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Website Exposes Kerry's 1971 Antiwar Book, Activities (FRN)
GOPUSA ^ | 2/24/04 | Jeff Gannon

Posted on 02/24/2004 6:06:53 AM PST by diotima

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1 posted on 02/24/2004 6:06:54 AM PST by diotima
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To: abner; DoughtyOne; Nick Danger; Bob J; Seeking the truth; MinuteGal; diotima; Libertina; ...
ping!
2 posted on 02/24/2004 6:08:17 AM PST by diotima
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To: Jeff Gannon
gannon-o-rama ping!
3 posted on 02/24/2004 6:12:02 AM PST by diotima
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To: diotima
Bump!
4 posted on 02/24/2004 6:12:13 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (What am I rebelling against? Well, what do ya got?)
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To: diotima; Jeff Head
Actually, carrying the US Flag upside down is a distress signal.

CF Jeff Head's Klamath bumper stickers. He has the 18 USC citation on it.

Good work btw.

5 posted on 02/24/2004 6:24:24 AM PST by sauropod (I'm Happy, You're Happy, We're ALL Happy! I'm happier than a pig in excrement. Can't you just tell?)
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To: diotima
Getting publicity!
6 posted on 02/24/2004 6:25:31 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: diotima
Jane Fonda appeared on CNN two weeks ago to explain that she and Kerry might not have even "shaken hands" at a Valley Forge, PA rally where the two were photographed together. But flyers distributed by VVAW for the Operation RAW (Rapid American Withdrawal) list Kerry and Fonda as speakers as well as sponsors.

I have a book in my possession entitled "The Winter Soldier Investigation" published in 1971 by the Veterans Against the Vietnam War. At the beginning of the book, they credit and thank Jane Fonda along with Donald Sutherland and others for contributing to the investigation. In the back of the book is a complete list of military personnel who testified. On the list is Lt. John Kerry. Although there is no testimony by him, he is credited with being there. So did Jane and John lie when they said they didn't really know each other?

7 posted on 02/24/2004 6:30:16 AM PST by itsinthebag
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To: itsinthebag
She's hoping you won't notice.
8 posted on 02/24/2004 6:31:25 AM PST by sauropod (I'm Happy, You're Happy, We're ALL Happy! I'm happier than a pig in excrement. Can't you just tell?)
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To: sauropod
Great wsork.
9 posted on 02/24/2004 6:33:02 AM PST by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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To: diotima
I call on John Kerry to stop keeping secrets, to let the American people know his true record. I call on John Kerry to release . . . his own book.
10 posted on 02/24/2004 6:33:22 AM PST by AmishDude ("[T]his-is-the-aging-of-the-dawn-of-Aquarius" -- Mark Steyn)
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To: diotima
Lucianne.com giving kudos to FreeRepublic for this expose.
11 posted on 02/24/2004 6:41:09 AM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: OldFriend; Interesting Times
Check out post 11, IT....
12 posted on 02/24/2004 6:43:15 AM PST by diotima
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To: itsinthebag
I have a book in my possession entitled "The Winter Soldier Investigation" published in 1971 by the Veterans Against the Vietnam War.

You may have a very rare book!

Two questions:

Did Al Hubbard write an introduction?

How does the book differ from the online version?

http://lists.village.virginia.edu/sixties/HTML_docs/Resources/Primary/Winter_Soldier/WS_entry.html

13 posted on 02/24/2004 6:49:58 AM PST by secretagent
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To: diotima
Kerry has lied so much someone should make a list of his lies.
14 posted on 02/24/2004 6:59:06 AM PST by Dante3
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To: diotima
I haven't seen this anywhere yet.. for what it is worth I got this is an email:

I know nothing about "Swift Boat" tactics so I can't judge the veracity of this letter. Maybe a more knowledgeable classmate can shine some light on this. It was forwarded to me by a high school classmate, USNA grad ('59) and Rear Admiral (Ret.)

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

Walt Plaue To: undisclosed-recipients:>
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 6:17 PM
Subject: John Kerry...You decide

Sent to me by an old shipmate....

I was in the Delta shortly after he left. I know that area well. I know the operations he was involved in well. I know the tactics and the doctrine used. I know the equipment. Although I was attached to CTF-116 (PBRs) I spent a fair amount of time with CTF-115 (swift boats), Kerry's command.
Here are my problems and suspicions:

(1) Kerry was in-country less than four months and collected, a Bronze Star, a Silver Star and three purple hearts. I never heard of anybody with any outfit I worked with (including SEAL One, the Sea Wolves, Riverines and the River Patrol Force) collecting that much hardware so fast, and for such pedestrian actions. The Swifts did a commendable job. But that duty wasn't the worst you could draw. They operated only along the coast and in the major rivers (Bassac and Mekong). The rough stuff in the hot areas was mainly handled by the smaller, faster PBRs. (2) Three Purple Hearts but no limp. All injuries so minor that no time lost from duty. Amazing luck. Or he was putting himself in for medals every time he bumped his head on the wheel house hatch? Combat on the boats was almost always at close range. You didn't have minor wounds. At least not often. Not three times in a row. Then he used the three purple hearts to request a trip home eight months before the end of his tour. Fishy. (3) The details of the event for which he was given the Silver Star make no sense at all. Supposedly, a B-40 was fired at the boat and missed. Charlie jumps up with the launcher in his hand, the bow gunner knocks him down with the twin .50, Kerry beaches the boat, jumps off, shoots Charlie, and retreives the launcher. If true, he did everything wrong.

(a) Standard procedure when you took rocket fire was to put your stern to the action and go balls to the wall. A B-40 has the ballistic integrity of a frisbie after about 25 yards, so you put 50 yards or so between you and the beach and begin raking it with your .50's.

(b) Did you ever see anybody get knocked down with a .50 caliber round and get up? The guy was dead or dying. The rocket launcher was empty. There was no reason to go after him (except if you knew he was no danger to you just flopping around in the dust during his last few seconds on earth, and you wanted some derring do in your after-action report). And we didn't shoot wounded people. We had rules against that, too.

(c) Kerry got off the boat. This was a major breach of standing procedures. Nobody on a boat crew ever got off a boat in a hot area. EVER! The reason was simple. If you had somebody on the beach your boat was defenseless. It coudn't run and it couldn' t return fire. It was stupid and it put his crew in danger. He should have been relieved and reprimanded. I never heard of any boat crewman ever leaving a boat during or after a firefight.

Something is fishy. Here we have a JFK wannabe (the guy Halsey wanted to court martial for carelessly losing his boat and getting a couple people killed by running across the bow of a Jap destroyer) who is hardly in Vietnam long enough to get good tan, collects medals faster than Audie Murphy in a job where lots of medals weren't common, gets sent home eight months early, requests separation from active duty a few months after that so he can run for Congress, finds out war heros don't sell well in Massachsetts in 1970 so reinvents himself as Jane Fonda, throws his ribbons in the dirt with the cameras running to jump start his political career, gets Stillborn Pell to invite him to address Congress and Bobby Kennedy's speechwriter to do the heavy lifting, winds up in the Senate himself a few years later, votes against every major defense bill, says the CIA is irrelevant after the Wall came down, votes against the Gulf War, a big mistake since that turned out well, decides not to make the same mistake twice so votes for invading Iraq, but oops, that didn't turn out so well

so he now says he really didn't mean for Bush to go to war when he voted to allow him to go to war.

I'm real glad you or I never had this guy covering out flanks in Vietnam. I sure don't want him as Commander in Chief. I hope that somebody from CTF-115 shows up with some facts challenging Kerry's Vietnam record. I know in my gut it's wildy inflated. And fishy.

Keep smiling,
Mike (usma1959-forum) Posted By: LEO Thomas W Jr 1959 22681 K2 < thomasleo@mindspring.com >

15 posted on 02/24/2004 7:07:36 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red ,white and blue!)
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To: diotima
If Kerry deserves to be President because he earned a "Silver Star" doesn't David Hackworth deserve to be President 10X as much as Kerry does?

Hackworth's won 10 Silver Stars.

16 posted on 02/24/2004 7:50:16 AM PST by syriacus (Kerry's on the record saying he chose a swift boat assignment because they saw less action.)
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I didn't mention....Hackworth has 8 purple hearts....Kerry has only three.
17 posted on 02/24/2004 7:52:29 AM PST by syriacus (Kerry's on the record saying he chose a swift boat assignment because they saw less action.)
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To: diotima
Just sent the news off to 100 of my closest conservative friends - as well as the local news radio station!
18 posted on 02/24/2004 8:07:32 AM PST by Rabid Dog (formerly Rabid Republican)
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Ventura County Chapter Ping

Chapter members - please visit www.wintersoldier.com - absolutely incredible what this guy is trying to get away with.
19 posted on 02/24/2004 8:10:42 AM PST by Rabid Dog (formerly Rabid Republican)
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To: AmishDude
Bush released all his military records for public scrutiny. Now, it is time for

John F. Kerry to release his military records!We just want to know who filed the requests and descriptions of his valor. That is all.

20 posted on 02/24/2004 9:54:29 AM PST by FreeAtlanta
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