I Cannot Publish the New Yorker Article, but I can Publish the Link About the Passion Critique

mlmr | 02. | DAVID DENBY

[mlmr]

Jim, I just read the Conde Nast Letter to FR requesting us not to exerpt or publish from their publications. I hope this is addressed. In the meantime it does not say I cannot link to an article for discussion and I think this is an importnat enough article to discuss and for interested freepers to see. If I am wrong in linking, I apologize, and pull the thread.

http://www.newyorker.com/critics/cinema/?040301crci_cinema

[mlmr]

This is a New Yorker Critics take on The Passion. Major Hatchet Job.

I would be intersted in your comments.

[mlmr]

Ping to this URL for a Passion critique that cannot be published at FR. http://www.newyorker.com/critics/cinema/?040301crci_cinema

[GraniteStateConservative]

Gibson, of course, is free to skip over the incomparable glories of Jesus’ temperament and to devote himself, as he does, to Jesus’ pain and martyrdom in the last twelve hours of his life.

As if that's not a worthwhile focus for a movie on Jesus. Gibson wants people to appreciate how much of a physical sacrifice Jesus' torture and death was, so we'd more appreciate the significance of it. He did it for us. He didn't eat bon-bons for us. He suffered and died for us.

[mlmr]

I agree. Radica leftists seem to have a Jesus, Jesus Meek and Mild view of Christ. He DID leave the manger and changed the world.

[eyespysomething]

I cry whenever I think about the love God has for us, love so uncomprehensible to we mere mortals, that He gave us His only Son, to be born into mankind, only to suffer a terrible terrible death, all for us to be able to join Him in Heaven.

I cry because I have 3 boys, and if I knew their fate before hand, would I have been able to bring them forth into this world? God did, and did.

He knew what was coming, but He loved us so, He knew we needed salvation and redemption. Christ forgave all as He hung on the cross, dying His earthly death. What a lesson everyone should take from that.

[Lunatic Fringe]

while the Jews were cast into darkness and, one might conclude from this movie, deserved what they got.

Puh-lease! This movie will fuel anti-semitism in much the same way Tora! Tora! Tora! fuels anti-Japanese sentiment. If it does fuel hatred in you, then you already hated that race to begin with.

[King Black Robe]

Thanks for posting the link. The real thing the Passion is exposing is the anti-Christian attitude of the media.

[Blood of Tyrants]

And against whom will the audience direct its hate?

My take is that hate and jealously and envy has driven the left so long that they simply cannot fathom anything else being the driving motive for anyone.

[mlmr]

Thank you King. Discussing the culural chasm and antichristian values is my own Passion. This reviewer excoriated the movie becsuse it didn't line up with his view of the world.

[Aquinasfan]

I cry whenever I think about the love God has for us, love so uncomprehensible to we mere mortals, that He gave us His only Son, to be born into mankind, only to suffer a terrible terrible death, all for us to be able to join Him in Heaven.

I pity the people who lived before the time of Christ. Imagine the fear of death that they must have had. The ancient Greeks came to understand "the God of the Philosophers," but He's a mysterious, distant God. The best understanding that the Jews had regarding suffering was the Book of Job, where Job humbly accepts his fate. But we Christians understand God to be Love, a God who gave his life as a ransom for many. There is no greater love than this.

[mlmr]

My take is that hate and jealously and envy has driven the left so long that they simply cannot fathom anything else being the driving motive for anyone.

The groundfloor philosophical tenant of Leftist radicals is power and hate and how they motivate history.

[stanley windrush]

Ditto,
Another hatchet job...today's Chicago Tribune
by Susan Thistlethwaite

Susan B. Thistlethwaite is president of the Chicago Theological Seminary

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/oped/

[Blood of Tyrants]

Written by a true non-believer. It is Mel's hope that when people see the film and wee what Christ was willing to subject himself to, that they would want to know the rest of the story as to WHY Jesus did it.

[mlmr]

Chicago Theo....isn't that a Wiccan pesthole??

[Sidebar Moderator]

Looks OK.

Everyone, please do not post excerpts in your replies.

Quoting the boss:

They said links only.

27 posted on 09/23/2003 1:52:41 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

[N. Theknow]

Gibson wants people to appreciate how much of a physical sacrifice Jesus' torture and death was, so we'd more appreciate the significance of it. He did it for us. He didn't eat bon-bons for us. He suffered and died for us.

Actually, the events bring the whole atheistic house of cards crashing down. One of their favorite wailing points is "How could a mericiful God allow (fill in the blank with whatever they want to blame Him with) this to happen."

But, to those of us who realize that it was our sins that were responsible for each lash of the whip and piercing of the thorns and nails, we know that God did not save His only begotten Son, so why should our lives be a walk in the park.

I asked Jesus how much he loved me. He stretched out his hands and said, "This much!" And then he died.

[mlmr]

Will do Jim. Jim do you have a theory of why CN and others are against the free marketplace of ideas?

[Cicero]

For what it's worth, I write scholarly books, and the basic copyright law allows brief quotations for purposes of discussion without obtaining any permissions. There's no definition of brief quotations, but usually a few sentences is OK. Longer quotations, especially from poems, require permissions.

That's my take, but of course folks should do what Jim Robinson and his legal advisers say.

[CaptainK]

David Denby, author of American Sucker. I can see how such a deep thinker might be offend by the The Passion

From Publishers Weekly "I wanted to be wealthy," Denby bluntly admits near the end of this absorbing memoir of the dot-com boom and bust. "I didn't make it." Like millions of other amateur investors in 2000 and 2001, Denby (Great Books) was swept along by greed, by the nearly messianic belief that the stock market offered easy opportunities for unlimited prosperity. Denby sunk hundreds of thousands of dollars into the Nasdaq, digested unhealthy amounts of CNBC and the Wall Street Journal and forged friendships with some of the era's brightest stars (and, later, its most public criminals). He lost his balance in the excess of the time-stock tickers in strip clubs; parties at executives' lofts-and then lost his money when the market crashed. ("The ax had swung," Denby writes, "and heads lay all over the ground.") Though exceedingly well written, Denby's portrait of the great "Dot Con" generally echoes the sentiments of other, similarly themed books about the period. The work is more appealing when Denby focuses on himself: he had nearly suffered a nervous breakdown when his wife of 18 years left him, and making enough money to buy out her share of their apartment was his initial motivation for investing in the market. Denby brutally details his decline, from a night of impotence to an affair with a married woman, then a six-month obsession with Internet porn-harrowing stuff for a New Yorker staff writer. His dissection of his own Upper West Side narcissism offers some of the most candid critiques of the Manhattan bourgeoisie ever found outside of a Woody Allen film. More of Denby, and less of the Nasdaq, would have made this good book even better.

[Republic]

I cry whenever I think about the love God has for us, love so uncomprehensible to we mere mortals, that He gave us His only Son, to be born into mankind, only to suffer a terrible terrible , all for us to be able to join Him in Heaven....

What an extraordinarily beautiful post. I so agree with all that you posted.