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Al Qaeda Builds a Euro Army
Debka.com ^ | February 25, 2004, 3:10 PM (GMT+02:00) | DEBKAfile

Posted on 02/25/2004 10:39:37 AM PST by Nachum

Warnings of al Qaeda’s continuing threat came Tuesday, February 24, from Washington and London as well as one of its top leaders. Addressing the Senate intelligence committee, CIA director George Tenet spoke of the spread of al Qaeda’s radical agenda to local groups who now threaten the United States and are capable of 9/11 scale attacks.

British interior secretary David Blunkett, announcing new stringent measures to combat terror, said a terrorist attack on Britain was “inevitable.”

Pointing up these statements, Osama bin Laden’s deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri gave not one but two signs that his group was still after “Crusader” blood. Two recorded audiotapes reached the rival Arab TV stations, al Jazeera and al Arabiya. In one he threatened the United States with fresh attacks; the other condemned the French for banning the headscarf for Muslim schoolgirls. The Egyptian terrorist chief declared that the claim by US president George W. Bush that two-thirds of al Qaeda’s leadership has been crushed was untrue.

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His assertion had been confirmed previously by the preliminary findings of a joint defense department-CIA inquiry ordered by the US President.

According to DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s counter-terrorism sources in Washington, al Qaeda’s backbone and that of its partner, al-Zawahiri’s Egyptian Islamic Jihad are intact and fully operational. The Egyptian half of al Qaeda in particular has led a charmed existence. Since America's 2001 invasion of Afghanistan, only two senior Jihad operatives have been killed and not a single active member captured. The team found this discovery alarming enough to rush to Bush and warn him: “We have a gap in our intelligence the size of a big black hole.”

Even more disquietingly, al Qaeda is discovered to be recruiting manpower in Europe at a brisk pace in a push into the continent personally advocated by Osama bin Laden. The Saudi-born terrorist has thus gained the upper hand in a debate within his organization’s top leadership over its next focal arena. Bin Laden urged fostering the war on the “far enemy” (Europe) as against concentrating the movement’s fury on the “near enemy” (Saudi Arabia, Iraq, South Asia).

The European arena, often neglected by American counter-terrorism agencies, is showing a dangerous dynamism. Data assembled for a preliminary assessment show al Qaeda in the process of evolving from terrorist networks and cells into a professional fighting force with military features.

According to French counter-intelligence, al Qaeda has recruited in France alone between 35,000 and 45,000 men and is organizing them into military-style units. They meet regularly for training in the use of weapons and explosives, combat tactics and indoctrination and are controlled from local and district command centers under the organization’s national French command.

In Germany, Al Qaeda has recruited 25,000 to 30,000 men. The British domestic intelligence agency MI5 estimates 10,000 faithful have joined up in Britain, providing Blunkett with more than ample cause for concern.

Al Qaeda is a lot less active in Italy where counter-terrorist agencies hunt its cells to earth relentlessly. Moreover, al Qaeda does not need an important foothold in Italy because it already maintains a thriving presence next door in the Balkan countries of Albania, Kosovo and Macedonia, from which weapons, money and false documents are easily secreted to its European bases.

But unknown numbers are enlisting in Belgium, Switzerland, Holland, Sweden and Norway.

Recruitment across Europe continues apace and in greater secrecy than ever as a result of a switch to new recruiting techniques and appeal to fresh target-populations for building the Euro army. According to DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s counter-terrorism sources, the authors of the interim report found that al Qaeda, intent on beating surveillance and penetration by intelligence services, no longer selects combatants at its usual hunting grounds in mosques, Islamic culture centers and Muslim immigrant neighborhoods. Instead, native Europeans freshly converted to Islam are targeted.

The new campaign is styled “the white recruitment drive” or “coffee shop conscription”. Operational cells and recruiting agents patronize ordinary cafes on the high streets of Europe’s major cities where they blend into the crowds. The new conscripts defy identification by European intelligence services because their Islamic lives are lived completely underground. There is therefore no way of finding their addresses telephone numbers. Unit-level meetings or training sessions, attended by 30 or 40 men, may take place under cover of social activity such as a holiday camp in a remote part of Europe. Tracking them down is getting harder as bin Laden’s new Euro army expands at the rate of tens of thousands and when “white” recruits may already form some 25 percent of the total.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaedabalkans; alqaedagermany; alqaedauk; balkans; builds; debka; euroarmy; jihadineurope; recruits; zawahiri

1 posted on 02/25/2004 10:39:38 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum
This is not good news, by any measure.

I think a bunch of the *white* Islamist terrorists are already here and will enact the "Beltway Sniper" routine in 20 or 30 major US cities. Suicide bombings in schools, malls, hospitals, house-to-house assassinations, police ambushes - there was an article on FR in '02 about these tactics; can't find it now - which detailed all kinds of murderous tactics.

Sure hope I'm wrong. It'd much easier to spot and kill the ME types than the Euro-Islamo-killers.
2 posted on 02/25/2004 10:53:41 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (Dogs have masters; Cats have staff...)
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To: Nachum
The new conscripts defy identification by European intelligence services because their Islamic lives are lived completely underground. There is therefore no way of finding their addresses telephone numbers.

So exactly how, then, can Debka provide estimates as to their numbers?

3 posted on 02/25/2004 10:57:44 AM PST by dirtboy (Howard, we hardly knew ye. Not that we're complaining, mind you...)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm
Ah Debka.

98% incredible.
2% credible.

And thats generous.
4 posted on 02/25/2004 11:07:33 AM PST by mad puppy
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To: Nachum
According to French counter-intelligence, al Qaeda has recruited in France alone between 35,000 and 45,000 men

What an absolutely laughable number.

Wonder how long it will take the FReepers with their noses wedged well into the lower digestive tracts of DUMBKA to show up and bash those who make fun of them.

I very seriously doubt whether AQ has ever had more than a 1,000 actual "operatives" WORLDWIDE.

5 posted on 02/25/2004 11:44:48 AM PST by John H K
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To: John H K
Debka or no Debka, I would argue that you vastly underestimate the numbers of Wahabbist Muslims that are ready to wage war with the west.

I would urge you to read Dore Gold's book Hatred's Kingdom". He gives a detailed history of the Wahabbist movement, the wars it has fought for more than 200 years of middle eastern history and the kind of money that has been pumped into it by the Saudis. Wahabbism is rampant in much of the middle east and the west has grossly underestimated it.

Much of the the Chechen army was influenced by the Wahabbists, as is the Muslim brotherhood, Hamas, and huge numbers of madrassas in Pakistan and Afghanistan. The Taliban are born of the Wahabbists. I wish that you were correct, but the evidence is great that I am.

6 posted on 02/25/2004 11:52:21 AM PST by Nachum (It's not my fault! I didn't do it. You can't prove anything.)
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To: mad puppy
I'm not familiar with Debka. Sounds like they're not too credible on such issues? Yikes, that's not a very good track record. maybe if they throw enough *stuff* against the wall, some of it'll stick.

Doing some FR-searching to learn about Debka...
7 posted on 02/25/2004 12:04:43 PM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (Dogs have masters; Cats have staff...)
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To: Nachum
AQ is a misnomer and red herring.

Your view is far more accurate.

There is essentially no difference between an observing salafiwahhabmuslimbrotherhood type of individual and AQ.
The essential philosophy is identical, and this face of islam, it's totalitarian side, has used AQ type shocktroops, inspired by Ibn Tammiyah of the 7-8th century, since virtually the first days of islam.

It's the face we need to ruthlessly smash.
8 posted on 02/25/2004 12:10:10 PM PST by swarthyguy (You have to remember that if you grow thorns, you will not harvest roses - Ayman Al-Zawahiri)
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To: Nachum
My take is that the recruitment numbers may be exaggerated, but essentially this drive, running for a long time, prior to 9.11 has culminated in some serious threat issues.

Thus this info being put out there.

We don't know who the nutty blue eyed jihadis are.
9 posted on 02/25/2004 12:11:50 PM PST by swarthyguy (You have to remember that if you grow thorns, you will not harvest roses - Ayman Al-Zawahiri)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm; John H K; swarthyguy
Debka?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/541824/posts
10 posted on 02/25/2004 12:59:55 PM PST by Shermy
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To: 7.62 x 51mm
You are taking this "source" seriously? Hilarious stuff.
11 posted on 02/25/2004 1:21:29 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: swarthyguy
AQ is the modern Wahabbist movement. Bin Ladin is considered the successor to Wahab. It is not a red herring, it is the logical extension of Wahabbist murder and brutality. It is only that we in the west misunderstand what is going on.
12 posted on 02/25/2004 1:27:49 PM PST by Nachum (It's not my fault! I didn't do it. You can't prove anything.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
We'll see who's laughing when those Chinese infantry units in Afghanistan, Africa, and Idaho(!) make their presence felt.

If it's hugh and series, Debka can be counted on to report it when others won't. = )

13 posted on 02/25/2004 1:34:07 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Nachum
That's what I meant by red herring. SHould've clarified that.

It's a Saudi created herring designed to distract us from the aims, goals and aspirations of the Saudi State.

Successful too, witness the reticence to publicly finger the Saudis.

Sophisticated enough to take advantage of certain blindspots regarding the Saudis on our part; economic, sociological, historical.
14 posted on 02/25/2004 1:36:08 PM PST by swarthyguy (You have to remember that if you grow thorns, you will not harvest roses - Ayman Al-Zawahiri)
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To: Hoplite
When they reach Sparta then you'll really be in trouble.
15 posted on 02/25/2004 1:46:33 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: Calpernia; JustPiper
Poing.
16 posted on 02/25/2004 2:01:11 PM PST by swarthyguy (You have to remember that if you grow thorns, you will not harvest roses - Ayman Al-Zawahiri)
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To: swarthyguy
Poing right back at ya :))
17 posted on 02/25/2004 2:16:50 PM PST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: swarthyguy
There is an ongoing effort to distract the people of the west from the Wahabbists in the country who have such violent power. Red Herrings with out end.
18 posted on 02/25/2004 4:32:04 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum; Destro
destro - didn't Clinton's Bosnian Buddies give Osama honoray citzenship ? - didn't the 9/11 killers have some ties to Clinton's Bosnian Buddies ?
19 posted on 02/26/2004 12:40:27 AM PST by ehoxha
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To: justshutupandtakeit
See my post #7.
20 posted on 02/26/2004 10:33:42 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (Dogs have masters; Cats have staff...)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm
You will find that DEBKA is prone to announcing some very strange stuff. We consider it as less reputable than the National Inquirer.
21 posted on 02/26/2004 12:00:00 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: Nachum
Please don't post anything from DEBKA as they are not a reliable source.
22 posted on 02/26/2004 12:01:16 PM PST by ChadGore ("Maybe they thought Saddam would lose the next Iraqi election")
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To: justshutupandtakeit
I hadn't heard of them before signing-up here last month. But I've done some searching in FR's archives on Debka, this morning, and see now that they're quite a bit less than a reliable source. Thanks for the tip-off. Still feeling my way around the place...
23 posted on 02/26/2004 12:15:42 PM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (Dogs have masters; Cats have staff...)
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To: Nachum
This is very good news. Debka is never right.
24 posted on 02/26/2004 12:18:09 PM PST by Tribune7 (Vote Toomey April 27)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm
It is typical to see a headline jump on it and find it to be from DEBKA at which point we generally say "Aw, shiite" because the headlines are always so intriguing. One would think their writers are finding out the subjects which most intrigue FReepers and tailoring their stories to them.

Welcome aboard. You will find this place more educational than the Encyclopedia Brittanica. People here know about EVERYTHING though it might take some effort to seperate those who know from those who just think they know.
25 posted on 02/26/2004 12:30:13 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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