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Kerry’s Soviet Rhetoric
National Review Online ^ | 02/26/04 | Ion Mihai Pacepa

Posted on 02/26/2004 6:22:48 AM PST by fsorbello

The KGB campaign to assault the U.S. and Europe by means of disinformation was more than just a few Cold War dirty tricks. The whole foreign policy of the Soviet-bloc states, indeed its whole economic and military might, revolved around the larger Soviet objective of destroying America from within through the use of lies. The Soviets saw disinformation as a vital tool in the dialectical advance of world Communism.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; ionmihaipacepa; kerry; pacepa; puppet; soviet
Very interesting article by former KGB operative who claims much of Kerry's (and Europe's) anti-war rhetoric was carefully planned and placed by the KGB in an effort to discredit the USA.
1 posted on 02/26/2004 6:22:48 AM PST by fsorbello
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To: fsorbello
Kerry: a useful idiot.
2 posted on 02/26/2004 6:28:24 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: fsorbello
I've thought this for years. The entire article ...

Part of Senator John Kerry's appeal to a certain segment of Americans is his Vietnam-veteran status coupled with his antiwar activism during that period. On April 12, 1971, Kerry told the U.S. Congress that American soldiers claimed to him that they had, "raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned on the power, cut off limbs, blew up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in a fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan."

The exact sources of that assertion should be tracked down. Kerry also ought to be asked who, exactly, told him any such thing, and what it was, exactly, that they said they did in Vietnam. Statutes of limitation now protect these individuals from prosecution for any such admissions. Or did Senator Kerry merely hear allegations of that sort as hearsay bandied about by members of antiwar groups (much of which has since been discredited)? To me, this assertion sounds exactly like the disinformation line that the Soviets were sowing worldwide throughout the Vietnam era. KGB priority number one at that time was to damage American power, judgment, and credibility. One of its favorite tools was the fabrication of such evidence as photographs and "news reports" about invented American war atrocities. These tales were purveyed in KGB-operated magazines that would then flack them to reputable news organizations. Often enough, they would be picked up. News organizations are notoriously sloppy about verifying their sources. All in all, it was amazingly easy for Soviet-bloc spy organizations to fake many such reports and spread them around the free world.

As a spy chief and a general in the former Soviet satellite of Romania, I produced the very same vitriol Kerry repeated to the U.S. Congress almost word for word and planted it in leftist movements throughout Europe. KGB chairman Yuri Andropov managed our anti-Vietnam War operation. He often bragged about having damaged the U.S. foreign-policy consensus, poisoned domestic debate in the U.S., and built a credibility gap between America and European public opinion through our disinformation operations. Vietnam was, he once told me, "our most significant success."

The KGB organized a vitriolic conference in Stockholm to condemn America's aggression, on March 8, 1965, as the first American troops arrived in south Vietnam. On Andropov's orders, one of the KGB's paid agents, Romesh Chandra, the chairman of the KGB-financed World Peace Council, created the Stockholm Conference on Vietnam as a permanent international organization to aid or to conduct operations to help Americans dodge the draft or defect, to demoralize its army with anti-American propaganda, to conduct protests, demonstrations, and boycotts, and to sanction anyone connected with the war. It was staffed by Soviet-bloc undercover intelligence officers and received about $15 million annually from the Communist Party's international department — on top of the WPC's $50 million a year, all delivered in laundered cash dollars. Both groups had Soviet-style secretariats to manage their general activities, Soviet-style working committees to conduct their day-to-day operations, and Soviet-style bureaucratic paperwork. The quote from Senator Kerry is unmistakable Soviet-style sloganeering from this period. I believe it is very like a direct quote from one of these organizations' propaganda sheets.

The KGB campaign to assault the U.S. and Europe by means of disinformation was more than just a few Cold War dirty tricks. The whole foreign policy of the Soviet-bloc states, indeed its whole economic and military might, revolved around the larger Soviet objective of destroying America from within through the use of lies. The Soviets saw disinformation as a vital tool in the dialectical advance of world Communism.

The Stockholm conference held annual international meetings up to 1972. In its five years of existence it created thousands of "documentary" materials printed in all the major Western languages describing the "abominable crimes" committed by American soldiers against civilians in Vietnam, along with counterfeited pictures. All these materials were manufactured by the KGB's disinformation department. I would print up these materials in hundreds of thousands of copies each.

The Romanian DIE (Ceausescu's secret police) was tasked to distribute these KGB-concocted "incriminating documents" all over Western Europe. And ordinary people often bought it hook, line, and sinker. "Even Attila the Hun looks like an angel when compared to these Americans," a West German businessman reprovingly told me after reading one such report.

The Italian, Greek, and Spanish Communist parties serviced by Bucharest were much affected by this material and their activists regularly distributed translations. They also handed them out to the participants at anti-American demonstrations around the world.

Many "Ban-the-Bomb" and anti-nuclear movements were KGB-funded operations, too. I can no longer look at a petition for world peace or other supposedly noble cause, particularly of the anti-American variety, without thinking to myself, "KGB."

In 1978, when I broke with Communism, my DIE was propagating the line that Washington's adventure in Vietnam had wasted over $200 trillion. This waste, we warned darkly, would soon generate European inflation, recession, and unemployment.

As far as I'm concerned, the KGB gave birth to the antiwar movement in America. In 1976, Andropov gave my own Romanian DIE credit for helping his KGB do so.

A former prisoner of war in Vietnam tells the following story about one pathetic pawn of KGB disinformation, Jane Fonda. In 1978, there was a meeting in Hanoi between American POWs and a "peace delegation" led by Fonda, who had gone to north Vietnam without U.S. approval. In order to let the world know that they were still alive, the American prisoners secretly palmed tiny slips of paper with their Social Security numbers on them. As they were paraded before Jane Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line and asked polite little questions, such as: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and, "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this had to be an act, the prisoners all slipped her their messages. She took them all, but once the camera stopped rolling, she turned to the north Vietnamese officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three prisoners died from their subsequent beatings.

Leftist intellectuals in America now look to Europe — steeped for years in anti-American propaganda from the Soviet Union — for "a sane and frank European criticism of the Bush administration's war policy." Indeed, anti-Americanism in Europe today is almost as ferocious as it was during Vietnam. France and Germany insist we are torturing the al Qaeda prisoners held at Guantanamo Base. The Mirror, a British newspaper, is confident that President Bush and Prime Minister Tony Blair were "killing innocents in Afghanistan." The Paris daily Le Monde put Jean Baudrillard on its front page asserting that "the Judeo-Christian West, led by America, not only provoked the [September 11] terrorist attacks, it actually desired them."

In June 2002, a documentary film on "U.S. war crimes" in Afghanistan was shown in the German Bundestag by the crypto-Communist Party of Democratic Socialism (PDS). The film faithfully reincarnated the style of old Soviet-bloc "documentaries" demonizing the U.S. war in Vietnam. According to this 20-minute movie, American soldiers were involved in the torture and murder of some 3,000 Taliban prisoners in the region of Mazar-e-Sharif. One witness in the film even claimed he had seen an American soldier break the neck of one Afghan prisoner and pour acid on others.

During my last meeting with Andropov, he said, wisely, "now all we have to do is to keep the Vietnam-era anti-Americanism alive." Andropov was a shrewd judge of human nature. He understood that in the end our original involvement would be forgotten, and our insinuations would take on a life of their own. He knew well that it was just the way human nature worked.

— Ion Mihai Pacepa was acting chief of Romania's espionage service and national-security adviser to the country's president. He is the highest-ranking intelligence officer ever to have defected from the former Soviet bloc.

3 posted on 02/26/2004 6:33:24 AM PST by bassmaner (Let's take the word "liberal" back from the commies!!)
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To: bassmaner
As they were paraded before Jane Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line and asked polite little questions, such as: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and, "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this had to be an act, the prisoners all slipped her their messages. She took them all, but once the camera stopped rolling, she turned to the north Vietnamese officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three prisoners died from their subsequent beatings.

This is just part of the baggage that John Kerry would bring to the presidency. Maybe he would issue Fonda a pardon for her crimes. It is a shame no one had the guts to charge her.

4 posted on 02/26/2004 6:39:56 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("Not Fonda Kerry")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Kerry: a useful idiot.

...but a darned fine lounge singer! :-)

5 posted on 02/26/2004 6:41:19 AM PST by COBOL2Java (If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, thank a soldier.)
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To: COBOL2Java; redlipstick
Thanks to redlipstick for finding this cartoon for me today. A much better view that I have of John F'ing Kerry.


6 posted on 02/26/2004 6:55:58 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (WARNING! DumbocRATs never met a tax increase they didn't like.)
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To: bassmaner
FYI...I believe the bit about Hanoi Jane handing the messages (which, according to some sources were SSN's) has been debunked...
7 posted on 02/26/2004 7:04:13 AM PST by kahoutek ((A conservative is a liberal who's been mugged))
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
FReeper alisasny equates him with the Manchurian candidate.
8 posted on 02/26/2004 7:10:55 AM PST by tiki
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To: bassmaner
The only problem with this material is that Andropov did not became the head of the KGB until 1967. Wikipedia on Andropov
9 posted on 02/26/2004 7:16:56 AM PST by alex
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To: fsorbello
The KGB campaign to assault the U.S. and Europe by means of disinformation was more than just a few Cold War dirty tricks. The whole foreign policy of the Soviet-bloc states, indeed its whole economic and military might, revolved around the larger Soviet objective of destroying America from within through the use of lies.

Which makes even more interesting Bill Clinton's trip to Moscow in '70, doesn't it?

10 posted on 02/26/2004 7:20:14 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: bassmaner
Kerry also ought to be asked who, exactly, told him any such thing, and what it was, exactly, that they said they did in Vietnam.

No secret there. Kerry cited the Winter Soldier Investigation, excerpts of which got read into the Congressional Record. Click here for online WSI excerpts - several named individuals testify to war crimes:

http://lists.village.virginia.edu/sixties/HTML_docs/Resources/Primary/Winter_Soldier/WS_entry.html

I've yet to see a single witness in the WSI debunked, and I've put hours into it.

Some of the people around WSI have suffered exposure as frauds, like VVAW executive Al Hubbard, but not within the WSI itself.

It won't surprise me if a WSI debunking happens, but it hasn't happened yet, as far as I can see. The best site for the debunking evidence so far:

http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/

11 posted on 02/26/2004 7:25:16 AM PST by secretagent
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To: kahoutek
While her taking up and handing the messages to the enemy is not true, she was still atraitor. This from Snopes:

Claim:
During a 1972 trip to North Vietnam, Jane Fonda propagandized on behalf of the North Vietnamese government, declared that American POWs were being treated humanely and condemned U.S. soldiers as "war criminals" and later denounced them as liars for claiming they had been tortured.

Status:
True.

12 posted on 02/26/2004 7:29:18 AM PST by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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To: alex
That's not a problem: evidently Andropov was in charge of the anti-U.S.-in-Vietnam agitprop campaign before he became head of the KGB. Perhaps it was his success which lead to his elevation.
13 posted on 02/26/2004 7:55:28 AM PST by The_Reader_David
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To: fsorbello
An unfortunate article. True or not, it is so extreme that few will believe, instead seeing it as hyperbole. The result is, far better documented Kerryisms will also be discounted as "wacko ideas".
14 posted on 02/26/2004 9:09:28 AM PST by XHogPilot
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To: XHogPilot
Why would you think that writings of Ion Mihai Pacepa (see all of these: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/k-ionmihaipacepa/browse ) are not credible?

He had ultimate-insider's access to top secrets of the Soviet Block. After his defection he was thoroughly debriefed by Western spy agencies. He has a few books out.

I admit its practically impossible to verify his writings unless one has access to the KGB's and satellites' archives. But the puzzle pieces he contributes fit so nicely with lots of smaller pieces already in the puzzle of what we know about modus operandi of the Soviet/KGB propaganda machine. There is a chance that he "INVENTS" all his stuff, but I don't think so. Nothing he wrote in all his articles, and I try not to miss them for the last few years, struck me as unbelievable.

It's more like Hess, Rosenbergs and all McCarthy "witch hunt": nasty individual he was or not, the funny thing that witches WERE there.

 

15 posted on 02/26/2004 9:57:39 AM PST by Tolik
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To: Tolik
Hess=Hiss
16 posted on 02/26/2004 11:03:10 AM PST by Tolik
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To: fsorbello
It is Mihai Pacepa. Guy is fairytaller. I remember his previous piece about WMD of Saddam.

"..Here is Pacepa's case. The Soviets and their allies
always had a "standard operating procedure" for getting rid of weapons of mass destruction. Pacepa himself implemented the S.O.P. in Libya.
Saddam had such a procedure in place; Romanian dictator Nicolae Ceausescu "told me so," Pacepa says, and so did Primakov, who "in the late 1970's…ran Saddam's weapons programs." There is a problem with this assertion, because Saddam did not officially come to power until July of 1979, and Ceausescu certainly was not chatting up Pacepa after the latter's 1978 defection. However, Saddam was the power behind the throne of his cousin General Ahmad Hassan al-Bakr, who assumed control of Iraq in a 1968 coup d'etat, so it all may be true at least de facto, if not de jure. But Pacepa needs to explain just how this part of the story works to have real credibility.
.." http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/969499/posts

You see same thing again in this article.

"...The KGB organized a vitriolic conference in Stockholm to condemn America's aggression, on March 8, 1965, as the first American troops arrived in south Vietnam. On Andropov's orders, one of the KGB's paid agents, Romesh Chandra, the chairman of the KGB-financed World Peace Council, created the Stockholm Conference on Vietnam as a permanent international organization to aid or to conduct operations to help Americans dodge the draft or defect, to demoralize its army with anti-American propaganda, to conduct protests, demonstrations, and boycotts, and to sanction anyone connected with the war. ..."

According of Andropov biography he was appointed as Head of KGB in 1967 so he cann't give no orders to KGB in 1965. SO either Andropov lied to Pacepa or Pacepa is fairytaller.

SImce like Pacepa likes to tell something "intruging and hot" without regards to real facts:)).
17 posted on 02/26/2004 11:47:53 AM PST by RusIvan
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To: RusIvan
By saying the KGB organized the effort in 1965 and then saying under Andropov's orders doesn't connect him to being the head of the KGB. The writer never claimed that.

But I'd think that Andropov would be in the position of passing orders along since he was the head of the Department for Liaison with Socialist Countries (1957-1967).

18 posted on 02/26/2004 5:26:01 PM PST by Fledermaus (This Tagline For Rent!)
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To: Fledermaus
Lets read again his article: "...KGB chairman Yuri Andropov managed our anti-Vietnam War operation. He often bragged about having damaged the U.S. foreign-policy consensus, poisoned domestic debate in the U.S., and built a credibility gap between America and European public opinion through our disinformation operations. Vietnam was, he once told me, "our most significant success." The KGB organized a vitriolic conference in Stockholm to condemn America's aggression, on March 8, 1965, as the first American troops arrived in south Vietnam. On Andropov's orders, one of the KGB's paid agents, Romesh Chandra, the chairman of the KGB-financed World Peace Council, created the Stockholm Conference on Vietnam as a permanent international organization to aid or to conduct operations to help Americans dodge the draft or defect, to demoralize its army with anti-American propaganda, to conduct protests, demonstrations, and boycotts, and to sanction anyone connected with the war. .."

I undestand that Andropov being KGB head for 16 years did many bad things. One more accusation isn't change anything.

It is more about credability of author.

If he accuses someone of doing thing at least he may be more in line with facts. But he doesn't and already second time.

19 posted on 02/26/2004 8:57:59 PM PST by RusIvan
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To: COBOL2Java
This is my favorite picture of the lizard lounge.


20 posted on 02/26/2004 9:33:14 PM PST by Utah Girl
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To: fsorbello
"Hanoi John" Kerry - KGB Talking Meat Puppet bump.
21 posted on 02/26/2004 11:42:17 PM PST by VxH (This species has amused itself to death.)
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To: Utah Girl
LOL! He looks like an Everly Brothers wannabe!
22 posted on 02/27/2004 6:13:25 AM PST by COBOL2Java (If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, thank a soldier.)
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To: fsorbello
Thank you for posting. This is a very important piece. The whole antiwar movement was and is communist backed propaganda. And like Lenin said of the liberals, they were and are "useful idiots!" Semper Fi, Kelly
23 posted on 02/27/2004 8:54:22 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. "C" 1/5 1st Mar Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi VOTE "NO" ON PROPOSITIONS 55-58)
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To: fsorbello
BTW I was interviewed on the Laura Ingraham radio show Tuesday and for those of you who didn't hear the show, I told Laura that I was with the 1st Battalion, 5th Marines in Viet Nam in 1969 & 1970. I walked point and had access to Marine Corps intelligence during those years and I can say unequivocally that there were no "mass atrocities" in Viet Nam. PERIOD! I also told Laura that Kerry was and is a bald faced liar! I understand that Kerry has since "backed off" those slanderous accusations. Semper Fi, Kelly
24 posted on 02/27/2004 9:12:40 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. "C" 1/5 1st Mar Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi VOTE "NO" ON PROPOSITIONS 55-58)
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To: XHogPilot
***". True or not, it is so extreme that few will believe"***

The way I deal with this 'problem' is by role reversal. Start with a known fact: The US has enemies, then I ask "Imagine the United States your arch enemy. What would YOU do?". The 'extreme' becomes 'plausible' rather quickly.
25 posted on 02/27/2004 2:25:22 PM PST by SolutionsOnly
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To: kellynla
Thanks for speaking up! I'm tired of the propaganda going unchallenged!
26 posted on 02/27/2004 2:27:06 PM PST by SolutionsOnly
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To: COBOL2Java
looks more like a dweeb to me! :-)
27 posted on 02/27/2004 2:28:03 PM PST by SolutionsOnly
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I think I'll keep track of this one, full text in post #3.

And a related story: Vetting the Vet Record. Is Kerry a proud war hero or angry antiwar protester?

28 posted on 03/21/2004 5:36:22 PM PST by concentric circles
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To: Watery Tart

Bump!


29 posted on 10/16/2004 5:03:16 AM PDT by bad company (Global test? Damn I forgot to study.)
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To: Watery Tart

I've heard the stories but this gives me the documentation I wanted. Thanks!


30 posted on 10/16/2004 5:04:46 AM PDT by bad company (Global test? Damn I forgot to study.)
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To: bad company
BUMP

This article, and especially that one line, have stayed me since I first read it. It is so descriptive of this campaign cycle -- the useful idiot protesters, the useful idiot Xlintons; and not the least, that most productive of useful idiots, al-Q'erry.

I believe you can re-post it if you indicate in the headline that it's a re-post.

Apparently it didn't need excerpting?

31 posted on 10/16/2004 5:19:36 AM PDT by Watery Tart (buckhead/pukin dog ‘08)
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