BOOK REVIEW: An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews Invented Hollywood

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[dennisw]

Because you will find out how patriotic Jewish filmmakers were during WW2. Pumping out patriotic films

That's cause we were fighting the Nazis

Now struggles against the communists was and is a different story

Two words. "Manchurian Candidate". Now off the top of my head I think Jews wrote and  directed it, but what do I know?

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[veronica]

Christians are aware that most of the naysayers against Gibson's film are Jewish, and, while trying to be sensitive to Jewish concerns, Christians wonder why individuals deploring aspects of The Passion of Christ subject matter, remain silent while Hollywood continually degrades and marginalizes Christian beliefs.

Who are the "Christians" for whom you presume to speak?

I ask you again, have you seen Gibson's film, since you are obviously using it to push your own personal agenda...

Since you have so far refused to answer whether you have seen the film, I assume you have not, so on what basis are you seemingly trying to whip up animus toward Jews? What's your agenda here, LIZ????

Yes Liz, Jews have very prominent in Hollywood, and you should thank God they have.

Folks like Billy Wilder for instance, who fled Nazi Germany and came here to make some of the greatest films ever made. And folks like Irving Berlin, who wrote White Christmas.

[uncbob]

Two words. "Manchurian Candidate". Now off the top of my head I think Jews wrote and directed it, but what do I know?

You better watch that movie again

The VILLAINS were McCarthy like right wingers

[AppyPappy]

Christians are aware that most of the naysayers against Gibson's film are Jewish,

Proof please.

[AppyPappy]

Now struggles against the communists was and is a different story

You poor thing. You've never seen a movie from the 1950's.

[veronica]

Now struggles against the communists was and is a different story.

Really now. And in a case against the "Jews of Hollywood", is the director Elia Kazan, (On the Waterfront, etc.) who stood up to the left-leaners in Hollywood, who testified before HUAC, and as recently as a few years ago was protested against when he got a Lifetime Achievement Award at the Oscars included??

Mel Gibson's film may not be anti-semitic, I suspect it's not, but discussion of it, and the PR campaign he and his handlers have engaged in, has brought out the anti-semites from under their rocks. But I guess it's all worth it, from his POV, if it sells movie tickets.

[Liz]

As Christians know the OLD foretold hundreds of years prior to the first advent of Christ what would be .... Psalms 22.

Mel Gibson's film depicts the last 12 hours of Jesus Christ's life. Now, there's a lot of speculation about the sequel. I'd have guessed it would be story of the Resurrection of Christ. But I think a sequel depicting Christ from birth to preacher of the message of salvation would be an uplifting film. But then wouldn't you want to see the Passion of Christ film again to chronologize what Christ's teachings brought upon Him?

[veronica]

I'll ask you for the 5th time.

Have you seen Gibson's film? A simple yes or no will do. :)

[uncbob]

I am speaking in generalities

Just like you can point out many conservative blacks but that doesn't change the fact 90% vote for the democrats

Same thing holds for the Jewish community but not as large a margin

Just take a look at the Jewish members of the senate past and present and tell me what the vast majority's political bent is

[Just mythoughts]

If Mel gets to do a sequel he must use the Old Testament as witness to what is Written in the New Testament.

There would be no issue if he had included Psalms 22 and many other scriptures as "FIRST" witness from the Old Testament.

No body seems to argue about the veracity of the Old Testament so Mel should start there, because that is what gives the New Testament credibility.

[Liz]

Labeling a person an anti-Semite is not a charge one should make loosely.

The man who famously heads the Anti-Defamation League which defends Jews against anti-Semites----Abe Foxman---- was fined $10.5 million dollars for falsely accusing a Colorado couple of being anti-Semites.

Just as an interesting aside, the falsely accused couple had worked in Hollywood before moving to Colorado.

Although Mr Foxman is in the forefront of groups upset by Gibson's film, to Foxman's credit, I do not believe he has accused anyone connected with the film of being an anti-Semite.

In a TV interview I saw, Foxman said he did not think the film itself was anti-Semitic, either.

[veronica]

Like I said, intended or not, Gibson's film has brought the anti-semites out from under their rocks.

I gotta laugh when so-called Christians who have not even the film, enagage in a campaign against Jews, in the name of defending Gibson's film. Who do they think they fool?? ;)

[Liz]

No question.

[veronica]

Labeling a person an anti-Semite is not a charge one should make loosely.

Just as branding someone as anti-Christian, or a "Christian-hater" is not something a rational person does willy-nilly.

Don't you think you should actually see the film first Liz, before you make blanket statements about it?

Isn't that what Foxman was accused of?

So have you seen it, or haven't you??? :)

[Caipirabob]

Hollywood was an excellent example of Capitalism. As a new middle class emerged in America, it demanded more activities to fill in the new concept of "liesure and family time". Hollywood met that demand by providing entertainment with the brand new media of film and then later, television.

It's been at the center of American culture for decades.

It's sad that over the past few decades, there have been leftist who have decided that the media should be turned into a tool for leftist propaganda and cultural perversion. Still, this is a secular/liberal issue and hopefully those of us who have a problem with Hollywood realize that.

At any rate, today I revile Hollywood and have little inclination to subsidize any of the refuse that spews from it. The culture war in in full swing, and Hollywood is on the wrong side of it. The question still stands, will it be the losing side?

[Just mythoughts]

"I gotta laugh when so-called Christians who have not even the film, enagage in a campaign against Jews, in the name of defending Gibson's film. Who do they think they fool?? ;)"

I respond directly to you.

Mel wants to make a film. Mels spends his own money to make the film.

Who was first on the scene pointing the finger of accusation?

[Caipirabob]

I gotta laugh when so-called Christians who have not even the film, enagage in a campaign against Jews, in the name of defending Gibson's film. Who do they think they fool?? ;)

I caught this scanning through the posts and got curious. What Christians are campaigning against Jews over this film?

[veronica]

Hollywood was an excellent example of Capitalism.

Exactly. Films that people want to see make money. Ultimately, the public makes or breaks a film, putting aside the fact that some films go unnoticed but later garner an audience and become cult classics.

Smart producers and directors promote their films, in order to raise public awareness. That, Gibson has done in an undeniably brilliant manner. It has also brought him some scrutiny he is angry about, such as the exposure of his father's whacko views.

[veronica]

What Christians are campaigning against Jews over this film?

Nutters at sites where anti-semites hang out. Then again, Gibson himself has deemed anti-semitism a sin, so Christians who use the film to promote an agenda against Jews, are sinners.

[veronica]

Who was first on the scene pointing the finger of accusation?

A group of Christian and Jewish scholars actually, who early on managed to get a copy of the script. I'll find the article about it by one of the Christian gals involved. She recently wrote an op-ed in the Christian Science Monitor.