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Website Exposes Kerry's 1971 Antiwar Book, Activities (FRN)
GOPUSA ^ | 2/24/04 | Jeff Gannon

Posted on 02/24/2004 6:06:53 AM PST by diotima

(Talon News) -- A conservative activist group has created a website that features excerpts from a book written by Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) in 1971 when he was a leader in the Vietnam antiwar movement. The Free Republic Network (FRN) has posted photographs and transcripts of Kerry's testimony before Congress on the site, www.wintersoldier.com.

The cover of the book "The New Soldier" is displayed on the site which shows members of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) imitating the famous photograph of U.S. Marines raising the American flag on Iwo Jima. In this pose, the American flag is carried upside-down, a symbol of disrespect according to the rules of flag etiquette.

The name of the site comes from the Winter Soldier Investigation, an event staged in Detroit by VVAW that was intended to expose atrocities committed by American troops in Vietnam, but doubts about the claims made and the military history of those making the charges undermined its credibility. Scott Swett, a Director of FRN told Talon News his reason for creating the site was to "bring to light that the Winter Soldier Investigation was a fraud and a show trial that was financed by Jane Fonda and the other members of the hard left."

Swett declined to comment on Kerry's military service beyond saying, "To the best of my knowledge he served honorably."

The website talks about Kerry's much-publicized act of defiance where the future senator gained national attention for throwing his medals over a fence in front of the U.S. Capitol. Years later he admitted that he threw someone else's medals during the protest march after a reporter spotted Kerry's medals in his Senate office.

The website also tells how the apparently "spontaneous" speech Kerry delivered that day was actually written by a speechwriter for Robert Kennedy named Adam Walinsky.

John Kerry and the VVAW signed the "People's Peace Treaty" in 1971 and sent a delegation to Hanoi. The document was a summary of the North Vietnamese bargaining points, including the key concession that the United States must agree to withdraw all troops before any negotiations could take place for the return of American prisoners.

A portion of the book is devoted to Kerry's testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee during which he said of his fellow soldiers, "They told the stories [that] at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan."

Five days before his testimony before the Senate, Kerry appeared on NBC's "Meet the Press" where he said, "There are all kinds of atrocities, and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50 caliber machine guns... I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages."

Last week, Kerry was asked about reports that he had accused "American troops of war crimes," during his testimony by CNN anchor Judy Woodruff. The Massachusetts senator denied the statements that were recorded by the Congressional Record as well as his own book.

"No, I was accusing American leaders of abandoning the troops," Kerry said. "And if you read what I said, it is very clearly an indictment of leadership."

Jane Fonda appeared on CNN two weeks ago to explain that she and Kerry might not have even "shaken hands" at a Valley Forge, PA rally where the two were photographed together. But flyers distributed by VVAW for the Operation RAW (Rapid American Withdrawal) list Kerry and Fonda as speakers as well as sponsors.

Kerry recently charged that discussion of his war record and his antiwar past was equal to questioning his patriotism. Yet the Democratic Party has continued to blast President Bush about his service in the Texas Air National Guard, from which he was honorably discharged. DNC Chairman Terry McAuliffe said that the Bush may have been AWOL, a statement he has refused to retract.

On Sunday, Kerry sent a letter to President Bush saying, "As you well know, Vietnam was a very difficult and painful period in our nation's history, and the struggle for our veterans continues. So, it has been hard to believe that you would choose to reopen these wounds for your personal political gain. But, that is what you have chosen to do."

But it is Kerry who campaigns with his "band of brothers" and has established his image with the media as "John Kerry, war hero," while the Bush campaign has been focusing on the senator's voting record on defense and intelligence issues.

Copyright © 2004 Talon News -- All rights reserved.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Free Republic; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1971; 2004; frn; gannonorama; hanoijane; hanoijohn; kerry; kerryrecord; operationraw; talonnews; vvaw; website; wintersoldier
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1 posted on 02/24/2004 6:06:54 AM PST by diotima
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To: abner; DoughtyOne; Nick Danger; Bob J; Seeking the truth; MinuteGal; diotima; Libertina; ...
ping!
2 posted on 02/24/2004 6:08:17 AM PST by diotima
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To: Jeff Gannon
gannon-o-rama ping!
3 posted on 02/24/2004 6:12:02 AM PST by diotima
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To: diotima
Bump!
4 posted on 02/24/2004 6:12:13 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (What am I rebelling against? Well, what do ya got?)
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To: diotima; Jeff Head
Actually, carrying the US Flag upside down is a distress signal.

CF Jeff Head's Klamath bumper stickers. He has the 18 USC citation on it.

Good work btw.

5 posted on 02/24/2004 6:24:24 AM PST by sauropod (I'm Happy, You're Happy, We're ALL Happy! I'm happier than a pig in excrement. Can't you just tell?)
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To: diotima
Getting publicity!
6 posted on 02/24/2004 6:25:31 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: diotima
Jane Fonda appeared on CNN two weeks ago to explain that she and Kerry might not have even "shaken hands" at a Valley Forge, PA rally where the two were photographed together. But flyers distributed by VVAW for the Operation RAW (Rapid American Withdrawal) list Kerry and Fonda as speakers as well as sponsors.

I have a book in my possession entitled "The Winter Soldier Investigation" published in 1971 by the Veterans Against the Vietnam War. At the beginning of the book, they credit and thank Jane Fonda along with Donald Sutherland and others for contributing to the investigation. In the back of the book is a complete list of military personnel who testified. On the list is Lt. John Kerry. Although there is no testimony by him, he is credited with being there. So did Jane and John lie when they said they didn't really know each other?

7 posted on 02/24/2004 6:30:16 AM PST by itsinthebag
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To: itsinthebag
She's hoping you won't notice.
8 posted on 02/24/2004 6:31:25 AM PST by sauropod (I'm Happy, You're Happy, We're ALL Happy! I'm happier than a pig in excrement. Can't you just tell?)
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To: sauropod
Great wsork.
9 posted on 02/24/2004 6:33:02 AM PST by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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To: diotima
I call on John Kerry to stop keeping secrets, to let the American people know his true record. I call on John Kerry to release . . . his own book.
10 posted on 02/24/2004 6:33:22 AM PST by AmishDude ("[T]his-is-the-aging-of-the-dawn-of-Aquarius" -- Mark Steyn)
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To: diotima
Lucianne.com giving kudos to FreeRepublic for this expose.
11 posted on 02/24/2004 6:41:09 AM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: OldFriend; Interesting Times
Check out post 11, IT....
12 posted on 02/24/2004 6:43:15 AM PST by diotima
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To: itsinthebag
I have a book in my possession entitled "The Winter Soldier Investigation" published in 1971 by the Veterans Against the Vietnam War.

You may have a very rare book!

Two questions:

Did Al Hubbard write an introduction?

How does the book differ from the online version?

http://lists.village.virginia.edu/sixties/HTML_docs/Resources/Primary/Winter_Soldier/WS_entry.html

13 posted on 02/24/2004 6:49:58 AM PST by secretagent
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To: diotima
Kerry has lied so much someone should make a list of his lies.
14 posted on 02/24/2004 6:59:06 AM PST by Dante3
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To: diotima
I haven't seen this anywhere yet.. for what it is worth I got this is an email:

I know nothing about "Swift Boat" tactics so I can't judge the veracity of this letter. Maybe a more knowledgeable classmate can shine some light on this. It was forwarded to me by a high school classmate, USNA grad ('59) and Rear Admiral (Ret.)

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

Walt Plaue To: undisclosed-recipients:>
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 6:17 PM
Subject: John Kerry...You decide

Sent to me by an old shipmate....

I was in the Delta shortly after he left. I know that area well. I know the operations he was involved in well. I know the tactics and the doctrine used. I know the equipment. Although I was attached to CTF-116 (PBRs) I spent a fair amount of time with CTF-115 (swift boats), Kerry's command.
Here are my problems and suspicions:

(1) Kerry was in-country less than four months and collected, a Bronze Star, a Silver Star and three purple hearts. I never heard of anybody with any outfit I worked with (including SEAL One, the Sea Wolves, Riverines and the River Patrol Force) collecting that much hardware so fast, and for such pedestrian actions. The Swifts did a commendable job. But that duty wasn't the worst you could draw. They operated only along the coast and in the major rivers (Bassac and Mekong). The rough stuff in the hot areas was mainly handled by the smaller, faster PBRs. (2) Three Purple Hearts but no limp. All injuries so minor that no time lost from duty. Amazing luck. Or he was putting himself in for medals every time he bumped his head on the wheel house hatch? Combat on the boats was almost always at close range. You didn't have minor wounds. At least not often. Not three times in a row. Then he used the three purple hearts to request a trip home eight months before the end of his tour. Fishy. (3) The details of the event for which he was given the Silver Star make no sense at all. Supposedly, a B-40 was fired at the boat and missed. Charlie jumps up with the launcher in his hand, the bow gunner knocks him down with the twin .50, Kerry beaches the boat, jumps off, shoots Charlie, and retreives the launcher. If true, he did everything wrong.

(a) Standard procedure when you took rocket fire was to put your stern to the action and go balls to the wall. A B-40 has the ballistic integrity of a frisbie after about 25 yards, so you put 50 yards or so between you and the beach and begin raking it with your .50's.

(b) Did you ever see anybody get knocked down with a .50 caliber round and get up? The guy was dead or dying. The rocket launcher was empty. There was no reason to go after him (except if you knew he was no danger to you just flopping around in the dust during his last few seconds on earth, and you wanted some derring do in your after-action report). And we didn't shoot wounded people. We had rules against that, too.

(c) Kerry got off the boat. This was a major breach of standing procedures. Nobody on a boat crew ever got off a boat in a hot area. EVER! The reason was simple. If you had somebody on the beach your boat was defenseless. It coudn't run and it couldn' t return fire. It was stupid and it put his crew in danger. He should have been relieved and reprimanded. I never heard of any boat crewman ever leaving a boat during or after a firefight.

Something is fishy. Here we have a JFK wannabe (the guy Halsey wanted to court martial for carelessly losing his boat and getting a couple people killed by running across the bow of a Jap destroyer) who is hardly in Vietnam long enough to get good tan, collects medals faster than Audie Murphy in a job where lots of medals weren't common, gets sent home eight months early, requests separation from active duty a few months after that so he can run for Congress, finds out war heros don't sell well in Massachsetts in 1970 so reinvents himself as Jane Fonda, throws his ribbons in the dirt with the cameras running to jump start his political career, gets Stillborn Pell to invite him to address Congress and Bobby Kennedy's speechwriter to do the heavy lifting, winds up in the Senate himself a few years later, votes against every major defense bill, says the CIA is irrelevant after the Wall came down, votes against the Gulf War, a big mistake since that turned out well, decides not to make the same mistake twice so votes for invading Iraq, but oops, that didn't turn out so well

so he now says he really didn't mean for Bush to go to war when he voted to allow him to go to war.

I'm real glad you or I never had this guy covering out flanks in Vietnam. I sure don't want him as Commander in Chief. I hope that somebody from CTF-115 shows up with some facts challenging Kerry's Vietnam record. I know in my gut it's wildy inflated. And fishy.

Keep smiling,
Mike (usma1959-forum) Posted By: LEO Thomas W Jr 1959 22681 K2 < thomasleo@mindspring.com >

15 posted on 02/24/2004 7:07:36 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red ,white and blue!)
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To: diotima
If Kerry deserves to be President because he earned a "Silver Star" doesn't David Hackworth deserve to be President 10X as much as Kerry does?

Hackworth's won 10 Silver Stars.

16 posted on 02/24/2004 7:50:16 AM PST by syriacus (Kerry's on the record saying he chose a swift boat assignment because they saw less action.)
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To: syriacus
I didn't mention....Hackworth has 8 purple hearts....Kerry has only three.
17 posted on 02/24/2004 7:52:29 AM PST by syriacus (Kerry's on the record saying he chose a swift boat assignment because they saw less action.)
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To: diotima
Just sent the news off to 100 of my closest conservative friends - as well as the local news radio station!
18 posted on 02/24/2004 8:07:32 AM PST by Rabid Dog (formerly Rabid Republican)
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To: Bernard Marx; pacpam; hoppity; MayflowerMadam; capitan_refugio; Kviteseid; Val E. Girl; merry10; ...
Ventura County Chapter Ping

Chapter members - please visit www.wintersoldier.com - absolutely incredible what this guy is trying to get away with.
19 posted on 02/24/2004 8:10:42 AM PST by Rabid Dog (formerly Rabid Republican)
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To: AmishDude
Bush released all his military records for public scrutiny. Now, it is time for

John F. Kerry to release his military records!We just want to know who filed the requests and descriptions of his valor. That is all.

20 posted on 02/24/2004 9:54:29 AM PST by FreeAtlanta
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To: itsinthebag
I have a book in my possession entitled "The Winter Soldier Investigation" published in 1971 by the Veterans Against the Vietnam War. At the beginning of the book, they credit and thank Jane Fonda along with Donald Sutherland and others for contributing to the investigation. In the back of the book is a complete list of military personnel who testified. On the list is Lt. John Kerry. Although there is no testimony by him, he is credited with being there. So did Jane and John lie when they said they didn't really know each other?

Kerry acted as a moderator for one of the "panels" at Winter Soldier, but we don't have any record that he testified. There's little doubt Jane and John knew each other, and one of the reasons for WinterSoldier.com is to create a central repository for that sort of evidence.

21 posted on 02/24/2004 9:57:48 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: diotima
Hanoi John / Benedict Arnold Kerry Bump!
22 posted on 02/24/2004 10:09:20 AM PST by talleyman (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too...)
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To: diotima
"The cover of the book "The New Soldier" is displayed on the site which shows members of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) imitating the famous photograph of U.S. Marines raising the American flag on Iwo Jima. In this pose, the American flag is carried upside-down, a symbol of disrespect according to the rules of flag etiquette."

This is a bit of misinformation that has been constantly repeated. The photo on the cover of Kerry's book is a composite of several photos. They were taken as some of the VVAW marched around the White House. One of them carried a large US flag displayed upside down.

And as others have mentioned here and elsewhere, that is a well known distress sign--especially for sailors. Though they might have meant it to be disrespectful.

But there is nothing to suggest that there was any specific effort to mock the raising of the flag at Iwo Jima.
23 posted on 02/24/2004 10:21:24 AM PST by Hon
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To: diotima
John Kerry served in Vietnam? I did not know that.
24 posted on 02/24/2004 10:24:57 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: diotima
"The website also tells how the apparently "spontaneous" speech Kerry delivered that day was actually written by a speechwriter for Robert Kennedy named Adam Walinsky."

This is another bit of information that may not be factual. I have to admit that I helped pass this on in some of my posts here.

But the original charge for this goes back to Spiro Agnew and maybe also Chuck Colson.

Yesterday I had a friend of mine call Adam Walinsky and ask him about his involvement with Kerry and specifically that speech. Walinsky said that his only involvement in the Dewey Canyon III event was that "Kerry was broke" and he gave him some money so that he could bus people there.

Walinsky said he had nothing to do with Kerry's speech and that he didn't think it was particularly well-written. (Walinsky used to be RFK's speech writer and advisor.) He said that Kerry went off into a room with George Butler (who was a cameraman for the documentary being made about the event--which is available) and wrote the speech.

Whether Butler himself had a hand in the speech is unknown at this time. We're trying to track him down.
25 posted on 02/24/2004 10:27:04 AM PST by Hon
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To: Hon
It isn't a composite -- check page 14 in "Home to War."

I agree that it's unclear whether the marchers were intentionally mocking Iwo Jima. At least I haven't been able to confirm that.

26 posted on 02/24/2004 10:31:30 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: diotima
"But flyers distributed by VVAW for the Operation RAW (Rapid American Withdrawal) list Kerry and Fonda as speakers as well as sponsors."

Another error. Kerry is not listed as a sponsor.
27 posted on 02/24/2004 10:33:13 AM PST by Hon
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To: Hon
On page 135 of "Stolen Valor," Burkett says, "And Kerry's emotional, from-the-heart speech had been carefully crafted by a speechwriter for Robert Kennedy named Adam Walinsky, who also tutored him on how to present it."

It isn't clear where Burkett got that, though... there isn't a footnote.

28 posted on 02/24/2004 10:34:41 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Interesting Times
You're right. I thought the one on Kerry's book used that and another photo, but it is just that one.

Did you notice who took the photo? George Butler. He was a close friend of Kerry's (then) brother-in-law, and as I said, the cameraman (maybe director) of the documentary they made of the event.
29 posted on 02/24/2004 10:35:20 AM PST by Hon
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To: Hon
Yes... a documentary that we covet.
30 posted on 02/24/2004 10:37:01 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Interesting Times
"And Kerry's emotional, from-the-heart speech had been carefully crafted by a speechwriter for Robert Kennedy named Adam Walinsky, who also tutored him on how to present it."

I'm pretty sure that claim came from Agnew. IRRC, it's cited on the internet somewhere. Anyway, Walinsky says it isn't true.
31 posted on 02/24/2004 10:39:32 AM PST by Hon
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To: Interesting Times
"Vice President Spiro T. Agnew briefly led the White House charge against Kerry. Appearing in the Bahamas, Agnew said that Kerry, "who drew rave notices in the media for his eloquent testimony before Congress, was later revealed to have been using material ghosted for him by a former Kennedy speechwriter, and to have spent most of his nights in posh surroundings in Georgetown rather than on the Mall with his buddies."


Both of Agnew's charges were false, according to Kerry and Walinsky, the former Kennedy aide to whom Agnew referred."

http://www.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry/061703.shtml
32 posted on 02/24/2004 10:41:07 AM PST by Hon
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To: Interesting Times
George Butler also did the "Pumping Iron" documentaries that helped make Arnold--if you want some irony in your diet.
33 posted on 02/24/2004 10:45:40 AM PST by Hon
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To: diotima
The Massachusetts senator denied the statements that were recorded by the Congressional Record as well as his own book.

"I hereby DENY my own words. What I said in 1971 never happened. I tossed the words down the Memory Hole."

34 posted on 02/24/2004 10:49:25 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Saddam Hussein was only 537 Florida votes away from still being in power)
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To: Interesting Times
In fact it is the same George Butler who had a hand in the recent attempt to smear Arnold as a Hitler worshipper:

"ABC News and The New York Times had carried statements Thursday attributed to Schwarzenegger in 1975 during the filming of the bodybuilding documentary "Pumping Iron." Schwarzenegger was said to have told an interviewer that he admired Hitler's rise to power and wished he could have experienced the thrill the Nazi leader must have had holding sway over huge audiences.

The news organizations said the remarks were contained in transcripts from a book proposal made by "Pumping Iron" director George Butler. On Friday, Butler, in a statement issued by the Schwarzenegger campaign, said the remarks were taken out of context or inaccurately quoted.

He added that he does not have the "Pumping Iron" outtakes, but said the transcripts show that earlier in the interview Schwarzenegger said that in Germany "they used power and authority but it was used in the wrong way."

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/10/4/153114.shtml
35 posted on 02/24/2004 10:50:15 AM PST by Hon
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To: Hon
Some of your posts seem like you are playing the 5th column roll. Do you listen to Moby?
36 posted on 02/24/2004 10:54:30 AM PST by FreeAtlanta
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To: Hon
Same guy who smeared Arnie. Interesting.

Two moments of minor leftist fame, widely separated in time...

37 posted on 02/24/2004 11:25:32 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: FreeAtlanta
Hon strikes me as principled and interested in the truth.

But even an unprincipled partisan won't use easy to refute lies against his opponent, if it will backfire.

It makes sense, both for principle and for winning, to stick to the truth.

38 posted on 02/24/2004 11:31:52 AM PST by secretagent
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To: diotima
Bump
39 posted on 02/24/2004 11:59:58 AM PST by SAMWolf (You've got to be really scummy to make Clinton look honest. - (Samwise, describing John Kerry))
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To: Hon
Kerry and Fonda are both listed under the section titled "Sponsors". They are also identified as speakers.

Hon, how is it you are such an expert on this subject, and what do you make of Kerry's denial that he ever said some of this stuff?
40 posted on 02/24/2004 12:50:47 PM PST by ConservativeMajority
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To: ConservativeMajority
"Kerry and Fonda are both listed under the section titled "Sponsors"."

Where exactly? I was going by this list:

I've been wrong before--even just today. I don't pretend to be an expert. I've welcomed being corrected.

41 posted on 02/24/2004 1:10:30 PM PST by Hon
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To: ConservativeMajority
"what do you make of Kerry's denial that he ever said some of this stuff?"

If he denies it, he's lying. The few times he has been (gently) confronted with this part of his past (such as on Meet The Press) he has said these were the words of an angry young man. He tries to have his cake and deny it too.

Right now he is actively targeting the Veteran vote. It is grotesque to say the least. I'm thinking he ought to put out bumper stickers like: "War Criminals For Kerry!"
42 posted on 02/24/2004 1:15:29 PM PST by Hon
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To: Hon
Try this one:
43 posted on 02/24/2004 1:22:27 PM PST by diotima
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To: diotima
and what's really interesting is one of the other sponsors, Rep. John D. Conyers, Jr. I guess we couldn't ask about his involvement in this without someone accusing us of racism.
44 posted on 02/24/2004 1:27:58 PM PST by ConservativeMajority
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To: diotima
Thanks. I wonder if he put up any money or whether he was a funnel for money.

According to Walinsky Kerry himself was broke at the time, and that is why Walinsky gave him money--for busses. And Kerry is listed as in charge of transportation.

It's said in one of the books that McGovern and Hatfield funneled $50,000 into the Dewey Canyon III demonstration--from a New York source.

In the books it is suggested that they kept Kerry around for his fundraising ability. I wonder who else he hit up besides Walinsky.
45 posted on 02/24/2004 1:37:10 PM PST by Hon
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To: Hon
Some rich widow, no doubt
46 posted on 02/24/2004 2:21:19 PM PST by ConservativeMajority
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To: itsinthebag
Fonda did admit during the CNN interview that she and Kerry spoke to the crowd. She mentioned something to the effect that she spoke, Sutherland spoke, etc and that Kerry spoke at the end. Fonda said she didn't remember meeting him and probably never shook hands. Pretty good memory for such an insignificant encounter. LOL
47 posted on 02/24/2004 2:27:25 PM PST by kabar
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To: Hon
From "Home to War" pg. 104-105:

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Even worse, the week before Dewey Canyon was to start, there was not a cent left in the VVAW treasury. John Kerry was certainly doing yeoman's service at fund-raising. He had given up his book contract with Random House in order to travel and speak throughout the country on behalf of VVAW; organizing, bringing in veterans, asking for donations -- working sometimes twenty hours a day. But when Phelan had trouble with the park permits, Kerry had to return to Washington to marshal a group of lawyers, and in the end Kerry negotiated many of the permits personally. This accomplished, he returned to the VVAW office, only to receive a phone call telling him that five thousand vets were waiting for their bus tickets to D.C., but no one knew where the money to purchase them would come from.

Kerry immediately got on the phone to some of the biggest Democratic Party fund-raisers in New York and set up a meeting. When it broke up, VVAW was $75,000 in the black, and busfare for at least a few hundred out-of-towners was assured.

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So, the Winter Soldier investigation was primarily financed by Fonda and Lane, but Dewey Canyon III was paid for by Democratic Party fund-raisers. Very interesting.

48 posted on 02/24/2004 2:36:26 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Interesting Times
I had just been trying to talk myself into scanning that book from p.98 to 104.

I love the stuff about Kerry forgoing his book contract with Random House. Oh, the heartache.

Of course he got another book deal later. And while I still haven't read it, from all accounts all he did was contribute the last chapter.

Why would Kerry have had a book contract before Dewey Canyon? Nobody had ever heard of him? Very fishy.
49 posted on 02/24/2004 2:53:30 PM PST by Hon
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To: Interesting Times
Check out p. 103. It gives a more exact time frame for when VVAW had members in Paris talking to the NLF (Viet Cong):

"Even as Shoup was speaking [March 16, 1971], VVAW had two representatives in Paris--including Native American veteran Mike Hunter, a former airborne ranger with a Silver Star--offering their apologies to the North Vietnamese for the genocide that had occurred at My Lai and elsewhere in Vietnam. Unfortunately, that private peace offering never made the papers."
50 posted on 02/24/2004 2:59:03 PM PST by Hon
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