The End of Blackness

FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | February 20, 2004 | Jamie Glazov

[DonnerT]

decontexturalizing events and using ahistoricism

Huh????

[freebacon]

Taking things out of context, altering history for their own agenda basically.

[liberallarry]

The author's quite a woman.

[Lil'freeper]

bookmarked. thanks

[freebacon]

Although I think this issue may be occupying the minds of some blacks to the point of obsession. I think it's beneficial to understand the reasoning of a black person who to some degree is able to transcend cultural tradition in the black community..i.e the idea of oppressive racism ect..

[freebacon]

Although I think this issue may be occupying the minds of some blacks to the point of obsession. I think it's beneficial to understand the reasoning of a black person who to some degree is able to transcend cultural tradition in the black community..i.e the idea of oppressive racism ect..

[Lil'freeper]

Similarly, it is beneficial to remember that "cultural tradition in the black community" is not homogeneously bleak.

Two of the sweetest, most elegant black ladies on earth are in my quilting group- and both are dear friends. One is a chemical engineer, the other is a civil servant. The engineer scraped to put herself through school, the civil servant scraped to put food on the table. Both are of the "old school" culture and will settle for nothing less in their families. The civil servant tells stories of growing up in segregated Baltimore, of how hardship strengthened her family, of how it built her character. She says she's not angry about that chapter of history but thanks the Lord that it is over and that she has every opportunity in the world. She has taught her (brilliant and successful) daughter the same.

The engineer tells stories of dealing with the affirmative action crowd- both those who arrive in the workplace poorly prepared because of racial preferences and those who assume her accomplishments are due to those same preferences. It makes her angry.

The blacks who are obsessed with whites could learn much in my quilt group- by sitting down with another generation and learning those hard-won lessons. They'd learn that not every black American thinks ghetto culture is chic or even remotely clever. They'd learn that not every black American thinks welfare or affirmative action is noble. They'd learn that not every black American thinks old-fashioned values are "white."

[cyborg]

This should be read carefully by every freeper.

[cyborg]

FP: You also make some criticisms of whites. Could you outline a few of them?

Dickerson: Basically, it’s obfuscation, subject-changing, and denial. Whites, being human, cannot neither accept their inheritance of privilege or give it up... Whites want to keep the lion’s share of the goodies as well as their superior status without having to feel badly about themselves, which produces certain types of stupefying, to black people, behaviours.

*** She's really generalizing, and if this her daily experience of white people that's pretty sad. A person's experiences are personal and I can't say I've met too many people with that attitude, not anyone American anyway. I suppose that I can see why she would say that, given the way some threads in FR get.

[annyokie]

ping for a good article

[freebacon]

Strange radical views seem to be quite prevalent among those who by into the radical views at universities. Most universities which have over 90% liberal professors, spew radical ideology such as Affirmative Action and feminism, and make other efforts to pander to the black population with an agenda of manipulation in mind. An effort to permeate ideas that are meant to separate them from the rest of the population..such as the idea of overwhelming racism among whites.. ect.. In order to create a new proletariat which will supply a solid base for the liberal party, which it has. The blacks tend to be especially susceptible to buying into them. Due to the fact that the issues expressed are directed directly to them. This journalist, while offering a new perspective to readers who aren't familiar with this topic. Also showcases a skewed and shrewd view of reality.

[cyborg]

The only thing I have to add is that she needs to travel and get out more often.

[mhking]

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[mhking]

From my own site (http://mhking.blogspot.com/) on Dickerson's book this afternoon:

The End of Blackness? We Can All At The Least Hope For Enlightenment

Debra Dickerson's new book, The End of Blackness, must be worth the read, if only to see for yourself if the negative comments from the crab-in-the-barrel black folks on the Amazon.com reader review section of her book entry are upset because of seeing themselves in the mirror the book provides or if the book is poorly written.

I'd be inclined toward the former, simply due to the type of rhetoric there -- the same type of brow-beating and carping that I see regularly in my own hatemail.

"Look at Dickerson's white fan club below! Including the one from Los Angeles POSING as a black person (January 19). And TWENTY-ONE white friends in his white club really LOVED it too! (Don't you guys think that you made yourself a little too heavy-handed and obvious, spamming positive book review votes for Dickerson? And, negatively, counterspamming book review votes against black reveiwers, some very well written or incisively pithy.)"

"Dickerson (and her supporters here) would have us drop "counterproductive" liberal efforts that "haven't worked." Like what? The resoundingly successful Head Start, breakfast programs, health screening, and the like? They also oppose "counterintuitive" liberal ideas -- quality schools with resources equal to the best white public schools, small classrooms with well-paid teachers, urban neighborhoods as well-maintained by cities as white neighborhoods, and police who actually live in and care about the urban communities they serve in. Why? All of those things (which have never been properly tried, thanks to opposition by conservatives) would cost money, when it's obvious that our national priority is funneling all of our resources into war and military spending -- and enriching the few and the well-connected. Better to blame Blacks for their own plight, then, and offer more "pull-yourself-up-by-your-bootstraps" solutions that haven't led anywhere."

"Do we really need another black neo-conservative to tell us how hypocritical black America is?"

Anybody notice that in the minds of many of the Soul Patrol that all conservative blacks are coded "neo-cons" in order to dehumanize us and make it easier to make personal insults?

And to answer that last person's question, obviously, America does. The hypocrites in black America continue to blame everyone outside themselves for their problems. They continue to insist (as the whining scribe just before notes) that self-empowerment doesn't work.

Dickerson's earlier book, An American Story, engendered similar accusations of self-hatred and selling out. It too, is one that I'm going to see about looking at. I'd rather read the reasoned thoughts of someone who has taken the time for self-examination as opposed to attacking others simply for having views that are outside of the mainstream.

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This review also published on Blogcritics.org at: http://blogcritics.org/archives/2004/02/20/155353.php.

[Ditto]

The resoundingly successful Head Start, breakfast programs, health screening, and the like? They also oppose "counterintuitive" liberal ideas -- quality schools with resources equal to the best white public schools, small classrooms with well-paid teachers,

Successful!!! For who? Maybe the race-hustling cleptocrats who make fortunes off the backs of poor blacks, but those programs have been complete and utter failures from an educational standpoint. Poor black kids have fallen further and further behind at a time when education is more than ever a prerequisite for success.

[cyborg]

Rush had on a guy from Head Start the other day. The guy was really well meaning and cared about kids BUT too bad the only people making money in NYC are TEACHER UNION THUGS.

[rocksblues]

bump

[rocksblues]

MH: Thought you might like to see this.

People can rise from
mean streets to Wall St.

"Blacks have gone from being a traded commodity to trading commodities on Wall Street, and while that is clearly progress, it cannot be completely applauded until the other sectors of society catch up to the meritocracy we see on Wall Street - where people are judged by their abilities, not the color of their skin."

Excerpted, click here for full article.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ideas_opinions/story/166040p-145321c.html

[happygrl]

This should be read carefully by every freeper.

I agree. One of the best essays I've read on FR.

CW, you'll appreciate this.