Reading, Writing, and ... Homosexuality?

TownHall ^ | Feb. 21, 2004 | Doug Giles

[DemWatch]

Gone are the Norman Rockwell days of sending young Scooter off to school with his satchel slung over his shoulder, PBJ sandwich in his Superman lunch box and a wide-eyed expectancy of learning, the kind that makes individuals and nations great.

With regard to the safe and trusted haven that was the public school, the fat lady has officially sung. Not only did Big Mama sing a while back, she’s been in the grave decomposing for a solid 40 years. I hate to sound like a freaked out parent, but I AM A FREAKED OUT PARENT! -- and I’m seriously concerned about what is going on inside our public school systems, natoinwide.

I send my daughters off to school Monday through Friday to become alpha females in reading, writing and arithmetic. I want my kids to get a classic, quality education based on the historical and cultural tenets that have made us the greatest nation on the planet, and for them to get a stranglehold on the essential sciences.

We should also be able to expect their teachers not to undercut the moral authority that we parents have over our children, regarding right and wrong, particularly as it relates to sexual intercourse and homosexuality.

Public school teachers and administrators: if you mess with my kids’ heads while they’re in your classroom or at your school, respecting what I feel is not only wrong but also foul and offensive as well as spiritually, socially, mentally and physically unhealthy -- you’re going to meet with at least one angry Dad.

And now I’m an officially ticked off father, as just the other day without warning and without notice both my daughters were exposed to “It’s Okay to Be Gay” propaganda presented by high school students to their classmates, including my daughters, with the approval of their high school and middle school teachers.

It’s bad enough my girls have to see and hear things from fellow students that single sailors on leave in Borneo don’t see and hear, but now they get an overt inoculation regarding homosexuality sanctioned by their teachers and paid for by MY tax dollars.

Teachers and kids can’t talk about Jesus Christ, Moses or Biblical ethics -- at least not in a positive, plausible sense -- in the classroom. But it’s just fine to talk about Timmy and Tommy, the Testicle Twins? About Daddy’s male roommate? About anal sex and oral sex between teenagers of the same sex? What in the world is going on?

Parents, the innocence you work your butts off trying to provide your kids is being eroded, undermined or at the very least under-valued within the NEW public school systems.

The pro-gay propaganda and politically correct thought-control spawned by a few, a VERY FEW liberal deconstructionists ought to be radically and unendingly challenged by the 95-plus percent of Americans who think homosexuality is wrong. Parents, teachers and students with beliefs fundamentally different from those of the homosexual proselytizers invading OUR public school system, should make a loud noise about our dissenting views.

We’re the majority and the last time I checked, the majority still rules in the USA.

My ClashPoint is this: concerned parent, if -- IF -- your child is going to stay in public school, then it is your duty as a parent to know what is going on in his or her school, especially regarding such a serious issue as homosexuality. Or any school, for that matter. It’s this simple: you and I must be involved in our kids’ educational process.

It’s our job to meet their principals, teachers and counselors to tell them our beliefs and values; to view our kids’ courses and curricula; to attend every sport, play or project our children participate in. And we must teach them to listen carefully and to challenge constantly those things that reason, nature and history state are injurious.

The homosexual agenda is infecting and affecting our schools. Remember: they are OUR schools; we MUST protect and strengthen them. There is much we can do, and we CAN succeed in stopping gay recruitment -- but we can’t do it by burying our heads in the sand.

[Unam Sanctam]

I think it is an infringement on religious freedom for public schools to indoctrinate children on liberal religious and moral views on sexual activity, including homosexual activity. People have a right to hold traditional views on sexual morality.

[tioga]

-here is another really angry parent from a public school. He has a national column to spout off in!

[tioga]

-you should see this as well.

[stopem]

"There is much we can do, and we CAN succeed in stopping gay recruitment -"

What can we do? When the law allows them to break the law, what can we do?
I would gladly do it if I knew what it was.
They are now a strong and militant group who are threatening and verbally abusing anyone who gets in their way.


I have joined every single group that has been posted on this forum and signed the petitions including the one to the president. What more can we do?

[PresbyRev]

The purpose of the modern government school is not education, but rather is indoctrination and socialization.

Children are taught to be pliant, cowed and credulous - of anyone (no matter how ignorant or incompetent) in authority, of bullies and their peers.

Students in government schools are there in order to learn a new ethic and unlearn anything taught at home or in church or synagogue. That goes back to the foundations of 'public education' with Horace Mann and J. Dewey.

There is no neutrality in this life and government schools have never been and never will be 'neutral.' In teaching you must of necessity teach out of certain epistemological presuppositions and absolute or ultimate commitments - the teacher will communicate a world & life view no matter how irrational or inane.

Best thing to do if you don't like the tripe in government schools - rather than send your children there to be brainwashed - educate them at a private school, a homeschool co-op or homeschool yourself. Otherwise, you are deliberately turning over your child to be molded and taught by unaccountable educrats.

[Bob Mc]

One word Doug: Homeschool.

[upchuck]

Queers and Fagots ping alert.

[trek]

The point of Government Schools has always been "indoctrination and socialization." The indoctrination just used to be more benign.

It is now important that a majority of the citizenry realize that the end of universal education does not require the means government schools.

Everyone agrees on the end. We need to focus the debate on the means and not let the demagogues control the debate.

[Seruzawa]

I hate to generalize about teachers but why do they knuckle under to these kicked-in-the-head descontructionist ideas? Who thinks up these stupid ideas in the first place? Does no one have the sense to refuse to implement this garbage? Does anyone remember the disastrous "new math"? These obviously destructive curricula are signed on by administrators and implemeted in the schools without the slightest evidence that these things are anything but destructive.

Teachers as a class must be dumb as rocks. Or gutless wonders who will pass on any filth to out children just to keep their crummy jobs.

I guess I'm being too harsh. How many parents have the guts to say no to the Ritalin pushers, give up a few personal luxuries and put their kids in private school? A few thousand parents demanding the dismissal of these educrats would work wonders I bet.

[Texan5]

Oh, my God-this garbage has got to stop.

[thesummerwind]

We’re the majority and the last time I checked, the majority still rules in the USA.

Boy, don't say that.....you'll invite some sarcastic, angry Democrats to bring up the 2000 election again.

Btw, majority is certainly not always the best way to go.

[Lady Eileen]

This something I posted yesterday on another thread:

Two liberals I know from New York came to visit me recently...they asked me if I thought "gay marriage" would be accepted in America...I said most Americans do not agree with gay marriage(mirage)....The liberals said the reason most of middle America don't agree with it is because they are just plain stupid,ignorant and narrow-minded...They said that American children have been brainwashed by their parents.... I said it is not that they are stupid...they have a moral conviction that it is wrong...they said that most Americans are dumb and need to be reeducated...I said how to you propose to do this. They said it is already being done in the public schools.

[Licensed-To-Carry]

I have two beautiful little granddaughters ages 6 and 3. I have already told my son and daughter-in-law that I will make sure (financially) these kids continue to be enrolled in Christian school, just as they are now.

The public school system will be the major cause for the destruction of this country if it is not changed.

[Clint Williams]

What more can we do?

Water the roots of the tree of liberty.

[bolobaby]

We just took our 6 year old niece to Disney World. While in Epcot, I made sure to take her into the American pavilion so she could watch the "American Experience" show.

Throughout the show, I kept leaning over and explaining who everyone was...

"That's George Washington, the father of our country. He led our troops in the Revolutionary War."

"That's Thomas Jefferson, the man who is credited with largely writing our Constitution."

"That's Abraham Lincoln, leader of our country during the Civil War."

You get the idea.

Wouldn't you know... of ALL the people that she saw in the show, there was only ONE for whom she pointed at the screen and exclaimed, "I know who that is!"

Martin Luther King.

I was a little taken aback since this was late into the show and she hadn't known a single historical figure up to this point. Furthermore, MLK only flashed across the screen briefly, during a montage, yet she still picked him out readily.

So I asked her what MLK was known for.

(rough paraphrase, by memory) "He had a dream and he wanted everyone to be free including the 'afra-mericans' and then he got shot 'cause some bad person killed him."

OK... six years old. She can't even get the days of the week correct yet (don't blame me, she's my niece! (though we worked on that!)) but she can rattle off a mini-bio for MLK. She didn't even know any of the names of the other historical figures. Great.

Public education priorities. Gotta love 'em.

(I think MY kids will be home-schooled... when I have 'em, heh.)

[trek]

Your friend would appear to be correct. The radical gay left is definitely in control of public school curricula and Bush is doing nothing about it except increasing Federal support for the poison.

Patsy Schroeder (remember her?) is the top dog in the organization responsible for the textbooks used in schools around the country. How does that make you feel about the kind of education our kids are getting in the government schools.

[TheDon]

Separation of School and State BUMP!

[the right side jedi]

Don't forget the private schools. They're just as bad when it comes to educating kids about homosexuality. I'm surprised that the propaganda I got didn't persuade me but rather strengthened my conservatism. I guess being a conservative was my teenage rebellion. But not all kids react this way. On my college campus, I'm shocked that even conservatives (and Christians too!) from red states react to the whole gay marriage debate with a shrug and a "I don't see what could be wrong with it. We shouldn't be mean." Schools and popular culture has already screwed over my generation on this issue....

[Unam Sanctam]

But presumably one has a choice in whether or where to send kids to private schools. Public schools should be neutral on such a controversial topic.

[nmh]

Get her out of public school!

I have a daughter, she's 4 1/2 and an only child so I have to be mindful of spoiling her ... anyway, she counts to 100 and wants to learn about money. So we sat down and discussed, what's on a penny. Who is Abe Lincoln. Where is the Lincoln Memorial (on back of penny) etc with ALL the coins. I also emphasized "In God we Trust" is on most of our currency and showed her. Next week we tackle dollar bills, five dollar bills etc.

The point is she sees FIRST hand that God is more important than money and the role Christian men played in out Judeo Christian rooted country. BTW, she also goes to a private Christian school where the Bible is studied, unapologetically.

It's a wonderful school. For Thanksgiving the entire school makes their own authentic feast with foods the Pilgrim had for their feast. Of course Easter and Christmas are also celebrated. When they are YOUNG is the time to put this into their little heads.

[Warlord David]

WARNING!!!! AMERICA IS NO PLACE TO RAISE CHILDREN.

Now that the gays our have their ways in the liberal courts and schools, across this nation!

THE CHILD MOLESTERS ARE FOLLOWING CLOSE IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF THE GAYS.

But in a country whos values read like "ANY THING GOES" what do you expect????????

[little jeremiah]

Homosexual Agenda Ping.

Tell it, brother. This is the American Public school system - a liberal/homosexual agenda pitri dish.

If anyone wants on or off this list, ping me.

As far as ideas about what to do about it, check this thread, "What We Can Do to Defeat the Homosexual Agenda":

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1076476/posts

AND - the only way to protect your children is to homeschool them, or find a private school you can trust. Also, check out this website for books on how to protect your child from homosexaul recruitment:

http://www.defendthefamily.com/pfrc/showproducts.php

"Seven Steps To Recruit-Proof Your Child
A concise, practical guidebook for parents who wish to protect their children from pro-homoesxual indoctrination and the possibility of recruitment into the homosexual lifestyle.
$14.95 -

The Danger of 'Safe Schools'
A 12-page expose of the homosexual infiltration of public schools in newspaper format.

FREE! - Add to cart

[bolobaby]

"Get her out of public school!"

Not really an option with my /niece/.

The reason my wife and I took her to Disney is because her parents suck. They wouldn't have a clue regarding her education.

[tuesday afternoon]

I think it is an infringement on religious freedom for public schools to indoctrinate children on liberal religious and moral views on sexual activity, including homosexual activity. People have a right to hold traditional views on sexual morality.

Bump.

[PresbyRev]

"they said that most Americans are dumb and need to be reeducated...I said how to you propose to do this. They said it is already being done in the public schools."

BUMP

[hosepipe]

Man... when some people fall off the turnip truck they get really pissed... wait untill he finds out about americas colleges... Whew We..

[hosepipe]

[ Patsy Schroeder (remember her?) is the top dog in the organization responsible for the textbooks used in schools around the country. How does that make you feel about the kind of education our kids are getting in the government schools. ]

Now theres a bit of NEWS...
Patsy Schroder !... as evil a bitch as the left has in its ranks..

[Lady Eileen]

(I think MY kids will be home-schooled... when I have 'em, heh.)

I hope you stand firm in this decision. A shared commitment to homeschooling was one of the "must have" requirements my husband and I had for the person we would marry. Hardly a day goes by without a new news report providing additional evidence confirming the wisdom of that commitment.

[GrandMoM]

EdReform....can you post your helpful threads for this parent???????

[GeronL]

#8.

Not a big ping list you have there

HTTP://RINOHUNTER.BLOGSPOT.COM

[ladylib]

Some of the private schools are just as bad as public schools.

[ladylib]

Years ago, I had a disagreement with my boss about accepting homosexuality. She said that by accepting it as a viable lifestyle, that lifestyle will be touted in the public schools and to remember that homosexuals recruit.

I told her that I thought she was wrong, that she was just being intolerant, homosexuals are unfairly discriminated against, it would never happen, they would never get to be that powerful, blah, blah, blah.

Well, here we are 20 years later and everything she said is true.

[Seruzawa]

Sure, but not mine. This school has never failed to turn a problem student into a good one, as long as their parents follow the nutrition rules, etc. In fact the school officially proclaims that learning disabilites are fraud and can handle any child so labelled. Hard to believe, but it works.

[rogator]

"...told her that I thought she was wrong, that she was just being intolerant, homosexuals are unfairly discriminated against, it would never happen, they would never get to be that powerful, blah, blah, blah. "

Don't feel like the Lone Ranger. I could have written a variation of your post. I bet I am not the only other one on this board.

[EdReform]

Bump & Ping

What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda

Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Version 1.1)

[Criminal Number 18F]

Teachers as a class must be dumb as rocks.

I only taught for one year, 1987-88, but you're not far off my most generous estimate of my peers that year.

Also, the number of them that just flat hated kids was staggering. I mean, if I hated horses the last thing I'd do is take a job at a riding stable, ya know? If I hated the smell of diesel fuel I wouldn't become a bus mechanic. Why do people that hate kids become teachers?

My guess: when they are young kids in the bottom quintile of their college class, the idea of a job with all summer off to party sounds really cool.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

[Ethan_Allen]

'THEY SAID IT WAS ALREADY BEING DONE IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS"

Exactly. Important article here (save it) explains the change agents that have been at work across the spectrum, including education, to change this republic over into a Luciferian/Rockefellerian/Rothschild communistic state. The E-Files - The Truth About Education http://www.e-files.org/archive/edition10.html

[Lady Eileen]

Thanks.

[justagirl]

not everyone can or should home school their children. Besides, they are PUBLIC schools, our tax dollars pay for them. We should be trying to fix the problem instead of yanking our kids out and turning our backs on it.

[stillafreemind]

You are right..not everyone can homeschool. That being said..I highly doubt that I would put a child in public school these days.

The answer, it would seem, is that we have allowed this all to happen in the first place. One woman takes the schools to court..no more prayer..a few homosexuals think recruitment via schools is a great way to go..hey..they have accomplished it.

Meantime..where have we all been? Sitting around hoping it would go away or hoping that the other guy would do all the work to turn things around.

I would be most curious if someone had the knowledge to tell me what it would cost to run schools today like they did thirty years ago. i.e. teaching the the three Rs and history and science. You know, none of the extras we have today.

When the goverment started saying teach this..and heres money for that..our school systems bit hard.

Good luck justagirl..

[GOPrincess]

What you say sounds good in theory, but some of us have been banging our heads against the wall trying to fix the various problems in our local schools for years...as an individual it is quite exhausting to constantly be bucking the system, whether it be a teacher, principal, or the district. Been there, done that, on numerous issues. I finally decided it would be healthier if I could take that negative energy and channel it positively, toward private school and homeschool. I would love to see changes in the school system which would render it "usable" again, but it's going to take some sort of massive group effort -- you're up against the teacher's union, bureaucratic mediocrity, etc.

I do have one child still in public school and you should see the letter I got a couple weeks ago from the principal on why he's not enforcing the dress code...not only was it filled with lame "everybody's doing it" excuses (parents just can't buy clothes anymore that cover up their daughters' rear ends, you see), it had at least four vocabulary, punctuation, and grammar mistakes, including the memorable phrase that the school has a dress code "commiserate with the learning that needs to take place." I can only imagine he meant "commensurate."

[Bob Mc]

Sorry, I disagree. I've already given up on Public schools. My children are much to precious to leave in such a dangerous, corrupt, and abusive system, while politicians and bureaucrats tinker many years with "fixing it". Good luck with yours.

[justagirl]

ALL children are precious! We need to fix the problems in public schools not just for yours or mine, but for all of our precious children!

[Bob Mc]

I can't solve the worlds problems, only my own.

[whd23]

...you should see the letter I got a couple weeks ago from the principal ... it had at least four vocabulary, punctuation, and grammar mistakes...

It would be fun to take a red pen to it, correct the mistakes, put a big "F" at the top and mail it back.

Of course, your child still has to go to the school, so I understand how impractical that would be. But still...

[EdReform]

BTTT

[GOPrincess]

Believe me, I've thought about sending that letter back marked up, expressing my concern. Decided I'd better avoid it causing potential difficulties for my child (as I'm perpetually rocking the boat on various issues -- last year it was bathrooms without stall doors or locks and a teacher who was clueless in his subject...). My experience is that, with rare exception, school administrators are defensive excuse-makers rather than leaders...

My child is an honor student and doing fine despite the less-than-optimal setting, but I'm determined the younger children are going to have a more positive experience! Speaking of which, I'd better get back to some lessons now :).