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Red Cross visits Saddam Hussein
BBC News ^ | 2/21/04

Posted on 02/21/2004 5:26:19 AM PST by areafiftyone

The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) has visited imprisoned former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein for the first time.

Spokesman Nada Dumani said two ICRC officials, including a doctor, visited him on Saturday and hope to conduct further visits.

They carried out a physical and mental evaluation of the former president, who is in US custody in Iraq.

They also took a letter from Saddam Hussein for his family.


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1 posted on 02/21/2004 5:26:19 AM PST by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone
Where are the obligatory "The US is treating the Former President of Iraq in a shameful and illegal manner. We demand that President Hussein be restored to his former position, post haste!"
2 posted on 02/21/2004 5:28:09 AM PST by Guillermo (It's tough being a Miami Dolphins fan)
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To: All
Also from Sky News

RED CROSS VISITS SADDAM HUSSEIN

The International Red Cross have visited former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein in custody.

Two members of the humanitarian group, including a doctor, conducted a physical and mental examination of the deposed Iraqi leader.

Red Cross spokesman Muin Kassis told Sky News the two officials had been granted a private visit, but said details of Saddam Hussein's condition would remain confidential under the terms of the Geneva Convention.

However Mr Kassis did reveal that Saddam had given the workers a message to pass onto his family.

"The fact that the visit took place is a positive thing and we hope that there will be more visits in the future," he said.

More to follow...

3 posted on 02/21/2004 5:28:33 AM PST by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: areafiftyone
message to pass onto his family.

What?

Dear Kusay and Husay, I'll be joining you soon in the fires of hell?

Huggys, Daddy

4 posted on 02/21/2004 5:35:33 AM PST by Flint
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To: Guillermo
I heard an interview on CNN with a member of the team that visited Saddam. She didn't call him the FORMER president of Iraq. She called him the president of Iraq (no "former" in the description).
5 posted on 02/21/2004 5:44:09 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: areafiftyone
I'm surprised the Red Cross showed up when the Red Crescent could have done a slightly better job.


6 posted on 02/21/2004 5:47:53 AM PST by The Turbanator
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To: areafiftyone
They also took a letter from Saddam Hussein for his family

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

7 posted on 02/21/2004 5:49:35 AM PST by OXENinFLA ("John Kerry is married to a 67 yr old ATM machine" ----- C-span Caller)
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To: Catspaw
I wonder if it was the same twit who reported the last election, where Saddam got 100% of the vote, as legitimate.

"The Iraqi people have spoken, and their loyalty and devotion to President Hussein is complete and neverending." (paraphrase)
8 posted on 02/21/2004 5:51:43 AM PST by Guillermo (It's tough being a Miami Dolphins fan)
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To: areafiftyone

Where was the Red Cross when all the Iraqi's were being murdered by Saddam?

9 posted on 02/21/2004 5:55:28 AM PST by tapatio
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To: Guillermo
"The Iraqi people have spoken, and their loyalty and devotion to President Hussein is complete and neverending." (paraphrase)

I wouldn't doubt it. She was positively giddy, if not semi-orgasmic, after seeing Saddam.

10 posted on 02/21/2004 5:57:47 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: Catspaw
I heard an interview on CNN with a member of the team that visited Saddam. She didn't call him the FORMER president of Iraq. She called him the president of Iraq (no "former" in the description).

Wishful thinking on her part. I wonder where this skank's deep concern was when he was torturing, murdering and raping his people.

11 posted on 02/21/2004 6:04:54 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: tapatio
Where was the Red Cross when all the Iraqi's were being murdered by Saddam?

Oh, they only show up when they want your blood, money or publicity.
12 posted on 02/21/2004 6:12:37 AM PST by pt17
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To: Catspaw
I heard an interview on CNN with a member of the team that visited Saddam. She didn't call him the FORMER president of Iraq. She called him the president of Iraq (no "former" in the description).

Just one more reason never to give to the Red Cross!

13 posted on 02/21/2004 6:15:22 AM PST by Bommer (John Kerry = War Criminal!)
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To: areafiftyone
awwwwwwwwwwwww, did he need a bandage on that booboo?
14 posted on 02/21/2004 6:17:14 AM PST by The Red Zone
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To: areafiftyone
However Mr Kassis did reveal that Saddam had given the workers a message to pass onto his family.

Wanna bet it was: "Two words for my nephews and nieces: 'ka' and 'boom'"

15 posted on 02/21/2004 6:19:15 AM PST by The Red Zone
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To: areafiftyone
Red Cross spokesman Muin Kassis told Sky News the two officials had been granted a private visit, but said details of Saddam Hussein's condition would remain confidential under the terms of the Geneva Convention.

Only because they couldn't find anything to complain about.

If they had, you know it would make headlines.

Becki

16 posted on 02/21/2004 7:35:20 AM PST by Becki (Pray continually for our leaders and our troops!)
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To: tapatio
Ya beat me to it...I was gonna post the EXACT SAME question. Like most "humanitarian" international organizations they are slightly to the left of Leon Trotsky and they never met a dictator that they didn't love. Miserable phonies.
17 posted on 02/21/2004 7:36:58 AM PST by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: OXENinFLA
They also took a letter from Saddam Hussein for his family

Great, now they know where he is. Do you think the attacks on local jails, in the past week or two were random? Even of the letter doesn't divulge his location I have faith that the IRC will.

18 posted on 02/21/2004 7:47:07 AM PST by pfflier
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To: areafiftyone
They also took a letter from Saddam Hussein for his family.

Late valentine cards?

19 posted on 02/21/2004 7:48:38 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe (The brighter you are, the more you have to learn)
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To: areafiftyone
"Red Cross visits Saddam Hussein"

Cake_crumb **YAWNS** widley, takes a swig of coffee and a puff of her cigar.

And waits for the media spin circus to kick into high gear.

20 posted on 02/21/2004 8:30:09 AM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Guillermo
Where are the obligatory "The US is treating the Former President of Iraq in a shameful and illegal manner. We demand that President Hussein be restored to his former position, post haste!"

Incoming. Bet on it.

21 posted on 02/21/2004 8:31:20 AM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: areafiftyone
They evaluated this madman's mental condition? They'll blame GWB for Saddam's insanity now.

The letter to family members bothers me. Which family members? His extended web of cousins and other "family" is busy blowing up US soldiers in Baghdad and Tikrit. This note could contain a map to buried billions, ammo, or even the WMD. Let's hope some US code experts read it before it left the jail.
22 posted on 02/21/2004 8:39:44 AM PST by PoisedWoman (My other tagline is in the shop.)
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To: areafiftyone
There seem to be some people on this thread that object to the Red Cross seeing Saddam. The Red Cross wastes a lot of money and I don't donate to 'em. BUT they are the international group that might get access to captured Americans in time of conflict or war. They have some quasi status under the Geneva convention if I recall correctly. This includes the delivery of letters to family.

So the mocking of the Ross Cross, for this effort, seems out of place, giving that others could someday limit their access to our troops. Knock the Read Cross for legitimate reasons, not for visiting prisoners of war, which Saddam currently is classified as.

23 posted on 02/21/2004 8:40:21 AM PST by Wheee The People (If this post doesn't make any sense, then it also doubles as a bump.)
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To: Wheee The People
I agree with you on this one. I do not agree with some that the Red Cross does, and I also do not contribute to them given the questionable financing, but I do have a different view of them regarding POWs. My dad was a POW in WWII and he often mentioned how the Red Cross parcels he received was the difference between life and death for him. I probably would not now be typing this had the Red Cross not contributed much to keeping the future father of Cap Huff alive.
24 posted on 02/21/2004 8:47:11 AM PST by Cap Huff
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They carried out a physical and mental evaluation of the former president, who is in US custody in Iraq.

Don't they mean cruel dictator instead of president?

25 posted on 02/21/2004 9:13:37 AM PST by Jeff Gordon Fan
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To: Wheee The People
I don't see how it can be considered news though - unless to be used as yet another club with which to bash the president and lose the war on terror - which Iraq is an intrinsic part of.
26 posted on 02/21/2004 9:14:01 AM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: areafiftyone
Did they remember to give them a "tolerance" brochure?
Did they ask him donate blood as a $400 donation?
Did they teach him about the glories of aborting children?
Did they explain the evil of guns, and why the world should remove them?

If they forgot, they're slipping.

27 posted on 02/21/2004 10:07:07 AM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: PoisedWoman
The letter to family members bothers me. Which family members?

Dear cousin Mohammad,

Dig out the bios and release them .

Thanks and Praise Allah,
Saddam.

28 posted on 02/21/2004 10:11:34 AM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: Cap Huff
My dad was a POW in WWII and he often mentioned how the Red Cross parcels he received was the difference between life and death for him.

That was the old Red Cross. Today, it's the New and Improved PC Red Cross. They perform social engineering now. The blood is simply a $400 donation.

29 posted on 02/21/2004 10:16:26 AM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: Jeff Gordon Fan
They can call him president if they want ... at my house we call him "wood-chipper boy".
30 posted on 02/21/2004 10:22:08 AM PST by Let's Roll (Kerry) is a self-confessed unindicted war criminal or... a traitor to his country in a time of war)
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To: concerned about politics
Yes, I know that there is a great difference between then and now. I gave up contributing to them years ago (I used to do so out of a sense of gratitude for what Dad experienced).

Nevertheless, I do think that in a POW situation the Red Cross would continue to do whatever it could for our military. Its just that today our enemies don't even come close to the Nazi's in terms of some semblance of humanity. The Nazi's at least let the parcels go through, and Dad was able to receive some letters from home.
31 posted on 02/21/2004 10:27:09 AM PST by Cap Huff
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To: concerned about politics
It's more the Red Crescent now.
32 posted on 02/21/2004 10:32:47 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: Jeff Gordon Fan
Don't they mean cruel dictator instead of president?

I wonder if they refer to Hitler as the former Chancellor of Germany.

33 posted on 02/21/2004 10:58:27 AM PST by Moonman62
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To: Cap Huff
Its just that today our enemies don't even come close to the Nazi's in terms of some semblance of humanity. The Nazi's at least let the parcels go through,

Same evil, different day.

34 posted on 02/21/2004 11:08:29 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe (The brighter you are, the more you have to learn)
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To: tapatio
"Where was the Red Cross when all the Iraqi's were being murdered by Saddam?"

==

EXACTLY!!!

Where was the Red Cross, when the Taliban were murdering their people in Afghanistan?

And is the Red Cross visiting the jailed prisoners in Iran, which the Mullah's arrest and probably murder?

Is the Red Cross visiting the political prisoners of Castro?

Is the Red Cross paying attention to the concentration camps in N. Korea?

Revealed: the gas chamber horror of North Korea's gulag

http://www.guardian.co.uk/korea/article/0,2763,1136483,00.html


35 posted on 02/21/2004 11:12:20 AM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: Cap Huff
Sadly, the Red CRoss then and the Red cross now are two diferent entities... Just as education then and now are different. I remember the shameful way they used September 11th donations. Bu I am glad they made such a difference in your dear father's life!
36 posted on 02/21/2004 11:44:18 AM PST by Libertina (Praavda not challenging enough? Enroll in Abcnbccbscnbccnn Comrade College)
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To: areafiftyone
A terrible thought just struck me.

Considering how the Red Cross cannot be trusted, they may well deliberately or accidentally reveal Saddam's location, and the terrorists and Baathists may try to attack and free him.

Can you imagine how terrible it would be to lose him now?!
37 posted on 02/21/2004 11:50:41 AM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: Libertina
Now the RED in the Red Cross stands for communism, not for blood, and the CROSS part is being ignored.
38 posted on 02/21/2004 11:51:35 AM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: FairOpinion
Excellent observation, FairOpinion.
39 posted on 02/21/2004 12:05:04 PM PST by Libertina (Praavda not challenging enough? Enroll in Abcnbccbscnbccnn Comrade College)
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To: tapatio
"Where was the Red Cross when all the Iraqi's were being murdered by Saddam?"

EXACTLY! This is pure crap!!
40 posted on 02/21/2004 12:10:03 PM PST by Spottys Spurs
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To: OXENinFLA
WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Relax. It's SOP with prisoner's of war. He does have a couple of daughters and some grandkids if I recall correctly.

41 posted on 02/21/2004 12:13:41 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Don't try to tug at my heart strings. I have no heart and it will make me suspicious of your motives)
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To: Libertina
Yes, I agree.
42 posted on 02/21/2004 12:16:24 PM PST by Cap Huff
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To: OXENinFLA; Pharmboy
Stop with the ignorant Whats!!! Saddam is officially a POW (designated so by our gvt). Under the Geneva convention POWS can send and get mail to family members and his status as a POW must be checked by members of the RedCross.
43 posted on 02/21/2004 12:19:56 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
He does have a couple of daughters and some grandkids if I recall correctly.

Who are widows and fatherless thanks to Saddam.

45 posted on 02/21/2004 1:26:01 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe (The brighter you are, the more you have to learn)
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To: FairOpinion
"Where was the Red Cross when all the Iraqi's were being murdered by Saddam?"

==

EXACTLY!!!

Where was the Red Cross, when the Taliban were murdering their people in Afghanistan?

And is the Red Cross visiting the jailed prisoners in Iran, which the Mullah's arrest and probably murder?

Is the Red Cross visiting the political prisoners of Castro?

Is the Red Cross paying attention to the concentration camps in N. Korea?"

How the hell can a civilian organisation operate in countries that do not allow them to have access or full access to all regions of their countries? For example the Taliban banned the Red Cross from operating freely within Afghanistan. You might as well be saying why is the US not liberating by force the opressed of those nations that you list (less Afghanistan).

46 posted on 02/21/2004 1:31:41 PM PST by Tommyjo
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To: Destro
Stop accusing me of saying the RC shouldn't have visited Saddam! I don't like the RC AT ALL. They love dictators and lefties. They can kiss Saddam's wounds and give him a haircut. I don't care.
47 posted on 02/21/2004 1:33:47 PM PST by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: Pharmboy
I hate the Red Cross ever since that bitch Elizabeth Dole refused to send aid to Serbia to support the terrorist Albanian Kosovo Liberation Army to whom her husband Bob had whored himself out to.
48 posted on 02/21/2004 2:11:18 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Pharmboy
I hate the Red Cross ever since that bitch Elizabeth Dole refused to send aid to Serbia (to punish the Serbs) because of her support the terrorist Albanian Kosovo Liberation Army to whom her husband Bob had whored himself out to.
49 posted on 02/21/2004 2:12:02 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Pharmboy
What is the real problem is that the Red Cros,leftists, and gullible people, keep trying to get moral equivalence between terrorists and murdering dictators with genuine POW-s.
50 posted on 02/21/2004 2:12:50 PM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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