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Graf Spree Emerges From Its River Plate Grave
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 2-27-2004 | Seamus Mirodan

Posted on 02/26/2004 6:57:59 PM PST by blam

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To: Vic3O3
Ping
21 posted on 02/26/2004 7:46:11 PM PST by dd5339 (Happiness is a full VM-II and a DEAD AND BURIED AWB!)
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To: Dilbert56
The "weird rule" was established international law -- beligerent warships entering a neutral port could stay for a maximum of 48 hours to conduct necessary repairs or for humaitarian reasons.

Britain's bluff was to convince the Germans that the Royal Navy had a task force bearing down on Montevideo to sink or capture the Graf Spee as she emerged from Montevideo harbor.

British intelligence agents in Uraguay (a hotbed of pro-Nazi sympathy) leaked the story of the fake task force knowing that German agents or sympathizers would pick it up and transmit this information back to Germany, and the Kreigsmarine (German Navy).

The bluff worked. The Graf Spee's Captain, under pressure from international law and the belief that a British surface force was coming to pound his ship, scuttled his vessel and then took his own life, after ensuring that his crew made it ashore.
22 posted on 02/26/2004 7:47:23 PM PST by Wombat101 (Sanitized for YOUR protection....)
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To: Wumpus Hunter
I had a bit of trouble climbing around in a B-17 a few years back...couldn't make it through the bomb-bay to the aft guns. I'm a little bashful about attempting to squeeze into a WWII sub.

But a genuine U-boat? I think I'd try.

23 posted on 02/26/2004 7:51:53 PM PST by Petronski (John Kerry looks like . . . like . . . weakness.)
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To: dinok
The term is "fought", not "faught" and she should have beaten the three Commonwealth Cruisers, but she wasn't as good at fighting those who could fight back as she could against helpless merchantment.

Game, Set and Match!

24 posted on 02/26/2004 7:52:17 PM PST by Redleg Duke (tStir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: eddie willers; gcruse
<== Mash This
25 posted on 02/26/2004 7:52:33 PM PST by SAMWolf (I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
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To: eddie willers
You're an old guy, too, eh? :)
26 posted on 02/26/2004 7:57:07 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: Redleg Duke
A. I admit to being a bad speller. Quit being anal.

B. You ASSUMED I was singing praize to the Graff Spee. I was stating fact from a military history perspective. Get a grip will yah?
27 posted on 02/26/2004 8:00:16 PM PST by dinok
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To: SAMWolf
Outstanding!! Thanks for that.
28 posted on 02/26/2004 8:02:37 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: Petronski
Here it is online: The U505. Be sure to check out the history tab.


The U-505 on Lake Michigan with the 1954 Chicago skyline in the background.

Looks like you'll need to wait until 2005 to see it, as they are remodeling.

29 posted on 02/26/2004 8:19:32 PM PST by Wumpus Hunter (<a href="http://moveon.org" target="blank">Communist front group</a>)
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To: gcruse
You're welcome. I remember that song too.
30 posted on 02/26/2004 8:48:29 PM PST by SAMWolf (I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
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To: blam
Never thought I'd see this bump.
31 posted on 02/26/2004 9:51:00 PM PST by witnesstothefall
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To: Wumpus Hunter
The U-505. Being from Chicago, I remember when they brought it to the Museum and installed it. They had to lay temporary rail tracks from the lake shore, across the Outer Drive, and to the side of the museum.

The producers of "Das Boot" used U-505 as the model for their mockups and sets.

32 posted on 02/26/2004 10:07:02 PM PST by Erasmus
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To: dinok
Got it out of your system now? Good!
33 posted on 02/27/2004 10:46:49 AM PST by Redleg Duke (tStir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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