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Cops: Teen killed for the challenge
Chicago Tribune on-line ^ | February 26, 2004 | Carrie Antlfinger, AP

Posted on 02/26/2004 12:08:58 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

WEYAUWEGA, Wis. -- Gary Hirte, a high school scholar, star athlete and Eagle Scout whose name seemed to be in the local paper all the time, is accused of committing murder--not for money or revenge, but just to see if he could get away with it.

The Weyauwega-Fremont High senior's arrest last month was met with shock and disbelief in this town of 1,800, where Hirte has long been held in high esteem. The 18-year-old was accused of killing 37-year-old Glenn Kopitske.

"He wanted to see if he could do this. It was like a challenge for him," sheriff's Capt. Steve Verwiel said. "I would attribute it to arrogance."

Defense attorney Gerald Boyle said Hirte claims he was not involved in the murder. Boyle said Hirte will plead not guilty at his arraignment Thursday.

Authorities said Hirte told friends about the crime, but none took him seriously. Finally, five months after the slaying, a girl he once dated went to police because she feared he would commit suicide out of remorse.

Hirte apparently sought out and stalked Kopitske, a substitute teacher who ran unsuccessfully for state Assembly in 2000, authorities said.

Kopitske was found dead Aug. 2 in his house outside Weyauwega. He had been shot in the head, stabbed twice in the back and once in the heart.

The arrest has shaken this community about 90 miles north of Madison.

Hirte was the city's first Eagle Scout in 20 years. He was an honor student and a 6-foot-4, 270-pound member of the track, wrestling and football teams, and has a steady 14-year-old girlfriend. Readers of the town's weekly paper knew all about his achievements.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: boyscout; bsa; eaglescout; eaglescouts; hirte; insaneteenager; kopitske; murder; teenagers; teencrime
Even with all his "honors", it's apparent this kid didn't think about the ramifications of his actions.

Please go the source URL and read the whole story.

1 posted on 02/26/2004 12:09:00 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Interesting ...

Also noted that this stellar 18-year old had a 14-year old girlfriend.

Can you say "statutory rape"?
I knew you could.

2 posted on 02/26/2004 12:13:28 PM PST by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Not surprising... he was treated like a God in this little town.
3 posted on 02/26/2004 12:13:46 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe ("Fellow citizens, we cannot escape history." -Abraham Lincoln, 1862)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
I was told by a famous criminalogist that if I ever awakened in the middle of the night with a prowler in my home, I'd better PRAY it's an adult and not a teen.

He said law enforcement is seeing a staggering amount of teens murdering "just because they want to see what it's like to see someone die."
5 posted on 02/26/2004 12:17:59 PM PST by Humidston (Two Words: TERM LIMITS)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Mayor Howard Quimby

You've got to be kidding me. Mayor Quimby?


6 posted on 02/26/2004 12:18:37 PM PST by Damocles (sword of...)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Apparently a massive ego on this kid. And you'd think being an Eagle Scout he might have been church-going at some point in his life? (In small towns, the Scout groups usually meet at churches.) Which part of "Thou shall not Kill" did this kid miss in his education?
7 posted on 02/26/2004 12:20:03 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: Humidston
I was told by a famous criminalogist that if I ever awakened in the middle of the night with a prowler in my home, I'd better PRAY it's an adult and not a teen.

Yeah, and just to think Mayor Daley is throwing away the teenage curfew laws in the City of Chicago. THAT oughta keep crime down in the 'hood!

8 posted on 02/26/2004 12:22:08 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: BlueLancer
Also noted that this stellar 18-year old had a 14-year old girlfriend. Can you say "statutory rape"?

You're assuming they were having sex. Maybe not.

Then again, if he was willing to commit murder, fornication probably isn't too big a deal to him.

9 posted on 02/26/2004 12:22:42 PM PST by Rytwyng
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To: BlueLancer
Also noted that this stellar 18-year old had a 14-year old girlfriend. Can you say "statutory rape"?

You're assuming they were having sex. Maybe not.

Then again, if he was willing to commit murder, fornication probably isn't too big a deal to him.

10 posted on 02/26/2004 12:22:48 PM PST by Rytwyng
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To: Damocles
Yes, amazing, isn't it? There is a for-real Mayor Quimby.
11 posted on 02/26/2004 12:23:52 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Mayor Daley - Typical Rat politician. Not long on brains!

Today's street teens are dangerous!
12 posted on 02/26/2004 12:26:17 PM PST by Humidston (Two Words: TERM LIMITS)
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To: Humidston
I tried digging around the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel's website for this story, which came out on the AP wire service. So far, all I see is the notice posted in 2002 when Hirte became an Eagle Scout. I've already sent a e-mail to them asking about when this story will appear in their newspaper.
13 posted on 02/26/2004 12:37:58 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
IF this is true and he is found guilty of the murder, it would be somewhat reminiscent of the Leopold-Loeb murders, where two geniuses from wealthy local families who were students at the Univ. of Chicago decided to murder Bobby Franks to see if they could commit the perfect crime. No such thing.
14 posted on 02/26/2004 12:42:33 PM PST by laconic
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
"Finally, five months after the slaying, a girl he once dated went to police because she feared he would commit suicide out of remorse."

Ever read Crime and PUnishment anyone?
15 posted on 02/26/2004 12:44:12 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Links from the Madison, WI area newspaper:

Higher Bond Sought After Slaying Suspect Talks Of Double Suicide
Teen To Stand Trial On Murder Charge - 2/10/04
Town Shocked As Star Student Is Accused Of Murder - The Day Before His Arrest, It Was Announced That He'd Won A College Scholarship And Planned To Study Criminal Justice. - 2/9/04
Murder Accusation Shocks Teen's Town - 2/9/04

16 posted on 02/26/2004 12:45:00 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: Rytwyng
Then again, if he was willing to commit murder, fornication probably isn't too big a deal to him.

Ya think????

17 posted on 02/26/2004 12:48:02 PM PST by ExpatCanuck
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To: laconic
...the perfect crime. No such thing.

There could be, but of course we would never hear about them...

18 posted on 02/26/2004 12:49:14 PM PST by ExpatCanuck
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To: ConservativeDude
Similar to the movie, Murder by Numbers.
19 posted on 02/26/2004 12:51:21 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Humidston
He said law enforcement is seeing a staggering amount of teens murdering "just because they want to see what it's like to see someone die."

Leopold and Loeb. The first publicized thrill killing.

20 posted on 02/26/2004 12:53:45 PM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: ExpatCanuck
That's a good point; never thought of it that way. Like the 3 prisoners who left Alcatraz in the middle of the night and "drowned" in SF Bay although no bodies were found. Is it true "no one ever escaped from Alcatraz"?
21 posted on 02/26/2004 12:55:00 PM PST by laconic
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To: laconic
decided to murder Bobby Franks to see if they could commit the perfect crime. No such thing.

"Any time you try a decent crime, you got 50 ways you can f*** up. You think of 25 of them and you're a genius. And you ain't no genius." -- Mickey Rourke from Body Heat

22 posted on 02/26/2004 12:58:13 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Humidston
He said law enforcement is seeing a staggering amount of teens murdering "just because they want to see what it's like to see someone die."

Maybe they've been listening to a little too much Johnny Cash? (Something about a man in Reno...)

23 posted on 02/26/2004 12:58:38 PM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: ExpatCanuck
The only mistake he made was telling people about it if one can keep their mouth shut.
24 posted on 02/26/2004 1:28:57 PM PST by riverrunner
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To: BlueLancer
That's pretty tremendous. 16 yrs old maybe, not 14, her parents must be nuts. Now the golden boy is accused of murder, nice boyfriend that.
25 posted on 02/26/2004 2:31:17 PM PST by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: jocon307
I have two daughters. My oldest is now beyond 14 but if she'd come home with an 18 yr. old, I'd have shown him the door..... even if he was an Eagle Scout.
26 posted on 02/26/2004 5:21:12 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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