" in the late '90s for conspiring to place a lien on the house of a state judge. Seven years in a state penitentiary may seem a little tough for a lien that was immediately expunged, but our local progressives understood that a line had to be drawn before these terrorists moved from paper to some more durable substance.

Given their historically measured response to issues of national security, I had to take my friends' outsized anxieties about John Ashcroft seriously. So I decided to do a little investigating. How, I wondered, had Ashcroft managed to impose a law as frightening as the USA-Patriot Act on the American people? Attorneys general, I reasoned, are supposed to follow the law, not make it.

Here is where things got sticky. It seems that Ashcroft did not exactly make the law. Nor did Bush issue the Patriot Act as an executive order. As it happens, in October 2001 Sens. Clinton, Kerry, Edwards, Lieberman, Kennedy and 93 of their colleagues resoundingly passed the Patriot Act through the Senate and into the law books for Ashcroft to enforce. The final Senate count, in fact, was 98 to 1.

I also learned that the federal courts, even the liberal ones, have in almost every case supported Ashcroft's interpretation of the anti-terrorism policy he was enforcing. Were the courts also part of this fascist junta, I wondered? As to the most subversive of Ashcroft's tools, the library-snooping Section 215, this section of the act does not even mention libraries and has never been invoked in any case.

One other detail confused me. From what I learned in my investigation, Nazis are "National Socialists," big-government statists with a fondness for eugenics, vegetarianism, leather, and the homoerotic trappings of Germany's pagan past. What the Nazis did not much cotton to were smoking, gun ownership and people of faith – Christians as well as Jews

In checking Ashcroft's senate record, however, I discovered that the American Conservative Union had awarded him a 98 percent rating. The rating acknowledged Ashcroft's consistent votes in support of small, decentralized government, gun rights, America's Judaeo-Christian traditions, Israel, "life" in all its manifestations and even big tobacco.

Something wasn't clicking here. In inquiring more deeply, I learned that his opponents had begun to label Ashcroft a "Nazi" even before Sept. 11, indeed even before he was confirmed as attorney general. The one scribe who had warned of another Dachau wrote tellingly, "We tried to stop this religious fanatic fundamentalist from ever getting the job."

Walter Cronkite was only slightly more circumspect. "What makes this administration's legal bloodthirstiness particularly alarming," he writes in his denunciation of Ashcroft, "is the almost religious zeal that seems to drive it." Even the composer of "The Obnoxious Right Wing Nazi Pig Dog From Missouri" penned his immortal lyrics before 9-11, due largely to Ashcroft's unapologetic Christianity and the lyricist's phobia about the same.

The celebrated wordsmith Jesse Jackson helped me understand progressive logic as it applies to a traditional Christian like Ashcroft. "In South Africa, we call it apartheid," warns Jackson. "In Nazi Germany, we'd call it fascism. Here in the United States, we call it conservatism."

As I learned, the equation between such diametrically opposed philosophies as conservatism and Nazism has a specific provenance. Before Pearl Harbor American conservatives generally opposed American entry into World War II. So did America's communists. At the time, the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany were allies. As brutal totalitarian states they had a lot in common, including their respective halves of Poland.

In May 1941, however, Nazi Germany turned on the Soviet Union, and the sophisticated Soviet propaganda machine turned on America's conservatives. From the Soviet perspective, anyone who continued to resist America's entry into the war had to be a fascist, and so was born the "brown smear."

As I began to see, the smear has outlived the Soviet Union and continues to mutate. Contemporary progressives now consciously extend it to serious Christianity. Through relentless media propaganda they have made a direct connection – in their own minds at least – from Adolf Hitler to "the Church Lady" and are now busy scaring themselves with their own mindless stereotypes.

That's a shame. No administration in world history has handled an internal threat of this magnitude with so much respect for civil liberties. No one has even come close. Hell, even Abraham Lincoln suspended habeas corpus during the Civil War.

The Patriot Act and its offshoots are far from perfect, but at least Ashcroft is using the laws he has been handed against real terrorists, not "paper" ones. He does not deserve such absurd abuse, especially from people who would have scrapped the whole dang Constitution had the perpetrators of Sept. 11 worshipped the same God as John Ashcroft.

Jack Cashill is an Emmy-award winning independent writer and producer with a Ph.D. in American Studies from Purdue.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aclu; ashcroft; doj; johnashcroft; liars; liberals; smear
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1 posted on 02/19/2004 5:10:55 PM PST by MegaSilver
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To: MegaSilver
Hmm,I think it highly unlikely that John Ashcroft would join the National SOCIALIST Party!

The Nazi's were left wing, not right.

3 posted on 02/19/2004 5:14:20 PM PST by Wil H
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To: Wil H
That doesn't fit in with what I hear in liberal screeds...according to them, just about everyone on the right is a Nazi.
4 posted on 02/19/2004 5:16:50 PM PST by GiveEmDubya (The Democrats: Working Hard to Create a Perpetual Leftopia)
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To: Wil H
I don't know if that is actually correct, Nazi is an English twist on the acronym of the German National Socialist Worker's Party.
5 posted on 02/19/2004 5:21:14 PM PST by olde north church (American's aren't more violent, we're just better shots!!!)
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To: William Creel
A German Socialist calls President Bush "Hitler like".

The ADL is accusing Mel Gibson of making Christians become "Hitler".

There is no doubt in my mind that if the clintons could have gotten away with it they would have indeed "done-in" the "Right" in this nation. Look at how much the left hates President Bush.

The "right" never came close to this kind of hate of BJClinton.
6 posted on 02/19/2004 5:23:16 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: MegaSilver
To be fair, progressives do not upset easily.

"Howls of derisive laughter, Bruce!"

Being upset with imaginary or overblown problems is all that they do.

7 posted on 02/19/2004 5:23:35 PM PST by Riley
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To: MegaSilver
Excellent article and post. I'm sending it to my delusional lib "friends". Somehow we've got to stop what I call the "marginalization movement" by libs and their media cohorts to characterize anything or any one conservative as pathological, fanatical and evil.
8 posted on 02/19/2004 5:25:36 PM PST by Rennes Templar
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To: MegaSilver
John Ashcroft is a tremendous AG. The writer has slam dunked the left. Sigh, will they ever stop?

MoodyBlu

9 posted on 02/19/2004 5:26:26 PM PST by MoodyBlu
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To: MegaSilver
Mega, even here on FR you'll find dolts who believe John Ashcroft's is the Devil. Insane.

He's a good man doing an extremely tough job. God bless him.

10 posted on 02/19/2004 5:34:01 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: MegaSilver
Ashcroft hasn't even shut down their disease-factory-bath houses or their NAMBLA organizations so why do liberals think Ashcroft is some kind of nazi out to stomp out all of their recreation?
11 posted on 02/19/2004 5:46:56 PM PST by Jim_Curtis (Free Milosevic)
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To: Riley; MegaSilver
To be fair, progressives do not upset easily.

What was that Dean thing then? Oh, yeah, .....EEeeYAaaaaaaa!

12 posted on 02/19/2004 5:52:16 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Just mythoughts
'Hitler' has been very popular with the left since Bush was elected.
13 posted on 02/19/2004 5:56:01 PM PST by tbpiper
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To: tbpiper
Followers of Stalin want to keep Hitler as the most evil.

We have entered the twilight zone.
14 posted on 02/19/2004 5:59:59 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Jim_Curtis
Ashcroft hasn't even shut down their disease-factory-bath houses or their NAMBLA organizations so why do liberals think Ashcroft is some kind of nazi out to stomp out all of their recreation?

Well, I hate to use this analogy, but at the risk of being called a homophobe, here goes.

I heard a quote once that, "The more you assert that someone of your gender 'must be GAY!' the higher the chance is that you're HOPING they're gay--for one reason or another."

There could be a number of reasons why one would want to paint a member of their gender as a homosexual. One is that said malicer is, him/herself, harboring secret homosexual desires, and this is the only way he/she can appease them without letting anyone know.

Another is that said person fears that he/she might be gay or that others might think he/she is gay, and wants to take the speculation off of him/herself--and does so by picking on another person. When I was a kid, this was a common characteristic of what we then called schoolyard bullies: projecting their insecurities and frustrations on other kids in the form of demeaning insults and/or physical blows.

The schoolyard bully, in its adult form, is better known as a member of the Democratic Party. Terry McAuliffe, et. al. know that their worldview has many eerie parallels with that of the Fascist worldview (once thought to have been vanquished), and out of fear that the good voters of Middle America will discover this, they quickly rush to paint conservatives and Republicans as Nazis and Fascists.

It's funny to watch, and it may win them a few elections here and there, but goodness knows how long they can keep this up before the truth comes out.

15 posted on 02/19/2004 6:00:14 PM PST by MegaSilver
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To: tbpiper
should be twilight
16 posted on 02/19/2004 6:00:29 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: All
Liberals in this country don't have a clue what the NSDAP really stood for otherwise they'd never bring them up.
17 posted on 02/19/2004 6:01:25 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: William Creel
Nut Alert.
18 posted on 02/19/2004 6:03:22 PM PST by devane617
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To: Wil H
The Nazis weren't socialist the way Sweden is socialist. Far from it. Something is getting lost in the translation here.

As for the point of the article, leftists have always referred to conservatives as "Nazis". The only thing that's new is the fervency of their slander, but we know how radicalized the left has become and how much they hate Bush and everyone in his administration.

What makes Ashcroft such a target is his religious faith, as the article points out.

19 posted on 02/19/2004 6:03:53 PM PST by Batrachian
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To: MegaSilver
Whenever these freaks complain about Ashcroft, I smile and remind them that if Democrat vote fraud hadn't denied him the office he sought in 2000, he'd still one of a hundred senators instead of their poster boy for the Third Reich.
20 posted on 02/19/2004 6:10:54 PM PST by Tall_Texan ((Tagline withheld pending notification of next of kin))
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To: Nathaniel Fischer
L O L!
22 posted on 02/19/2004 6:20:31 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: MegaSilver
Eugene Debs was sentenced to ten years in prison, but was released before completing three years. He was pardoned by Warren G. Harding in time to spend Christmas 1921 with his family.

By the way, John W. Dean was on C-SPAN the other day as part of a panel of people who have written biographies of U.S. Presidents; he has a new book out on Warren G. Harding. I don't know whether it is worth reading.

23 posted on 02/19/2004 6:24:28 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: MegaSilver
I can't seem to connect your thoughts which might mean that you are much brighter than I am. Please dumb it down for me so that I might understand it.
24 posted on 02/19/2004 6:28:59 PM PST by Jim_Curtis (Free Milosevic)
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To: COEXERJ145
I heard the following (approximate) phone call on C-SPAN one morning a couple of weeks ago:

Caller(young female Deaniac): I don't trust Kerry because he's 'Skull and Bones' like Bush.
Steve Scully: What's the problem with "Skull and Bones"?
Deaniac: They're all Nazis.
Steve: Nazis?
Deaniac: You know, big business and industry and stuff like that.

The left has succeeded in eliminating the teaching of any meaningful history in this country, and these idiots are cancelling out our votes.

25 posted on 02/19/2004 6:31:15 PM PST by Morgan's Raider
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To: Tall_Texan
Ditto that! They caused their own problems.
26 posted on 02/19/2004 6:36:00 PM PST by Big Giant Head ( < / something or other>)
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To: Morgan's Raider
Sounds about right. When I took a class entitled "The History of Nazi Germany" last semester (after waiting 5 years to take it) the first week was spent discussing how the term "Nazi" has been rendered meaningless in this day and age because it is use by people of every ideology to describe someone in the opposition. It has become nothing more than a cheap insult that the uneducated masses throw out whenever they need a quick out of a lost argument.

From the Liberal Dictionary

Racist/Bigot/Homophobe/Nazi/Fascist- Anyone winning an argument against a liberal

27 posted on 02/19/2004 6:48:09 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: Just mythoughts
"The "right" never came close to this kind of hate of BJClinton."


Speak for yourself. I recall the airwaves being very heated for most of Clintax's Administration, with good reason obviously.

Me? I never hated Clinton. I mean, after the whole Gennifer Flowers ordeal of '92, you pretty much knew what the guy was all about. I had more disdain for the electorate who put him into power, than I did the man himself. I always felt that 'we knew what we were getting' (to quote myself) with Clinton.

But Gore? That lying piece of shi7? That man I came as close to hating as you can for someone you'll never actually meet.
28 posted on 02/19/2004 6:50:08 PM PST by Blzbba
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To: Morgan's Raider
I remember that call! I just for once would like to hear a commentator ask the caller what the society stands for, actually not regurgitating the media message.
29 posted on 02/19/2004 6:52:37 PM PST by olde north church (American's aren't more violent, we're just better shots!!!)
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To: Blzbba
Your usage of your "hate" I call righteous indignation.

There is a huge difference in that and "insane hate".

The left's hate of President Bush has no moral basis and your righteous indignation (hate) is because clinton and algore have no morals.



30 posted on 02/19/2004 7:13:46 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: COEXERJ145
The reason that the left uses the word "nazi" is because it effectively paralyzes their target.

For example, if I'm an "artist" that wants more NEA funding, I can achieve this by calling Bush "anti-art nazi"...Bush in return will show that he isn't an anti-art nazi by giving more money to the NEA.

or, I could say "Bush is an anti-homosexual nazi"...now I can illegally issue permits for gay marriage while Bush sits back paralyzed from taking action lest he "prove my point".

or, I can bypass the whole issue oriented angle and just call someone a "Nazi!" and this person will become paralyzed from taking any kind of action at all.

...the appropriate response is to step up your actions and make them scream louder and use a decibel meter to guage your success.
31 posted on 02/19/2004 7:15:15 PM PST by Jim_Curtis (Free Milosevic)
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To: GiveEmDubya
That doesn't fit in with what I hear in liberal screeds...according to them, just about everyone on the right is a Nazi.

Exactly, they accuse the Republicans of being racist even though they emancipated the slaves and championed civil rights.

They call them intolerant although they are the ones that stifle any dissent.

They deflect criticism by accusing their opponents of their own faults.

The Nazis promoted "Leibensraum", "Strength through Joy", the "Hitler Youth," and the "People's Car" (Volkswagen) - hardly right wing ideology..

Don't confuse totalitarianism with right wing thinking, totalitarianism can come from either side - just look at Stalin.

...are you getting the picture?

32 posted on 02/19/2004 7:28:44 PM PST by Wil H
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To: GiveEmDubya
according to them, just about everyone on the right is a Nazi

That's probably because in today's world, you would have to move right of them to find the Nazi party...

33 posted on 02/19/2004 7:31:24 PM PST by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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To: Rennes Templar
Dont forget to mention that Ashcroft wouldn't be AG had he been elected to the senate. 'Im still with Mel' the bumper stickers read as Missouri elected a dead man to the US Senate. I am not so sure that he met the residency requirements...
34 posted on 02/19/2004 8:04:59 PM PST by LearnsFromMistakes (Abortion is the law of the land. Remind me - what was the number on that bill in congress?)
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To: William Creel
Yep. It's almost like we woke up in bizarro-world. AG Ashcroft is absolutely, positively, make-no-mistake, the kind of guy we want for the job. "We" meaning God-fearing, patriotic Americans. I suppose if one is rooting for Al-Queda.... it's a bit different.
35 posted on 02/19/2004 9:02:14 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: Verginius Rufus
Thanks for the headsup. I googled up a review of Dean's book and it looks like it is mostly early bio and political, which isn't too surprising, I guess.

The thing with Harding, though, is the Harding family's legal clamp on correspondence between Harding and a woman in Ohio he was supposedly having an affair with, alongside Nan Britton whom he allegedly boffed in the White House, on a train, and out of town.

Unless the reviewer skipped all that, which I doubt, the Harding book is a dry as John Dean's demeanor. We want Mo!
36 posted on 02/19/2004 9:32:30 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: Jim_Curtis
The Democratic Party has fascist undertones. Afraid that the voters might discover them, they rush to paint them on the Republicans to draw attention away from themselves--not unlike schoolyard bullies beating up little kids to hide their own insecurities.
37 posted on 02/20/2004 4:54:57 AM PST by MegaSilver
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To: Jim_Curtis; All
The other appropriate response is to ask them if they know what a "Nazi" is, and then when they give a loose definition including "Fascism," ask them what Fascism is.

And watch them trip over themselves.
38 posted on 02/20/2004 4:58:29 AM PST by MegaSilver
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To: MegaSilver
"situational liberalism"

The best line in the article. It shows that LEFTISTS (they're NOT liberals) don't even have any core beliefs when it comes to their own "liberalism."
39 posted on 02/20/2004 5:07:46 AM PST by MrB
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To: Morgan's Raider
The left has succeeded in eliminating the teaching of any meaningful history in this country, and these idiots are cancelling out our votes.

You're right about the teaching of history. I was thinking, too, about all the furor (exhaustively documented on other threads!) about Mel Gibson's father "minimizing" the Holocaust. It seems to me that the left's pattern of denigrating everyone with whom you disagree as a "Nazi" is just as bad. I'm sure that Holocaust survivors, at least, can distinguish the difference. I'd love to ask the next liberal who pulls this trick: do you really compare your political disagreements with this individual to the Holocaust? You think those two events are morally equivalent? To disagree with you is just as bad as to have participated in the Holocaust? Talk about having no shame!

40 posted on 02/20/2004 5:09:05 AM PST by GraceCoolidge
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To: gcruse
Dean talked about how as a boy he had delivered newspapers on the street where the Hardings had lived, so he must have grown up in Marion, Ohio, and that could be why he was sufficiently interested in Harding to write a book about him. He mentioned love letters Harding had written to another woman with whom he had had an affair...it is possible that Nan Britton never had an affair with Harding, but had access to those love letters and made up a story on the basis of what she had learned from them. The love letters didn't come to light until much later, and some material is still off-limits to researchers.
41 posted on 02/20/2004 5:18:05 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: MegaSilver
at the risk of being called a homophobe

One should not worry about such trivial risks. I have come to find that if they want to call you one, they will regardless of how hard someone tries to avoid being called one, nor regardless of how much someone knows themselves not to be one. Nor to be a racist, or a bigot of any kind.

In the eyes of many gay people, since I disagree with their form of alternative lifestyle, I am therefore a homophobe. Note I did not say all, just many. I can accept this. After all I am not interested in changing the way they think or feel. It's a free country, however, my demeanor changes just a bit when they call me a "breeder".

So go on, be proud, stand tall and be the homophobe they will make you out to be regardless of your ability to accept them and their lifestyle. For it is they, that cannont accept the fact that you don't quite accept them. Which means they don't accept you either. Confused yet?
42 posted on 02/20/2004 5:25:04 AM PST by grumple (I'm too old to worry about whether or not I'm a pain in your ass...)
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To: COEXERJ145; Jim_Curtis
>>It [Nazi] has become nothing more than a cheap insult that the uneducated masses throw out whenever they need a quick out of a lost argument.

If you are not familiar with Godwin's Law, you should be. It should be invoked every time "John Ashcroft is a Nazi" gets used by Liberal fools.

Godwin's Law
http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/g/Godwin_s_Law.html
43 posted on 02/20/2004 5:29:22 AM PST by FreedomPoster (This space intentionally blank)
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To: Verginius Rufus
He mentioned love letters Harding had written to another woman with whom he had had an affair...it is possible that Nan Britton never had an affair with Harding, but had access to those love letters and made up a story on the basis of what she had learned from them. The love letters didn't come to light until much later, and some material is still off-limits to researchers.

From what I've read, there are a lot of letters that have been researched. The other affair was with a woman named Carrie Phillips who was a family friend of the Hardings, the two couples socialized and vacationed together. The affair has been pretty exhaustively documented. As for Nan Britton, she had a daughter named Marion who apparently was accepted as his own by Harding. Don't forget also that crates and crates of papers were destroyed by Florence Harding after her husband's death; in addition, he'd left instructions for certain private papers to be destroyed by his office assistant, so probably we will never know the whole story. There is a pretty good biography of Florence Harding by Carl Sferraza Anthony that sheds light on some of this stuff.... but now we're getting way off topic on this thread, sorry!

44 posted on 02/20/2004 5:31:50 AM PST by GraceCoolidge
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To: grumple
Confused yet?

Nope, you're making a lot more sense than those who would accuse me of being a homophobe.

And actually, my tongue was planted (somewhat) in cheek with that remark.

45 posted on 02/20/2004 5:38:09 AM PST by MegaSilver
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To: MrB
The best line in the article. It shows that LEFTISTS (they're NOT liberals) don't even have any core beliefs when it comes to their own "liberalism."

I dunno. Read the Unabomber Manifesto and Modern Fascism: Liquidating the Judeo-Christian Worldview. It's fragmented, for sure, but there are ideological underpinings that tie it all together.

46 posted on 02/20/2004 5:39:34 AM PST by MegaSilver
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To: MegaSilver
And actually, my tongue was planted (somewhat) in cheek with that remark.

I was aware of that. Please don't take my comments as being snide. I was just having fun with homophobia. A concept I don't completely understand ;)
47 posted on 02/20/2004 5:50:09 AM PST by grumple (I'm too old to worry about whether or not I'm a pain in your ass...)
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To: grumple
>>After all I am not interested in changing the way they think or feel. It's a free country, however, my demeanor changes just a bit when they call me a "breeder".

FWIW, I've been making arguments with Libs that government encouraging heterosexual family formation with marriage and laws favoring "breeders", is more than justifiable on a societal Darwinism basis. It is much more effective than throwing Biblical arguments at them. Their heads start spinning around and steam comes out there ears; quite amusing.
48 posted on 02/20/2004 6:02:23 AM PST by FreedomPoster (This space intentionally blank)
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To: ThatsAllFolks2
I don't think any politician in history has been compared to Hitler more than H. Clinton.

It's really unfair to Hitler. :)

50 posted on 02/20/2004 6:27:44 AM PST by tbpiper
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