Civilization Watch: Humpty-Dumpty Logic (Orson Scott Card on Gay Marriage)

The Rhinoceros Times, Greensboro, NC / The Ornery American ^ | February 15, 2004 | Orson Scott Card

[Sloth]

A long read, but great sociological insight.

[Sloth]

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[happygrl]

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[Tolik]

Orson Scott Card - moral clarity -  BUMP  [please freepmail me if you want or don't want to be pinged to Orson Scott Card political articles]

If you want to bookmark his articles discussed at FR: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/k-orsonscottcard/browse

His own political website: http://www.ornery.org/index.html  is heavily populated by American- and other Leftists who are delightfully annoyed by Mr. Card's conservatism. He does not post on that site and its moderated by somebody else. He is a registered Democrat upset with hijacking of his party by the Left.

His literary, non-political website: http://www.hatrack.com

His fresh articles appear in the Rhinoceros Times, Greensboro, NC: http://www.rhinotimes.com/greensboro/  (before being posted permanently on his ornery website). He has 2 columns in the RhinoTimes: one on political/international events, and the second one: reviews on movies, books, and anything he wants (!). I check his and  Michael Medved's  reviews and found myself reliably relying on them.

[Tolik]

Thanks for the ping.

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[.cnI redruM]

If OSC doesn't want to join the GOP, he'd make a great 3rd Party candidate. He makes way too much sense to remain a Democrat.

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[r9etb]

Regardless of their opinion of homosexual "marriage," every American who believes in democracy should be outraged that any court should take it upon itself to dictate such a social innovation without recourse to democratic process.

I do not believe in democracy, precisely because it relegates moral matters to the visceral whims of an uneducated and unpredictable public.

The Founders thought much the same way, which is why they created a Republic ("if [we] can keep it").

[Cicero]

As usual, Orson Scott Card is right on the money. But it's even better than usual. This is one of his strongest and best articles in some time.

Whether you believe in Darwinian evolution or traditional Christian morality (and the traditional morality of virtually every other society in world history until our perverted times), then the monogamous family is the only way you can build and pass on civilized values. A society that fails to reproduce itself and bring up its own young to reproduce themselves is bound to fail.

[Tanniker Smith]

Dang! I liked this -- and I haven't even finished it.

I just hope tomorrow doesn't come along with a "hoax notice" of any kind. In any case, it's a better read than "Ender's Game".

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The Stamp of Normality

[CatoRenasci]

Good read! I had no idea Card was so conservative.

[TheDon]

"Whether we home school our kids or not, we will withdraw them at an early age from any sense of belonging to contemporary American culture."

Very good insight, and it is already happening.

[Paradox]

I do not believe in democracy, precisely because it relegates moral matters to the visceral whims of an uneducated and unpredictable public.

I agree, in general. However there are issues, I believe, that lend themselves well to a democratic process. Like choosing ones representative. I think certain things like basic rights should NOT be on the table of democracy, however, for the reasons you stated.

In the case of marriage, I see it as a social contract, therefore, I think it does call for some democratic action.

[TheDon]

A democratic republic, of course. The people do still get to choose their representatives. If they choose poorly, well, we get the same results.

[King Black Robe]

You can't add a runway to an airport in America without years of carefully researched environmental impact statements. But you can radically reorder the fundamental social unit of society without political process or serious research.

Amazing.

[Paradox]

Good read! I had no idea Card was so conservative.

Nor did I. He is a democrat, in the Zell Miller mold.

I was happily surprised by his conservativism, since he authored one of my favorite books of all time (Ender's Game).

[Eva]

The real danger in redefining marriage to include homosexual relationships is the effect that this will have on religious freedom. All religions which oppose homosexuality will be declared bigoted and discriminatory. The left will have won. They will have instituted state control of religion, through the back door.

Maybe this is part of the reason they are so afraid of Mel Gibson's movie, it will make people that much more difficult to control.

[mvpel]

I guess he'd be what you'd call a "DINO" - Democrat in Name Only.