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Father who married daughter ordered back to prison
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Posted on 02/27/2004 7:43:58 AM PST by chance33_98

Father who married daughter ordered back to prison

MOBILE, Ala. (AP) -- A 53-year-old man was sent back to prison after a judge decided the man had violated a probation order barring him from cohabitation with his 30-year-old daughter, who is also his former wife.

Mobile County Circuit Judge John Lockett ordered Carroll Eugene Ferdinandsen to prison on Thursday after determining he violated a probation order barring him from cohabitation with Alice Ferdinandsen.

Each had pleaded guilty to incest last summer in connection with their May 2003 civil marriage in Mobile County and served six months in jail before being released in January.

Prosecutors presented police witnesses who testified they found the father and daughter together in motel rooms on two occasions, just days after the couple's release from jail.

Each had pleaded guilty to incest last summer and served six months in jail before being released in January.

Lockett ordered Carroll Ferdinandsen to serve the remainder of a 10-year sentence.

The judge said the state had not proved its case against Alice Ferdinandsen and ruled she had not violated her probation.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: debauchery; incest; lawrencevtexas; marriage; moraldepravity; sexualperversion; slipperyslope
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1 posted on 02/27/2004 7:43:59 AM PST by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
Why don't they move to west virginny?
2 posted on 02/27/2004 7:45:25 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: chance33_98
I don't see why this isn't a protected "lifestyle" choice.
3 posted on 02/27/2004 7:46:20 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: chance33_98
In light of recent developments in San Francisco, isn't it discrimination and a violation of civil rights to bar two adults from consensual activities?

After all, once you've opened the door to one kind of deviation you have no grounds to close it to other kinds.

Right?

4 posted on 02/27/2004 7:46:49 AM PST by Lizavetta (Savage is right - extreme liberalism is a mental disorder.)
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To: 68 grunt
Hey, its just an alternative lifestyle choice, right?
5 posted on 02/27/2004 7:46:57 AM PST by malakhi
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To: chance33_98
They should think about moving to Mass the way it is going that will be legal in Mass soon as well ;)
6 posted on 02/27/2004 7:47:06 AM PST by DM1
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To: 68 grunt
Why don't they just move to San Francisco...
7 posted on 02/27/2004 7:47:06 AM PST by jscd3
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To: Mamzelle
They should move to Denmark or France. They're more enlightened than we.
8 posted on 02/27/2004 7:47:33 AM PST by ChuckShick (He's clerking for me...)
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To: chance33_98
Whats the problem?
9 posted on 02/27/2004 7:48:29 AM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: jscd3
Hmmm.... I'd be curious to ask liberals about this. After all, isn't it a "loving, stable realtionship between two consenting adults"?
10 posted on 02/27/2004 7:49:07 AM PST by boop
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To: chance33_98
Sarcasm hat How DARE we judge the actions of two people who love (lust) each other. They aren't hurting anyone... Hat This is exactly where we are heading if the insanity in Massachusetts and California continues! Every perversion within the capabnility of man, coming soon to a neighborhood near YOU!
11 posted on 02/27/2004 7:50:43 AM PST by Knute
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To: chance33_98
I want to see any advocate of gay marriage explain the grounds for arguing against this while permitting homosexual marriage. We're talking about consenting adults here.
13 posted on 02/27/2004 7:51:08 AM PST by Snuffington
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To: chance33_98

I can't wait to show this one to Uncle Dad!
14 posted on 02/27/2004 7:51:33 AM PST by JustPlainJoe
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To: chance33_98
Who is the law to determine who gets married or not married??? Watch the judges squirm on this one.
15 posted on 02/27/2004 7:51:46 AM PST by cynicom
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To: Knute
I did not preview my previous post, I used some brackets that did not show up. Here is what I meant to say!

Sarcasm hat ON

How DARE we judge the actions of two people who love (lust) each other. They aren't hurting anyone...

Hat OFF

This is exactly where we are heading if the insanity in Massachusetts and California continues! Every perversion within the capabnility of man, coming soon to a neighborhood near YOU!

16 posted on 02/27/2004 7:52:57 AM PST by Knute
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To: chance33_98

Dang!
17 posted on 02/27/2004 7:53:41 AM PST by SquirrelKing
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To: chance33_98
His only crime is that he can't afford a residence in San Francisco.
18 posted on 02/27/2004 7:57:44 AM PST by reed_inthe_wind (Vienna said the middlemen come from Ger, Nether,Belg, S Af, Jap,Dub, Mal,USA,Rus,Chin,and Pak.)
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To: chance33_98
"The judge said the state had not proved its case against Alice Ferdinandsen and ruled she had not violated her probation."

Why not prove it same way they did with the father? geeez!
19 posted on 02/27/2004 8:00:07 AM PST by moonman
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To: DM1
I think your wrong there, Massachusetts will not allow you to marry your daughter, A father can marry his boyfriend, son, father, or dog. If you feel your civil rights are impugned without the right to marry your daughter I am sure we can work out a civil union situation, but no way on marriage, we here in Ma. have our limits.
20 posted on 02/27/2004 8:01:22 AM PST by JIM O
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To: boop
Hmmm.... I'd be curious to ask liberals about this. After all, isn't it a "loving, stable relationship between two consenting adults"?

...down the slippery slope. If its' just "loving, stable relationship between two consenting adults" the standard..I'm sure "Rover" would approve...or another step down, N.A.M.B.L.A.

.."What ever happen to Democratic Party?...it got flushed Down the Toilet Bowl"

21 posted on 02/27/2004 8:02:04 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: Lizavetta
In light of recent developments in San Francisco, isn't it discrimination and a violation of civil rights to bar two adults from consensual activities?

Perhaps he'd need to marry his son. Ugh.

22 posted on 02/27/2004 8:02:26 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Forever is as far as I'll go.")
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To: chance33_98
So a state legislature which chooses to prohibit sodomy committed in private violates the constitution. Likewise a legislature which undertakes to protect the unborn from abortion.

Since Roe v. Wade the Supreme Court has embarked us all on a path of jurisprudence which has virtually nothing to do with the constitution but everything to do with public relations. So, establish your cause, ie sodomy, as the flovor of the week and you get constitutional protection. Fail to do so, ie protection of the unborn or incest, and you go to jail. The supremes get to decide what is the flavor of the week - not your elected representatives.

I think the Utah supremes ought to up the ante in this circus and legalize polygamy, which is still practiced, and watch the federal supremes flip... I mean distinguish this flavor of the week.

The full faith and credit clause has more than one application.
23 posted on 02/27/2004 8:02:52 AM PST by nathanbedford
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To: chance33_98
Sickos! Civil queer marriages and now civil incest marriages. Yuck!
24 posted on 02/27/2004 8:04:52 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: 68 grunt
Nah. Hope Arkansas.
25 posted on 02/27/2004 8:09:03 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: Lizavetta
In light of recent developments in San Francisco, isn't it discrimination and a violation of civil rights to bar two adults from consensual activities?

After all, once you've opened the door to one kind of deviation you have no grounds to close it to other kinds.

Right?

Why only two? And as far as adults go, animals and inanimate objects should not be discriminated against either.

A male-male-male-female relationship, or a male-dog relationship or a female-rock relationship has all the legitimacy of a male-male or female-female relationship, IMHO.

It isn't a slippery slope, it's a cliff.

26 posted on 02/27/2004 8:09:17 AM PST by jimt
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To: JIM O
..we here in Ma. have our limits.

That is, Until Rep. Bwarny Fwank (Ma-Aberrant) is anointed/appointed/elected as Senator... :))

27 posted on 02/27/2004 8:09:41 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: Snuffington
I advocate the government getting the heck out of the homes and beds of all consenting adults. Nobody needs a marriage license from the government, or any other kind of permission. Who the heck cares what these two consenting adults do? I think they're nuts, but it's none of my business, and I sure don't want any of my tax dollars spent by police and courts attempting to keep them away from each other.
28 posted on 02/27/2004 8:12:01 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: 68 grunt
You must be a Yankee, so I suggest you see the documentry movie (it's out on DVD) "Brother's Keeper". If you want redneck hillbilly sexual perverts (five over 50's brothers) sleeping in the same filthy bed in the same filthy room.

Oh, did I mention this is in Hillary's upstate New Yawk, and the local people did all in their power to get the one off for murdering his (shared lover) brother. So it was not an isolated hill billy event, check out the delivery of live bacon spurting blood after being shot and stuck with a "pig" sticker in a horse trailer"

Methinks all pompous arsed Yankees need to check out their neighbors there in New Yawk (makes the fictional homosexual cast of "Deliverance" look refined) before shooting off mouths about West Viginny hill billys.
29 posted on 02/27/2004 8:14:24 AM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: jimt
"...or a female-rock relationship ..."

Sorry, this is just silly ...

Now, a female-cucumber relationship would be allowed.

30 posted on 02/27/2004 8:15:19 AM PST by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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To: JIM O
lol maybe but lets just say that if they do legalize it, i would not be surprised
31 posted on 02/27/2004 8:15:58 AM PST by DM1
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To: chance33_98
Maybe the "Defense of Marriage Ammendment" had best limit marriage to a man and a woman not otherwise related. At present, it wouldn't prevent Mass from legalizing this kind of thing.

SO9

32 posted on 02/27/2004 8:18:09 AM PST by Servant of the 9 (Oh Lord, it's hard to be humble, when you're perfect in every way.)
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To: 68 grunt
can't even recognize the remark as a joke

It's no joke if your mother, grandmother and great grandmother are born and raised West Virginians. You should have some respect.

34 posted on 02/27/2004 8:30:03 AM PST by Glenn (What were you thinking, Al?)
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To: sheik yerbouty
Nah. Hope Arkansas.

There you go! Won't have to move the trailer so far ;^)

35 posted on 02/27/2004 8:30:41 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
You must be a Yankee ...

Nope, even more superior to a West-by God'er, Virginia :^>

36 posted on 02/27/2004 8:33:27 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Glenn
Just a Jews have to accept their history, so must West Virginians.

Dang, this is too much fun, but I'm teasing a friend of mine in WVA and I'm hurting other peoples feelings. West Virginia is indeed a fine state, as are all 50 of the rascals.

37 posted on 02/27/2004 8:36:52 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt
Just a Jews have to accept their history, so must West Virginians.

Quit while you are ahead, Ace.

38 posted on 02/27/2004 8:38:02 AM PST by Glenn (What were you thinking, Al?)
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To: Glenn
Thanks for the advice, Duece.
39 posted on 02/27/2004 8:40:25 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: boop

We believe that adults have the right to private choice in consensual sexual activity.

We oppose any government attempt to dictate, prohibit, control, or encourage any private lifestyle, living arrangement or contractual relationship.

We support repeal of existing laws and policies which are intended to condemn, affirm, encourage, or deny sexual lifestyles or any set of attitudes about such lifestyles.

40 posted on 02/27/2004 8:44:09 AM PST by cinFLA
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To: 68 grunt
Do 3 hail hillary's as repentance and we will call it even.
41 posted on 02/27/2004 8:44:15 AM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: chance33_98
I'll bet they are bill clinton dimocrats.
42 posted on 02/27/2004 8:45:15 AM PST by hgro
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To: chance33_98
People are so judgmental. How can they prevent this poor man from marrying a woman who reminds him so much of his first wife?
43 posted on 02/27/2004 8:48:56 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Colonel_Flagg
I'll bet that every night he asks her, "WHO'S YOUR DADDY?"
44 posted on 02/27/2004 8:58:40 AM PST by albee
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To: Lizavetta
After all, once you've opened the door to one kind of deviation you have no grounds to close it to other kinds. Right?

Basically your right. If the SCOTUS does not uphold laws that define what marriage is and what sexual conduct is considered illegal then eventually the whole thing is open for interpretation under the law.

45 posted on 02/27/2004 9:18:55 AM PST by ColdSteelTalon
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To: chance33_98
Kiss Daddy Goodnight - Louise Armstrong
46 posted on 02/27/2004 9:23:14 AM PST by Ben Chad
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
"...You got a purty mouth..."

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

47 posted on 02/27/2004 9:40:31 AM PST by mhking (Consult the Book of Armaments!)
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To: chance33_98
I think the conviction must be overturned because the Supreme Court has carved out a zone of privacy around all sexual activity involving only adults.
48 posted on 02/27/2004 9:43:12 AM PST by Montfort
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To: GovernmentShrinker
I disagree with you, but your position is certainly consistent.

However, I'm still looking for someone who supports Rosie's right to "marry" her partner, but supports locking up this daddy for "marrying" his adult daughter. I suspect they're out there in large numbers. But I don't expect to find a very well thought out position on their part.

49 posted on 02/27/2004 9:49:03 AM PST by Snuffington
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To: jimt
A male-male-male-female relationship, or a male-dog relationship or a female-rock relationship has all the legitimacy of a male-male or female-female relationship, IMHO.

Oh, my God . . . you know my ex-boyfriend. "Rock" is best used to describe the substance I suspect resides in his ample yet mostly hairless cranium.
50 posted on 02/27/2004 9:52:49 AM PST by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I shall defend to the death your right to stick it)
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