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Schwarzenegger orders attorney general to take action on gay marriages
SF Gate ^ | Febuary 20, 2004 | BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 02/20/2004 8:29:27 PM PST by Simmy2.5

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:45:50 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger ordered California's attorney general Friday to take legal action to stop San Francisco from granting marriage licenses to gay couples.

In a letter to Attorney General Bill Lockyer, Schwarzenegger directed the state's top lawyer "to take immediate steps" to get a definitive court ruling declaring the city's actions to be illegal.


(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: arnold; billlockyer; gavinnewsom; gaymarriage; homosexual; homosexualagenda; marriage; prisoners; samesexmarriage; sanfrancisco; schwarzenegger; sf; stunt
Looks like the Governator is getting fed up with the blantent law breaking.
1 posted on 02/20/2004 8:29:28 PM PST by Simmy2.5
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To: Simmy2.5
Fantastic! And if Lockyer balks, I hope Arnold puts him in a headlock and SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZES!
2 posted on 02/20/2004 8:31:44 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
Can I watch?
3 posted on 02/20/2004 8:32:51 PM PST by BunnySlippers (a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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To: Simmy2.5
Duplicate thread...
4 posted on 02/20/2004 8:33:57 PM PST by txrangerette
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To: LibWhacker

Arnold carrying Lockyer's casket.
5 posted on 02/20/2004 8:35:50 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: BunnySlippers
Yes, it'll be fun! :-)
6 posted on 02/20/2004 8:36:12 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Paleo Conservative
LOL, and shootin' at the Mayor.
7 posted on 02/20/2004 8:37:08 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: txrangerette; Admin Moderator
Opps. Didn't see the other one.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1081992/posts

I guess you can close this one.
8 posted on 02/20/2004 8:37:44 PM PST by Simmy2.5 (Kerry. When you need to ketchup...)
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To: Simmy2.5
Took him long enough! He should throw the Mayor of San Fransissyco in jail. Wait...sorry...that's not punishment for him. what the heck was I thinking.
9 posted on 02/20/2004 8:39:27 PM PST by Buffettbassman (One Nation...Under God...Indivisible...with Liberty and Justice For All!)
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To: Simmy2.5; Admin Moderator
Opps. Didn't see the other one.

I guess you can close this one.

It's a different story from a different source just the sam topic. No reason to delete this thread.

10 posted on 02/20/2004 8:40:16 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Simmy2.5
Good for Arnie!
11 posted on 02/20/2004 8:41:15 PM PST by novacation
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To: Simmy2.5
Love it !
12 posted on 02/20/2004 8:41:26 PM PST by ex-Texan
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To: Simmy2.5; *Homosexual Agenda; Prime Choice; Sabertooth; Salem; Dubya; Geist Krieger; MeekOneGOP; ...

""Our civilized society and legal system is based upon a respect for and adherence to the rule of law. The City and County of San Francisco's unfortunate choice to disregard state law and grant marriage certificates to gay couples directly undermines this fundamental guarantee," Schwarzenegger wrote."

The "unfortuante choice" came from this man - who incidentally would be strung up on a wooden stake in the heart of the city if he dared counter the mayor's order to grand gay (mairrage) certificates . .

San Francisco County Superior Court Judge Ronald Evans Quidachay gestures during a court hearing about same-sex marriages in San Francisco, Friday, Feb. 20, 2004. Evans told all those present demanding the court uphold what California voters four years ago VOTED to overwhelmingly approve a measure that says only marriages between men and women are valid to ..

GO TO HELL - GO STRAIGHT TO HELL!


13 posted on 02/20/2004 8:45:28 PM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: Simmy2.5
Thank God! Took Arnold long enough!

But, as they say, better late than never...
14 posted on 02/20/2004 8:49:52 PM PST by Prime Choice (I'm pro-choice. I just think the "choice" should be made *before* having sex.)
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To: Happy2BMe
I wonder what this guy's "orientation" might be?

Those lips look like they are getting ready for some "action".

15 posted on 02/20/2004 8:53:49 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: Buffettbassman
Can someone from California please explain to me if these judges are elected? I am assuming not, but will reserve judgment on that until I hear. But if they are not elected, this latest act of judicial activism represents a terrible attack on America as a republican form of government. I cannot stand it any longer where judges either ignore state laws to further their own political agenda. They stoop down and dramatically alter society and its norms without being elected by anybody, simply appointments ratified by a legislature. This sort of judicial activism in the US must stop. I believe it is in direct violation of the Constitution.

Conservative judges are made to confirm that they will uphold Roe v. Wade even though they disagree with it and liberal judges create new laws out of wholecloth.

Any freepers please direct me to an organization that is looking to overthrow judicial activism and don't send me to the Republican National Committee, because they're not saying diddly-squat about this latest outrage.

16 posted on 02/20/2004 8:57:18 PM PST by Roy Tucker
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To: Happy2BMe
Liberal judges are fascist authoritarians.

They think we'll bow before their linguistic constructs.

17 posted on 02/20/2004 9:16:18 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: Happy2BMe
Judge Ronald Evans Quidachay...this guys face oughta be on a 3 dollar bill.....
18 posted on 02/20/2004 9:17:17 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Simmy2.5
I guess that Moby (and the alleged "angry religious conservatives") will have to come up with a different line of attack now.
19 posted on 02/20/2004 9:19:57 PM PST by pawdoggie
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To: Simmy2.5
Looks like the Governator is getting fed up with the blantent law breaking.

Ann Coulter was right all along...

"... it must mean something that Schwarzenegger goes around calling himself a Republican... You don't go around calling yourself a Republican in Hollywood to win admiring glances from studio executives. To take a page from the gays' handbook: 'Who would choose this lifestyle? Who would choose to be persecuted, censored and ostracized?'"

20 posted on 02/20/2004 9:21:24 PM PST by MegaSilver (Coulter/Harris 2008)
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To: Simmy2.5
Nope; not a duplicate. Just very similar. :)
21 posted on 02/20/2004 9:26:50 PM PST by MegaSilver (Coulter/Harris 2008)
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To: CA Conservative
Oh but the governor can't order the AG to do anything and the mayor hasn't done anything illegal and the AG is the top law enforcement official and nobody can tell him what to do!!! And I am ignorant!!! Well wise ass who is ignorant now??? Oh don't bother apologizing now...you've had all day to admit you're wrong and offer your apologies, don't waste my time any more with your wise ass remarks. ROFLMAO In the future before you start insulting people I suggest you get your facts straight, genius!!!
22 posted on 02/20/2004 9:30:53 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. "C" 1/5 1st Mar Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi VOTE "NO" ON PROPOSITIONS 55-58)
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To: Rabid Dog; starsandstrips; summer; Jim Robinson; Salvation; jam137; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
PING Looks like all those emails and phone calls finally did some good! Now if we can keep the heat on maybe the Terminator will cut the budget enough to balance it without bonds, more taxes and/or more fees. And maybe he'll forget about giving the illegals a drivers license!!! Keep those emails and phone calls coming!!! governor@governor.ca.gov
(213)897-0322
(916) 445-2841
Semper Fi, Kelly
23 posted on 02/20/2004 9:44:11 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. "C" 1/5 1st Mar Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi VOTE "NO" ON PROPOSITIONS 55-58)
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To: kellynla
Ping(o)!
24 posted on 02/20/2004 9:57:47 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: kellynla
bump!
25 posted on 02/20/2004 10:05:46 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Roy Tucker
The way it works in California is that initially, most judges are appointed by the Governor to a vacancy. Thereafter, they must be elected on a periodic basis. Judges can be recalled, but good luck in trying to recall any frootloop judge in Sodom Francisco.
26 posted on 02/20/2004 10:06:34 PM PST by Enterprise ("Do you know who I am?")
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To: kellynla
In his decision the judge based his refusal to stop the marriages reasoning that there was no proof that it would cause irreparable harm. Hell, by that reasoning, a LOT of laws can be ignored.
27 posted on 02/20/2004 10:10:20 PM PST by Enterprise ("Do you know who I am?")
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To: Reactionary
Consider in Law Schools across the USA there is next to ZERO conservative perspectives on the law.

For you consideration, does anyone believe law professors teach the 2nd amendment as an individual right? Of course not. The lawyers that go out there into the world will be unlikely to be 2nd amendment lawyers. When some of these become judges, they only have the leftist view of 2nd amendment rights.

Now the ABA throught the ALI has put out a model domestic code which includes homosexual marriage and homosexual claims to children. There are no contradictory teaching comming from professors. (at least as acceptable answers.)

Perhaps a conservative legal think tank (ACLJ?) should produce a Model domestic code to sit side by side of the ALI version.

It is not just lawyers, it is the institutions around lawerys. It is the Judicial College (seminars) which train new judges, It is the law schools, it is the CLE classes, it is who gets into good schools, the students accpeted into Law Review and Moot Court. There is huge inertia against conservative ideas/positions within the law's inteligencia. (Horowitz from Frontpagemag has no concept of law schools in his University diversity expose.)
Conservatives who are lawyers did not aquire their knowlege from within law school. The obtain it outside. The fortunate students have it before they go in, the unfortunate ones figure it out about 15 to 20 years after graduation.

28 posted on 02/20/2004 10:41:55 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: joesnuffy; Reactionary; B4Ranch; Sabertooth; Salem; Dubya; Geist Krieger; *Homosexual Agenda; ...
"Liberal judges are fascist authoritarians. They think we'll bow before their linguistic constructs."

It's called an "oligarch."

These are the masters of it . .

The next step in denying God's sovereignty over the United States will go to these nine people . .

"The question is or at least ought to be, how can such a small, godless, minority have such influence over our courts and legislative processes?"

Answer:

U.S. Supreme Court, 2003 - The Oligarchy*

(All Your Sovereignty Are Belong To Us!)

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Back Row (left to right): Ginsburg, Souter, Thomas, Breyer
Front Row (left to right): Scalia, Stevens, Rehnquist, O'Connor, Kennedy

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Function: noun
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Date: 1542
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3 : an organization under oligarchic control

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Variant(s): also sov•ran•ty /-tE/
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ties
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Date: 14th century
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2 a : supreme power especially over a body politic b : freedom from external control : AUTONOMY c : controlling influence
3 : one that is SOVEREIGN; especially : an autonomous state


29 posted on 02/20/2004 11:32:11 PM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: CurlyDave
"Those lips look like they are getting ready for some "action".

Betcha he sees some heavy "chamber" conferences.

In fact, he may have had such an encounter just before telling all the "homophobic" crowd to go straight to hell . .

30 posted on 02/20/2004 11:38:06 PM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: Simmy2.5; Happy2BMe
Excellent ! Thanks for the post and ping !!

Here's the story Drudge is linking to this morning !

Photos

Schwarzenegger Seeks Stop to Gay Unions
 

Feb 21, 12:12 AM (ET)

By BETH FOUHY

(AP) Same-sex couples line a stairway while waiting in a long line for a marriage license at City Hall...
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BURLINGAME, Calif. (AP) - After a judge Friday declined to put an immediate end to same-sex marriages in San Francisco, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger ordered California's attorney general Friday to "take immediate steps" to get a court ruling to make the city stop.

Schwarzenegger's directive to Attorney General Bill Lockyer was prompted in part by the judge's decision not to impose a temporary restraining order that would have halted San Francisco's weeklong parade of 3,175 same-sex weddings, said Rob Stutzman, Schwarzenegger's communications director.

"Our civilized society and legal system is based upon a respect for and adherence to the rule of law," Schwarzenegger wrote in a letter to Lockyer. "The City and County of San Francisco's unfortunate choice to disregard state law and grant marriage certificates to gay couples directly undermines this fundamental guarantee."

The Republican governor "feels that we've come to a point where we're starting down a dangerous path and it leads to anarchy at some point," Stutzman said. "It's time for this to end."

(AP) Rena Lindevaldsen, left, and Mathew Staver, both attorneys from Orlando, Fla., representing the...
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Lockyer, an elected Democrat who is a potential candidate in the 2006 governor's race, has said he plans to vigorously defend state laws barring gay marriage.

Judge Ronald Evans Quidachay denied the Campaign for California Families' request for a temporary restraining order Friday, saying conservative groups failed to prove same-sex weddings would cause irreparable harm. In a separate case, another judge declined to order an immediate stop to the marriages Tuesday.

The conservative group argued that the weddings harmed all the Californians who voted in 2000 for Proposition 22, which defined marriage as between a man and a woman.

The judge suggested that the rights of the gay and lesbian couples appeared to be more substantial.

"If the court has to weigh rights here, on the one hand you are talking about voting rights, and on the other you are talking about equal rights," Quidachay said.

(AP) San Francisco County Superior Court Judge Ronald Evans Quidachay gestures during a court hearing...
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Quidachay consolidated the Campaign for California Families' lawsuit against the city with one filed by another conservative group, and told lawyers for both sides to work out between themselves when the next hearing would be held.

Peter Ragone, spokesman for San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, scoffed at Schwarzenegger's directive.

"The truth is, thousands of people are involved in loving relationships and having them recognized for the first time," Ragone said. "We urge the governor to meet with some of the couples because what's happening is both lawful and loving."

Mathew Staver, a lawyer representing the Campaign for California Families, said he believes the court ultimately will find that Newsom acted illegally when he began allowing gay marriages last week.

"He can't decide to grant same-sex marriage licenses any more than he can declare war against a foreign country," Staver said.

(AP) Members of Repent America, a religious group based in Philidelphia, gather and chant "This is...
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But chief deputy city attorney Therese Stewart said the failure of conservative opponents to win emergency injunctions demonstrates that the city has a strong case.

"Both judges really recognized there is nobody who is hurt by allowing gay people to marry," Stewart said.

Newsom remained defiant before the ruling, officiating at the wedding of one of California's most prominent lesbian politicians inside his offices at City Hall.

A crowd of politicians and lawyers celebrated that wedding as other gays and lesbians prepared to join the more than 3,000 same-sex couples allowed to marry so far.

About 25 anti-gay-marriage protesters later blocked the door of the county clerk's office, lying down in front of the line and singing religious songs. Gays and lesbians responded by belting out "The Star-Spangled Banner" until sheriff's deputies escorted the protesters out. No arrests were made.

Most Americans remain opposed to same-sex marriages. A poll out Friday indicated that 50 percent of Californians remain opposed, but that sympathy for allowing gays and lesbians to marry has risen by 6 percentage points over the last four years, to 44 percent.

In the San Francisco Bay area, 58 percent of all respondents support gay marriage, according to the Public Policy Institute of California poll, which was based on a statewide survey taken Feb. 8-16 and has a margin of error of 2 percentage points.

While defending its new marriage policy in court, the city also is suing the state, challenging its gay-marriage ban. The city contends the ban violates the equal protection clause of the California Constitution.

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Associated Press writer Lisa Leff in San Francisco contributed to this story.


31 posted on 02/21/2004 5:24:32 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (The Democrats believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
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To: Simmy2.5; Happy2BMe; Alamo-Girl; onyx; SpookBrat; Republican Wildcat; Howlin; dixiechick2000; ...
See full text/update in #31 ...

Here is the link to that article, too, btw:

Schwarzenegger Seeks Stop to Gay Unions

Excerpt:


Schwarzenegger Seeks Stop to Gay Unions
 

Feb 21, 12:12 AM (ET)

By BETH FOUHY

(AP) Same-sex couples line a stairway while waiting in a long line for a marriage license at City Hall...
 

BURLINGAME, Calif. (AP) - After a judge Friday declined to put an immediate end to same-sex marriages in San Francisco, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger ordered California's attorney general Friday to "take immediate steps" to get a court ruling to make the city stop.

Schwarzenegger's directive to Attorney General Bill Lockyer was prompted in part by the judge's decision not to impose a temporary restraining order that would have halted San Francisco's weeklong parade of 3,175 same-sex weddings, said Rob Stutzman, Schwarzenegger's communications director.

"Our civilized society and legal system is based upon a respect for and adherence to the rule of law," Schwarzenegger wrote in a letter to Lockyer. "The City and County of San Francisco's unfortunate choice to disregard state law and grant marriage certificates to gay couples directly undermines this fundamental guarantee."

The Republican governor "feels that we've come to a point where we're starting down a dangerous path and it leads to anarchy at some point," Stutzman said. "It's time for this to end."

(AP) Rena Lindevaldsen, left, and Mathew Staver, both attorneys from Orlando, Fla., representing the...
Lockyer, an elected Democrat who is a potential candidate in the 2006 governor's race, has said he plans to vigorously defend state laws barring gay marriage.


Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my General Interest or Texas ping list!. . .don't be shy.

32 posted on 02/21/2004 5:39:47 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (The Democrats believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
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To: Happy2BMe; autoresponder; PhilDragoo; Liz; onyx; nicmarlo; potlatch; MEG33; Grampa Dave; maxwell; ..


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33 posted on 02/21/2004 5:54:51 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (The Democrats believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
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To: Enterprise
Thanks, well I feel somewhat better than they actually do have to face the people eventually. Sort of lessens my faith in the people in California though.
34 posted on 02/21/2004 5:59:54 AM PST by Roy Tucker
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To: Roy Tucker
Any freepers please direct me to an organization that is looking to overthrow judicial activism and don't send me to the Republican National Committee, because they're not saying diddly-squat about this latest outrage.

The Most Important Legislation In The Last Fifty Years:The Constitution Restoration Act Of 2004

CONSTITUTION RESTORATION ACT “CRA” 2004

H.R. 3799 and S. 2082


35 posted on 02/21/2004 6:23:49 AM PST by .30Carbine
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To: Roy Tucker
Exerpts from the California Constitution regarding the judiciary.

I waded about half-way through before I went cross-eyed.

36 posted on 02/21/2004 6:35:37 AM PST by .30Carbine
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To: Roy Tucker
One could only hope that at some point that the Judge could be referred for disbarment. However, in a Democrat controlled State, the lawyers at the bar association would tend to be Democrat friendly, so there wouldn't be much hope there either.
37 posted on 02/21/2004 7:15:46 AM PST by Enterprise ("Do you know who I am?")
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To: Prime Choice
Does it not make sense for him to have waited to see what the judge did before he jumped in?

It really hasn't been that long.

38 posted on 02/21/2004 7:28:29 AM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Bump!
39 posted on 02/21/2004 8:03:03 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: little jeremiah
Ping


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40 posted on 02/21/2004 8:19:28 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: LibWhacker
This may end up as two fer for our side.

Arnold may get the mayor of Gay Frisco and Attorney General Bill Lockyer when Lockliar refuses to do anything.

Lockliar is a rat crook who has disabled the effectiveness of his office.
41 posted on 02/21/2004 8:41:28 AM PST by Grampa Dave (John F'onda Kerry is a Benedict Arnold with his anti America activities, post Nam.)
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To: Happy2BMe
This so great!

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42 posted on 02/21/2004 8:47:23 AM PST by Grampa Dave (President Bush has the power to fill court vacancies during the recess of the Senate!)
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To: Grampa Dave
Free Republic is a little squirrelly today. Here is the picture that was omitted:


43 posted on 02/21/2004 8:49:04 AM PST by Grampa Dave (President Bush has the power to fill court vacancies during the recess of the Senate!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
The Republican governor "feels that we've come to a point where we're starting down a dangerous path and it leads to anarchy at some point," Stutzman said. "It's time for this to end."

About time! Thanks Meek.

44 posted on 02/21/2004 2:36:06 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul (Freedom isn't won by soundbites but by the unyielding determination and sacrifice given in its cause)
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To: MeekOneGOP
This has got to end! What will happen to all the ones that went through Meek?
45 posted on 02/21/2004 3:25:44 PM PST by JustPiper (The fly cannot be driven away by getting angry at it)
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To: JustPiper
I think I heard that the state is NOT going to process the ones that are same sex.

So, technically, they are NOT recognized marriages (for now, anyway).

After that, it would depend on what the courts determine. And knowing the Ninth Circus and other Left Coast courts, anything goes, as we all well know ...

After that, SCOTUS. Then it's a possible Constitutional Amendment. It's a long road, I think.


46 posted on 02/21/2004 3:52:50 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (The Democrats believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
bump
47 posted on 02/21/2004 6:10:10 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: MeekOneGOP
    Judge Ronald Evans Quidachay denied the Campaign for California Families' request for a temporary restraining order Friday, saying conservative groups failed to prove same-sex weddings would cause irreparable harm. In a separate case, another judge declined to order an immediate stop to the marriages Tuesday.
How do same-sex weddings "irreparable harm" affect anything other than state legislation? And who voted in the law?

In the end what would we gain by jailing Newsom and making him a martyr? Even buffalo Barney is condemning the trend, for now. Allow the leftist wildfire to continue to burn their national forest.

48 posted on 02/22/2004 9:48:52 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection (www.whatyoucrave.com)
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To: .30Carbine
Thanks, I'll read them.
49 posted on 02/24/2004 4:07:18 AM PST by Roy Tucker
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To: Enterprise
Alas.
50 posted on 02/24/2004 4:08:04 AM PST by Roy Tucker
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