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FREEREPUBLIC NET LAUNCHES WEB SITE ON “WINTER SOLDIER INVESTIGATION”
JOHNKERRYFORPRESIDENT.INFO ^ | 2/23/03 | Diotima

Posted on 02/23/2004 4:18:08 AM PST by diotima

***NEWS RELEASE***

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE February 23, 2004
Contact: Scott Swett (frn@freeper.org) (703) 863-8033

FREE REPUBLIC NETWORK LAUNCHES WEB SITE ON "WINTER SOLDIER INVESTIGATION" AND KERRY SLANDER OF U.S. TROOPS IN VIETNAM

(Washington, DC) The Free Republic Network today announced the unveiling of www.WinterSoldier.com, a new web site to provide news, analysis and research material regarding the false claim by John Kerry and others during the Vietnam era that atrocities were routinely committed by America's military.

In 1971 former Navy Lt. John Kerry testified before the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations about American "war crimes" in Southeast Asia, which he described as "not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command". Free Republic Network Director Scott Swett released the following statement:

"John Kerry played a key role in the leftist disinformation campaign that undermined support for the war by slandering a generation of American soldiers as mass murderers of civilians. Kerry testified before the Senate that the United States committed war crimes in Vietnam as a matter of military policy, citing claims of atrocities made at the discredited 'Winter Soldier Investigation' -- an event primarily funded by Jane Fonda."

"The truth is that atrocities were the exception in Vietnam, not the rule."

"Since Senator Kerry has made the strength of his military record a key issue in his pursuit of the Presidency, it is important for voters to have access to a more complete picture of his actions than is available from the Kerry campaign or the media. WinterSoldier.com will document and analyze the activities in which Kerry and others participated during the Vietnam era."

The site features a section on Kerry's hard-to-find 1971 book "The New Soldier" and covers the activities of the group Vietnam Veterans Against the War and its sponsors. New information will be added as it becomes available. Readers are invited to provide feedback, submit editorial pieces, and provide relevant material. The site will go live on Monday, February 23, 2004.

The Free Republic Network www.FreeRepublic.net is a 501(c)(4) public service corporation whose mission is to organize, train and support conservative activists nationwide. It provides information and organizational services to more than 50 regional and issue-based chapters around the country, and serves as the activism arm of the Free Republic Forum www.FreeRepublic.com.

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To: diotima
Good one:

You can also visit the website by typing in: johnkerryforpresident.info

251 posted on 02/23/2004 9:40:45 PM PST by GOPJ (NFL Fatcats: Grown men don't watch hollywood peep shows with wives and children.)
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Totally concur with your assessment.

That POS represents my state and anyone living in fly over country is delusional if they believe this won't happen.

She is campaigning all over NY State promising to pump Federal funds to distressed upstate cities.

The left loves her, she is their saviour and they will vote for her. You have to really live in this liberal hell to appreciate how deeply the left hates our President and how committed they are to their glory days of the 60's. The older ones just dress a little differently than their Woodstock days, but they and their offspring are still working toward that communist utopian world.

252 posted on 02/24/2004 12:25:40 AM PST by catfur (In my world, no outfit is complete without cat fur)
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To: catfur
My sister is a 50 year old angry commie. She WANTS Hillary to run for president. She actually wanted Hillary to run back when Bill ran and won two times. I don't see why these people are so in love with communism... they have to build walls to keep people IN with communism....
253 posted on 02/24/2004 1:26:33 AM PST by buffyt (Kerry is now one of those (communists) who we fought against. {Aloha Ronnie quote})
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To: secretagent
And your point is .....what?
254 posted on 02/24/2004 2:45:50 AM PST by Dog (Bin Laden your account to America is past due......time to pay up.)
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To: Dog
Sorry I didn't make that clear. I remembered two versions of what happened to the NIS report, then ran into one again, the one you found.

Just reposted it on this thread, with credit due. Thanks!

255 posted on 02/24/2004 6:36:33 AM PST by secretagent
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
This post may be easier.Click on the link,John Kerryfor Presidentinfo, at the top of this post,then at the Winter Soldier site,click on Key Quotes,found on the left side index.At the bottom of that KQ page is the audio link.
256 posted on 02/24/2004 6:47:29 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: mystery-ak
Follow my directions in #256 and listen to Kerry at his most pretentious.
257 posted on 02/24/2004 7:08:31 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Interesting Times
I'm glad you included Hayden's horrible words. I missed them on your site. Despicable. I see now what kind of propaganda machine we were and are up against.

Kerry should be ashamed of himself. Keep spreading the word.

258 posted on 02/24/2004 7:10:50 AM PST by Victoria
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To: kabar
I didn't know any of this. Thanks for taking the time to spell it out.
259 posted on 02/24/2004 7:12:56 AM PST by Victoria
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To: diotima
G. Gordon Liddy is plugging the Winter Soldier website on his radio program now.
260 posted on 02/24/2004 7:42:56 AM PST by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: PhilDragoo
: Was the American antiwar movement important to Hanoi's Victory? A: It was essential to our strategy.

Brag about that, J effin Kerry!!!!!

261 posted on 02/24/2004 7:53:04 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: diotima
Wow, and just damn! You all did a great job, and I'm passing it on!
262 posted on 02/24/2004 9:29:11 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Until Kofi Annan rides the Jerusalem RTD....nothing will change.)
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To: ladtx; Interesting Times
AWESOME!
263 posted on 02/24/2004 9:32:58 AM PST by diotima
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Bump!
264 posted on 02/24/2004 9:34:07 AM PST by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife; diotima
You've made a good point about "her heinous".

While I want John Kerry exposed for the traitor that he is, it could open the door for a last minute Clinton entrance. Edwards? He's a trial lawyer. Egads, what is he going to do for us? Sue France?

I think that your scenario is right on target, and God help us. We have to be ready!
265 posted on 02/24/2004 9:46:45 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Until Kofi Annan rides the Jerusalem RTD....nothing will change.)
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To: diotima
Big Bump!
266 posted on 02/24/2004 11:57:39 AM PST by martian_22 (Who tells you what you are?)
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To: TheSpottedOwl; diotima
We have no other choice than to counter Kerry. Like this website does!

But we need to be ready to POUNCE on "her heinous" like you said!

I just pray the President and his advisors have the campaign adds "ready to ROLL"!

They need position papers ready to be "hot off the presses" to go after Hillary on her records! AS DO WE!!!

BECAUSE....

I smell a RAT.... a bunch of RATS...DemRATs!
267 posted on 02/24/2004 2:46:27 PM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
My opinion of George W Bush, is that he is a good poker player. I think he is ready for anything. I sure as hell he's ready for that.
268 posted on 02/24/2004 3:36:47 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Until Kofi Annan rides the Jerusalem RTD....nothing will change.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
You're right. People underestimate our Commander in Chief.. ALL THE TIME!!

Loved his speech last night to the Gov's!! :o)
269 posted on 02/24/2004 5:58:21 PM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: diotima
Great big fat Freepin' bump to the FRN Winter Soldier site. You guys have done a great job of gettting this story out. Kudos to you and your team on this effort Diotima.
270 posted on 02/24/2004 7:03:49 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: diotima
Thank you for posting this info.
271 posted on 02/24/2004 7:07:52 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: diotima
Thanks for posting this and Thanks to FRee Republic for letting the public know about mr. kerry(a.k.a, slimeball,not capitolised on purpose).
272 posted on 02/24/2004 7:09:58 PM PST by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: Interesting Times
OK,here are my observations.I never was in Vietnam but I know MANY Vietnam vets who DO tell of commiting acts that many of us who stayed stateside might consider rather ugly and cruel.Their justification was that after you see your buddies killed and wounded you are defintely not likely to see the Vietnamese as a people worthy of giving a lot of slack to if there is any question of them being the enemy.
I think there probably WERE some atrocities commited against civilians just as there have been in all wars.That is not to say that the whole Winter Soldier movement didn't have a bigger,New Left agenda to promote but to deny that it happened at all is pretty naive and myopic.
Riverman
273 posted on 02/24/2004 7:11:19 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: Riverman94610
How about getting your friends to come in to FreeRepublic and telling their story? Gossip from you makes you sound like John Fing Kerry.
274 posted on 02/24/2004 7:16:13 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: diotima
I'll be honest, I think the site design is bad.

The front page should get across easily digested information because most people won't have the patience to read 8548754 pages. Still make sure to provide the depth for those that want it.
275 posted on 02/24/2004 7:24:26 PM PST by adam_az (Be vewy vewy qwiet, I'm hunting weftists.)
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To: diotima


Gore Confers With Gen. Clark

Democrap Military Ballot Box


276 posted on 02/24/2004 7:27:28 PM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: diotima
"The truth is that atrocities were the exception in Vietnam, not the rule."

Yep. When Hollywood came out with Casualties of War (Michael J. Fox as innocent homegrown boy, Sean Penn as psychotic squad leader), they had no problem touting that the movie was "a true story" (not merely based on a true story).

When the truth came out, they indignantly admitted that some things were made up and conceded that it should have been stated as based on a true story (which means that about 10% is true with 90% pulled out of the air or somewhere else).

Many people had no problem believing that Vietnam soldiers were raping little girls and smashing their parents' heads in. This movie came out at the same time that Dan Rather was doing expose shows fictional accounts of Vietnam vets who were crazy with grief and guilt because they were killing kids, beating grandmothers, shooting heroin, and brutalizing everybody and everything. These lies were exposed even though the truth got very little play. Dan Rather's interviewed SEAL members who were awarded silver and bronze stars turned out to be malcontents who worked supply warehouses in Okinawa before being kicked out of the military for alcoholism or behavior problems. CBS and the rest of the liberal media didn't care. They continue to portray Vietnam vets as crazy victims of an unjust war who can't function in society even though personal problems and criminal behavior on their part is less than the national average across the board.

277 posted on 02/24/2004 7:40:37 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (All the good taglines are taken.)
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To: The Shrew
If you're concerned about the Vietnam Veteran and how he was portrayed after the war this site is vital to a more complete view than the one given out by the media - during the 1960-70's.

...and '80s. Casualties of War starring Michael J. Fox still says it's a true story in the opening credits. It was proven not to be true.

278 posted on 02/24/2004 7:45:16 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (All the good taglines are taken.)
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To: Riverman94610
I think there probably WERE some atrocities commited against civilians just as there have been in all wars.That is not to say that the whole Winter Soldier movement didn't have a bigger,New Left agenda to promote but to deny that it happened at all is pretty naive and myopic.

Who said there were zero atrocities?

At issue is whether they were routine or rare, and whether they were in violation of orders or the result of American military policy.

279 posted on 02/24/2004 7:51:41 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: The Mayor
Thanks for the ping. That website has a wealth of information for those interested enough in making sure Kerry never becomes President of our great land. I think that includes all of us.

Thanks again.
280 posted on 02/24/2004 7:53:25 PM PST by Mixer
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To: diotima
Someone should remind Kerry that you can't wrap yourself in an American Flag after you've burned it.
281 posted on 02/24/2004 8:19:35 PM PST by jihadjim
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To: jihadjim
Someone should remind Kerry that you can't wrap yourself in an American Flag after you've burned while your burning it.
282 posted on 02/24/2004 9:36:10 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: autoresponder
ping
283 posted on 02/24/2004 9:39:02 PM PST by potlatch ( Frankly, Scallop, I Don't Give a Clam)
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To: ntnychik
ping
284 posted on 02/24/2004 9:41:01 PM PST by potlatch ( Frankly, Scallop, I Don't Give a Clam)
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To: adam_az
The front page should get across easily digested information because most people won't have the patience to read 8548754 pages. Still make sure to provide the depth for those that want it.

Okay. We trimmed it down a bit, and added a link to a "key points" page.

See what you think now.

285 posted on 02/24/2004 9:51:41 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Rebelbase
Did you personally witness any atrocities?
286 posted on 02/24/2004 10:27:24 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: BlackElk
With all due respect, McGovern never was "out of control" as Admiral Zumwalt has been quoted as saying of Kerry. Nor did McGovern in any way seek to cooperate with Hitler and Tojo to udermine our military effort, he waited until Stalin's successors and Mao and Ho Chi Minh to undermine the country.
287 posted on 02/24/2004 10:32:06 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: I got the rope
Well,several of my Vet friends from the Post Office told me they would shoot at farmers and water buffalo as their convoy was going by.Now maybe they were LYING and trying to"go for bad"but I took them at their word.
Did you ever read William Manchester's account of his years in the Pacific Theatre in WW2?He witnessed a number of incidents where surrendering Japanese soldiers were shot in cold blood.Nowhere near the level of mass torture and slaughter the Japanese commited but war IS Hell and s*** happens.
I have absolutely NO interest or am in any way supportive of Kerry.Hell,if I had been in Vietnam I would most likely want to get some pay back also for those bastards who killed my buddies.
Riverman
288 posted on 02/24/2004 10:45:00 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: diotima
BUMP!...Bookmarked...This veteran says "Thank You"
289 posted on 02/24/2004 10:50:42 PM PST by Sandmansleeper (Quinn's First Law: Liberalism always generates the exact opposite of its stated intent)
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To: BlackElk
Well said with PASSION and ATTITUDE!
290 posted on 02/24/2004 10:59:46 PM PST by Sandmansleeper (Quinn's First Law: Liberalism always generates the exact opposite of its stated intent)
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To: Rebelbase
"There is no way to spin this, if you think searching for US "war atrocities" to make Kerry out to be a liar is an admirable quality, I question your morality...its just plain wrong.
"

So what do you suggest we do Rebel? Just sit back and let the RATS create lies and spread them as the truth?

Are we suppsoed to remain silent while the truth goes un-reported?

We don't have to make John F'n Kerry out to be a liar. His own words...entered into the Congressional Record in 1971, his actions with VVAW and his lack of support for every weapons system in use today in the military highlight on their own that his "war hero" status is a fraud and a sham.

Scott Swett in his article on Townhall.com said that there was something like 2.6 million soldiers who served in Vietnam from 1963-1972 and there were only 203 doccumented cases of war crimes. Compare that to Detriot in 1972 when it was a city of 1.5 million people and over 600 murders in one year alone!

Kerr's claim of atrocities happening "everyday" withers when it's held against the light of statistical facts.
291 posted on 02/24/2004 11:24:13 PM PST by txradioguy (HOOAH!! Not Just A Word...A Way OF Life!!!!!)
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To: Interesting Times; All
Ok time to feel embarassed. I got into the thread late and if I've read correctly Scott Swett and Interesting Times are the same person.

I hope I remembered the portion of your article I quoted correctly.

BTW...It was a very good article.

I wonder why no one has asked John F'n Kerry why HE hasn't come over here to see firsthand to progress being made in Iraq and if he plans to if he gets the nod as the RATS candidate?
292 posted on 02/24/2004 11:33:31 PM PST by txradioguy (HOOAH!! Not Just A Word...A Way OF Life!!!!!)
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To: txradioguy; jennyp; Liz; Hon; jmstein7


















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293 posted on 02/25/2004 12:00:14 AM PST by autoresponder (JAMES BOND: http://00access.tripod.com/007.html J-FK: http://00access.tripod.com/Kerry-11.html)
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To: autoresponder
Paul Galanti learned of Kerry's speech while held captive inside North Vietnam's infamous "Hanoi Hilton" internment camp. The Navy pilot had been shot down in June 1966 and spent nearly seven years as a prisoner of war.
During torture sessions, he said, his captors cited the antiwar speeches as "an example of why we should cross over to (their) side."

LA Times 02/17/04


294 posted on 02/25/2004 12:26:07 AM PST by KQQL (@)
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295 posted on 02/25/2004 12:29:38 AM PST by KQQL (@)
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To: diotima
Excellent!
296 posted on 02/25/2004 12:54:14 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: All
Vote Saved
Your vote was saved for the poll "Should a man who falsely accused American troops of atrocities serve as Commander-in-Chief?"

Poll

Should a man who falsely accused American troops of atrocities serve as Commander-in-Chief?

Sure 94 (2.42%)
No 375 (9.64%)
Hell, no
3422 (87.95%)
3891 votes

297 posted on 02/25/2004 12:56:04 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Interesting Times
Much better!

great work.
299 posted on 02/25/2004 5:53:15 AM PST by adam_az (Be vewy vewy qwiet, I'm hunting weftists.)
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To: AmericanVictory
Your point is well taken. It is also true, however, that McGovern made the unfathomable distinction that the war he fought against Hitler as a bomber pilot was a "good war" whereas any war against communists was a "bad war." This allowed McGovern who engaged in the bombing of Danzig (concededly a military necessity) to denounce Vietnam War B-52 pilots for doing precisely what McGovern had done and also for military necessity (such as Ho Chi Minh placing anti-aircraft guns in the courtyard of a Hanoi children's hospital).

As with Kerry, I will refrain from regarding McGovern as a hero since he dishonored those who sacrificed in Vietnam to attempt to stop Ho Chi Minh and communist expansion. Unless and until either apologizes credibly as Joan Baez did, I am not going to go around with the mantra of "Thank you for your service" on my lips as to either of them. McGovern and Kerry are both part of the problem and not part of the solution.

300 posted on 02/25/2004 6:11:46 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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