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Collect the set! The John Kerry canceled weapons system of the day.
SteynOnline ^ | Feb 22, 2004 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 02/22/2004 2:05:18 PM PST by John Jorsett

Thrilling tales of America’s fighting men and women in action using stuff Senator Kerry didn't want them to have!

“We are continuing a defense buildup that is consuming our resources with weapons systems that we don’t need and can’t use.”
~ John Kerry, campaigning for the US Senate in
1984.

1) THE APACHE HELICOPTER
March 2003: The 101st Airborne launch a night attack against Iraqi forces using a useless, unnecessary helicopter John Kerry wanted to cancel.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 101stairborne; 2004; apache; defensespending; helicopter; kerry; kerryrecod; kerryrecord; marksteyn; nationalsecurity

1 posted on 02/22/2004 2:05:21 PM PST by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett
Steyn must read FR.
2 posted on 02/22/2004 2:18:38 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of it!!)
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To: John Jorsett
But John Kerry knows all about the military; he was in Vietman, don't you know.
3 posted on 02/22/2004 2:18:45 PM PST by South40 (My vote helped defeat cruz bustamante; did yours?)
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To: John Jorsett
Looks like we're all working on this angle today...lol


4 posted on 02/22/2004 2:20:04 PM PST by Seeking the truth (Some oldies/newbies are really full of themselves, aren't they?)
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To: John Jorsett
We didn't need anymore weapons. We learned our lesson in Vienam. The montra of the 70's Kerry.

He doesn't support our military. That'll be seen. He's only the front runner now. It gets worse when he's the only runner next to President Bush.
5 posted on 02/22/2004 2:22:43 PM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a Conservative)
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To: John Jorsett
-John Kerry- some selected, informative links...--
6 posted on 02/22/2004 2:23:15 PM PST by backhoe (The 1990's? The Decade of Fraud(s)... the 00's? The Decade of Lunatics...)
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To: xzins; diotima
Dio......I think Steyn read your thread..:-)
7 posted on 02/22/2004 2:24:55 PM PST by Dog (Bin Laden your account to America is past due......time to pay up.)
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To: xzins
Steyn must read FR.

He definitely does. That 'cancel' link goes right to a FR post.

8 posted on 02/22/2004 2:25:32 PM PST by John Jorsett
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To: Pokey78
Pokey can you ping the list please..
9 posted on 02/22/2004 2:25:55 PM PST by Dog (Bin Laden your account to America is past due......time to pay up.)
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To: John Jorsett
Mark Steyn read DIO's Thread........COOL!
10 posted on 02/22/2004 2:27:40 PM PST by Dog (Bin Laden your account to America is past due......time to pay up.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim....Mark Steyn is quoting this site.
11 posted on 02/22/2004 2:28:50 PM PST by Dog (Bin Laden your account to America is past due......time to pay up.)
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To: Dog; All

MARK STEYN,

YOU ROCK MY WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12 posted on 02/22/2004 2:35:36 PM PST by diotima
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To: diotima
:-)
13 posted on 02/22/2004 2:36:11 PM PST by Dog (Bin Laden your account to America is past due......time to pay up.)
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To: AnnaZ; agitator
GET A LOAD OF THIS!!!!!!!!!!
14 posted on 02/22/2004 2:36:30 PM PST by diotima
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To: John Jorsett
I clicked on it after I posted, and it surely did do exactly as you said.

I LOVE to read Steyn.

I'm pleased that he reads us. :>)

15 posted on 02/22/2004 2:38:59 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of it!!)
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To: John Jorsett
You forgot to include this line or the article in your post:

Document copyright Steynonline.com. All rights reserved.

Under the circumstances it's the least we can do to insure that his site gets page hits.

16 posted on 02/22/2004 2:40:46 PM PST by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: diotima
Dio click on the word cancel in the article and it takes you right to your thread.....:-)
17 posted on 02/22/2004 2:41:31 PM PST by Dog (Bin Laden your account to America is past due......time to pay up.)
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To: diotima
Great job! :)
18 posted on 02/22/2004 2:45:01 PM PST by StriperSniper (Manuel Miranda - Whistleblower)
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To: diotima
Hugh Hewitt as well... "Kerry for Senate 1984 document"
19 posted on 02/22/2004 2:45:38 PM PST by non-anonymous
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To: John Jorsett
Awesome. FR and Steyn - where ALL the news is reported.
20 posted on 02/22/2004 2:48:01 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: John Jorsett
A big hello and thanks to Mark Steyn. I love it! Let's hope there's more where this came from.
21 posted on 02/22/2004 2:50:23 PM PST by July 4th (George W. Bush, Avenger of the Bones)
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To: ChrisCoolC; diotima
Look what Hugh Hewitt wrote..

If you want to understand why Kerry is fearful of letting his Senate record become a centerpiece of the campaign ahead, study the Kerry for Senate 1984 document that the Freepers have already turned up. And that's just one document from one year out of the 19 years that Kerry spent compiling a lifetime "Americans for Democratic Action" voting scorecard to the left of Teddy Kennedy's.

22 posted on 02/22/2004 2:53:08 PM PST by Dog (Bin Laden your account to America is past due......time to pay up.)
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To: Seeking the truth
The F-15? Who the heck wanted to drop the F-15? I mean, there were people who thought the F-16 was a bad idea because it was too light and only had one engine, but who the heck thought we didn't need a new interceptor? This guy's not just a lib, he's dumber than most!
23 posted on 02/22/2004 3:13:40 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt-- Pray for Terry Schiavo!)
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To: John Jorsett
This is too good.
24 posted on 02/22/2004 3:19:09 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: John Jorsett
1) THE APACHE HELICOPTER March 2003: The 101st Airborne launch a night attack against Iraqi forces using a useless, unnecessary helicopter John Kerry wanted to cancel.

The main point here indeed is the Apache's outstanding record in both Gulf Wars, and that's the point we should make when we bring this to the average voter's attention. But also consider this: When there were thousands and thousands of Soviet tanks on the border of West Germany and the Army needed a new tank-killer, John Kerry didn't think we needed one. He also didn't think we needed a heavy tank that could deal with the T-72 and T-80.

This man is not Ted Kennedy the Younger, he's Jimmy Carter the Younger. "Gee, why would the Soviets act like bad guys...Duuuuuhhhhhhh!"

25 posted on 02/22/2004 3:24:16 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt-- Pray for Terry Schiavo!)
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To: doug from upland
Dio and I confirmed it doug.....I'll ping you to something.
26 posted on 02/22/2004 3:36:10 PM PST by Dog (Bin Laden your account to America is past due......time to pay up.)
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To: xzins
FR rocks. In recent days we've been a resource for Rush Limbaugh, Instapundit, Mark Styn....

You cannot do political oppo research these days without consulting FreeRepublic.com.
27 posted on 02/22/2004 3:38:28 PM PST by BCrago66
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To: John Jorsett

28 posted on 02/22/2004 3:39:00 PM PST by ChadGore (Viva Bush. He's EARNED a second term.)
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To: ChadGore
Chad can I post that on another thread?
30 posted on 02/22/2004 4:00:51 PM PST by Dog (Bin Laden your account to America is past due......time to pay up.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Yes, it is simply incredible!
31 posted on 02/22/2004 4:07:02 PM PST by Seeking the truth (Some oldies/newbies are really full of themselves, aren't they?)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Here's my take on whether the guy is dumb or not: Perhaps he was a plant, sent to attempt the scuttling of crucial weapons. A compromised man, perhaps?

His actions and positions go somewhat beyond short-sightedness.
32 posted on 02/22/2004 4:20:49 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Frank_Discussion
His actions and positions go somewhat beyond short-sightedness.

Seems as though there may be an inordinate amount of that sort of thing, lately.

33 posted on 02/22/2004 4:53:13 PM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: michigander
Here's an analogy, in a conversation between such people and the soldiers:

Soldier: "Senator, it seems that the enemy is aiming directly at my head! It takes a lot to stay safe under these conditions."

Senator: "Well, that's wonderful, and I really think you need to be careful. By the way, take your helmet off, I don't think you need that old thing."
34 posted on 02/22/2004 5:01:34 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Frank_Discussion
Senator: "Well, that's wonderful, and I really think you need to be careful. By the way, take your helmet off, I don't think you need that old thing."

What party does that said "Senator", supposedly, represent?

35 posted on 02/22/2004 5:11:02 PM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: michigander
Does it matter? In Kerry's case, of course, it would be democrat. As was our previous President, another federal "servant" who hamstrung us in our fight against terrorists and dictators.
36 posted on 02/22/2004 5:15:20 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Frank_Discussion
Does it matter? In Kerry's case, of course, it would be democrat.

Sure it matters.
You put it in quotes (""). Did someone actually say that or not?

37 posted on 02/22/2004 5:18:44 PM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: michigander
Since I said it was an analogy, and then presented in quotes by me, take it as a piece of commentary literature on my part. It was not intended to be an acutal transcribed conversation, rather a description of the situation as historical fiction.
38 posted on 02/22/2004 5:45:30 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Frank_Discussion
So you just made it all up, eh?

So, are are you "Moby", a member of the DNC, a DU troll, someone that wants to see a stronger candidate than Kerry presented by the Dems?

39 posted on 02/22/2004 5:50:40 PM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: michigander
Excuse me? Been posting here a while, don't remember being called a troll before. (I hope it is some level of sarcasm from you on a level I'm not comprehending.) Yes, I made it up, that's why I called it an ANALOGY, perhaps I should have called it a FABLE. A fictional story with a moral and/or ethical point.

I've been off the board for just a couple of days - have the Moby attacks been very prevalent. I remember on Friday that the ZOTs and post deletions were picking up, so i wouldn't be surprised that my fellow FReepers may be a bit irritated. But please don't take it out on me, OK?

What I am saying is that we seem to have a number politicians both past and present who have taken positions and pursued actions that are completely counter to our national security.
40 posted on 02/22/2004 6:08:32 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: michigander
One more thing: The WHOLE INTENT of my little story was to agree with you.
41 posted on 02/22/2004 6:09:45 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Frank_Discussion
The WHOLE INTENT of my little story was to agree with you.

I don't doubt that. In the grand scheme, there's likely much more that we would agree on than disagree.
The thing is, my real context was lost when my "Comment #29" was "Removed by Moderator".
I guess it happended to amount to some sort of perceived "thought crime" as it broke no known posting "rules" of which I'm aware.
All the "Moby", DNC and DU paranoia BS aside (not by me 'or you' in particular, just by the tone being set here, lately, in general), perhaps I was being too blunt.
Nothing personal, to you, intended.

42 posted on 02/22/2004 7:10:39 PM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: michigander
OK, then. Have a good evening. Or a better one, at any rate.
43 posted on 02/22/2004 7:12:42 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Frank_Discussion
Here's my take on whether the guy is dumb or not: Perhaps he was a plant, sent to attempt the scuttling of crucial weapons. A compromised man, perhaps?

Nah, if that was true he would have supported the DIVAD/Sgt. York gun system to the hilt. Just joking...

Nope, he's not the Manchurian Cadidate. I'm afraid he's just one more example of how blind people can be even when they're intelligent. I wholeheartedly believe that Communism and Socialism are lies straight from the pit of Hell, and being a major spokesman for them requires one to be spiritually blind at best, and a willing servant of Hell (as Richard Wurmbrand proved about Karl Marx in one of his books) at worst.

If we give Kerry the benefit of the doubt, we still get a guy who came back from Vietnam hating America, and hating a nation (as in it's character and people) is evil. If that nation is one like ours that sends her sons to die for the freedom of others, even hating its government is out of bounds. The boy's got issues, and they haven't changed in over 30 years.

44 posted on 02/22/2004 9:46:00 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt-- Pray for Terry Schiavo!)
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To: John Jorsett; diotima
woohoo! you're famous now, diotima!
Mark Steyn hotlinked your FR post.
45 posted on 02/22/2004 10:27:20 PM PST by King Prout (I am coming to think that the tree of liberty is presently dying of thirst.)
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To: diotima
oh, you knew... ok.
still, woohoo!
46 posted on 02/22/2004 10:28:05 PM PST by King Prout (I am coming to think that the tree of liberty is presently dying of thirst.)
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To: John Jorsett
Steyn BTTT
47 posted on 02/23/2004 1:18:09 AM PST by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: lainde
Can't believe this thread hasn't had more hits bump
48 posted on 02/23/2004 12:35:19 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("Not Fonda Kerry")
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