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Hillary: Iraqi Women Better Off Under Saddam
NewsMax ^ | 2/27/04 | Limbacher

Posted on 02/27/2004 8:32:32 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

Sen. Hillary Clinton said this week that Iraqi women were better off under Saddam Hussein, arguing that when the brutal dictator ran the country women were at least assured the right to participate in Iraq's public life.

In comments that went unreported by the mainstream press, the former first lady told the Brookings Institution on Wednesday that since Saddam's removal from power, Iraq's post war governing councils had engaged in "pullbacks in the rights [women] were given under Saddam Hussein."

Sen. Clinton noted that while Saddam had been "an equal opportunity oppressor," women were at least assured certain constitutional guarantees.

While ignoring reports about the brutal dictator's rape rooms and other forms of persecution that were routine for women under his regime, Sen. Clinton insisted: "On paper, women had rights."

And for Iraqi women, those paper promises translated into real benefits, she claimed.

"They went to school; they participated in the professions, they participated in the government and business and, as long as they stayed out of [Saddam's] way, they had considerable freedom of movement," Clinton insisted.

But since Saddam's removal, the plight of Iraq's women has taken a significant turn for the worse, she contended.

"Now, what we see happening in Iraq is the governing council attempting to shift large parts of civl law into religious jurisdiction," Sen. Clinton explained, saying the loss of Saddam's guarantees amounted to a "horrific mistake" for women.

During her trip to Iraq last November, Clinton said Iraqi women told her personally how they felt less safe since the U.S. deposed Saddam.

"Women tell me they can't leave their homes, they can't go about their daily business. And there is a concerted effort to burn schools that are educating girls [and] to intimidate aid workers who are women," the leading Democrat complained.

The former first lady called on President Bush to issue a statement that the U.S. "will not become the vehicle by which women's rights in Iraq are turned back."

A full transcript of Sen. Clinton's remarks is available on the Brookings Institution Web site at: http://www.brook.edu/dybdocroot/comm/events/20040225.pdf. Her remarks on the worsening plight of Iraqi women can be found on pages 36, 37, and 38.



TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: beech; bich; brookingsinstitution; clintoontraitor; hillary; hillarytraitor; iraqiwomen; outrageousdems; traitor
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1 posted on 02/27/2004 8:32:34 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"They went to school; they participated in the professions, they participated in the government and business and, as long as they stayed out of [Saddam's] way, they had considerable freedom of movement," Clinton insisted.

I see she failed to mention the specter of rape by Saddam's sons and their thugs. I wonder why?

2 posted on 02/27/2004 8:34:14 AM PST by dirtboy (Howard, we hardly knew ye. Not that we're complaining, mind you...)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
women were at least assured the right to participate in Iraq's public life

Such as mourning all of their husbands, fathers, and sons killed by the regime. Or getting raped by Hussein's sons and their hangers-on.

3 posted on 02/27/2004 8:34:29 AM PST by kevkrom (Ask your Congresscritter about his or her stance on HR 25 -- the NRST)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
You can change governments in a day. It takes three generations to change a culture.
4 posted on 02/27/2004 8:34:43 AM PST by bmwcyle (<a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I'm really perplexed at how the lamestream media could have missed this.
5 posted on 02/27/2004 8:34:46 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: dirtboy
What a nut, nuff said.
6 posted on 02/27/2004 8:35:33 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
That headline demands a wise-ass response. But I'll leave it to someone else.
7 posted on 02/27/2004 8:35:36 AM PST by Glenn (What were you thinking, Al?)
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To: dirtboy
Hitlery's husband is a rapist, just like Quaday and Usay. They are kindred souls.
8 posted on 02/27/2004 8:35:48 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: bmwcyle
You can change governments in a day. It takes three generations to change a culture but old crusty never changes.
9 posted on 02/27/2004 8:35:55 AM PST by johniegrad
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
poor liberals. They just don't get it.
10 posted on 02/27/2004 8:36:30 AM PST by ChadGore ("Maybe they thought Saddam would lose the next Iraqi election")
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To: Lee'sGhost
I think even the lamestream media can see what a crock this is, and don't dare publish it, in order to protect the witch from her own flapping lips.
11 posted on 02/27/2004 8:36:39 AM PST by EggsAckley
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Ya know, she's right! He allowed that woman to run her biological weapons program. He also allowed all those women to be raped and tortured by his monster sons. I bet they all join the smartest woman on earth in longing for the "good old days".
12 posted on 02/27/2004 8:38:00 AM PST by Dionysius
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
So blinded by ambition, so glaring a fool.

Just incredible the depth of short-sidghtedness (is that an oxymoron, or just a plainmoron?)

13 posted on 02/27/2004 8:38:11 AM PST by lafroste
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
As soon as Planned Parenthood gets set up over there, all will be right with Hillary's world.
14 posted on 02/27/2004 8:39:04 AM PST by workerbee
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To: Lee'sGhost
I'm really perplexed at how the lamestream media could have missed this.

Are you kidding? The mainstream media contiually ignores liberal stupidity - after all, how much have you seen on the mainstream news about Corrine Brown's bigoted outburst the other day? The liberal media proves every day the wisdom of Orwell's observation that omission is the most powerful form of lie.

15 posted on 02/27/2004 8:40:40 AM PST by dirtboy (Howard, we hardly knew ye. Not that we're complaining, mind you...)
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To: Glenn
That headline demands a wise-ass response. But I'll leave it to someone else.

How is this?

Iraqi Women: Hillary Better Off Under Saddam

16 posted on 02/27/2004 8:41:04 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (WARNING! DumbocRATs never met a tax increase they didn't like.)
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To: bmwcyle
Forty years in the desert.

The "smartest woman in the world" is apallingly ignorant.

17 posted on 02/27/2004 8:42:16 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"They went to school; they participated in the professions, they participated in the government and business and, as long as they stayed out of [Saddam's] way, they had considerable freedom of movement," Clinton insisted.

Her vision for America. Just stay out of President Hillary’s way, and you’ll be granted "considerable freedom of movement."

18 posted on 02/27/2004 8:42:22 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: lafroste
She's a mega-moron.
19 posted on 02/27/2004 8:43:09 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
And Hitler provided jobs, eliminated foreign competition, and made the trains run on time. What's your point, you sick, lying lesbian despot?
20 posted on 02/27/2004 8:43:34 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: onedoug
She speaks to the stupid because they will listen.
21 posted on 02/27/2004 8:43:51 AM PST by bmwcyle (<a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I don't think the Clintons met a socialist dictator they didn't love (and wish to be).
22 posted on 02/27/2004 8:44:15 AM PST by Corporate Law (<><)
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To: Glenn
Hillary: Iraqi Women Better Off Under Saddam

Being married to someone who prefers the sinks, how would she know the difference between under/over?

Phew, that was rough trying to keep it clean.

23 posted on 02/27/2004 8:44:51 AM PST by Neets (In favor of liberating Iraq, and opposed to it. And that's just one senator from Massachusetts.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Well "on paper", Hillary Clinton is a human being.
24 posted on 02/27/2004 8:45:09 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: dead
She really is mad as a hatter.
25 posted on 02/27/2004 8:45:24 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Let's give Saddam and his goons a little rocky island somewhere to establish their new regime -- and send Hillary to be their first subject.
26 posted on 02/27/2004 8:45:42 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Neets
Phew, that was rough trying to keep it clean.

You did good, Neets. Real good.

27 posted on 02/27/2004 8:46:28 AM PST by Glenn (What were you thinking, Al?)
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To: dirtboy
I was being facetious.
28 posted on 02/27/2004 8:47:35 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: SkyPilot
I recall Sheila McVicker now wworking for CNN News spewing this same nonsense. And then at the end she explained to the viewsa that the USA was against what the council was doing and it was the USA who actually ran the show.

Just utter B.S.

hawk

29 posted on 02/27/2004 8:47:44 AM PST by hawkaw
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Sen. Hillary Clinton said this week that Iraqi women were better off under Saddam Hussein, arguing that when the brutal dictator ran the country women were at least assured the right to participate in Iraq's public life.

PING!

30 posted on 02/27/2004 8:48:48 AM PST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Let's hear from some Iraqis:

http://goexcelglobal.com/NJ_DefenseForce/

Freshta Raper is head of mathematics at a boys school in London. Institute for War & Peace Reporting

Do the demonstrators who have been filling the streets in the capitals of civilized, comfortable nations in the West in opposition to a war against Iraq have any idea what they are protesting?
I have been imprisoned, tortured and gassed by Saddam Hussein's regime. I know what life is like inside Iraq.

So I can assure these demonstrators that they wouldn't survive a month if they were dropped into Baghdad and forced to live as Iraqis live. They would be arrested and tortured as soon as they started complaining about the lack of basic human rights.

I was born in Halabja, close to the Iranian border in the northern Kurdish region. After graduating from school, I became a mathematics teacher there. In the mid-1980s, a law was passed decreeing that all teaching must be done in Arabic. No more would we be allowed to teach in Kurdish. There were demonstrations. Some students burned books in protest.

These young protesters soon found themselves fleeing Iraqi intelligence officers who were sent to our town to round up the demonstrators. I helped hide these youths in the school's physics lab and they managed to escape.

But someone must have informed the authorities because I was arrested the following day. I was held for three days, during which I was forced to sit in ice-cold water and, like so many other Iraqi women, endure many humiliations.

After I was released, Iraqi intelligence officers followed me everywhere. No one was allowed to speak to me. I was soon fired and told not to go anywhere near my school or any of my former pupils. I was reassigned to the education department office of the regional government in the city of Suleimaniyah.

In 1987, I received a memo from the director calling me to a meeting. I arrived to find the hall packed with friends and colleagues. Intelligence officers surrounded the building and arrested all of us. Before being taken away, the women were told, "Bring your menfolk who are peshmergas (anti-Saddam Kurdish guerrillas) or bring divorce papers."

I did neither. That was the day I decided to join the peshmergas. Once released, I fled to the mountains, living the life of a guerrilla - a life of hell.

In 1988, 21 members of my family died of suffocation when Saddam's forces attacked Halabja with chemical weapons. Fortunately, my mother, brothers and sisters were in Suleimaniyah and survived. I wasn't so fortunate. Saddam's forces launched a chemical attack on the small mountain village of Kanyto where I was living. I survived, although badly injured, and spent three months in a hospital recovering from the chemical burns blistered my body from head to foot.

When Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990, I decided to leave my homeland: I fled to England and resumed my teaching career at a school for boys in London. Since then, the most dangerous thing I have to deal with these days are unruly teenagers. This is the world that the protesters know, not Saddam's world of chemical weapons, of arbitrary terror and rape.

How many opponents of the war have spoken to an Iraqi woman who has been raped in front of her father and son by Saddam's thugs? How many have asked an Iraqi mother how she felt when she was forced to watch her son being executed - and then ordered to pay for the bullet that killed him? How many know that these mothers have been forced to applaud as their sons died, or face execution themselves? I saw and heard all this in the village of Suleimaniyah. I still hear the clapping.

I have spoken to many people in northern Iraq over the last few weeks. They all agree that the threat of war advocated by President Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair may be the one chance to rid Iraq of the disease that is Saddam Hussein. Like myself, they worry that Saddam will see the war protests as a sign of weakness.

Giving U.N. weapons inspectors more time to determine whether Iraq is complying with international demands that it give up its weapons of mass destruction is a bad joke. Saddam will never disarm. He will lie, cheat and bluff his way out. He always has and always will.

31 posted on 02/27/2004 8:50:48 AM PST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: mountaineer
She really is mad as a hatter.

Speaking from the comfort of her million-dollar lifestyle, surrounded by lackeys who do her bidding, nurtured by the panting, sycophantic press....How long must we endure this power-hungry diva?

32 posted on 02/27/2004 8:50:52 AM PST by Carolina
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To: Glenn
Grazie.
33 posted on 02/27/2004 8:51:56 AM PST by Neets (In favor of liberating Iraq, and opposed to it. And that's just one senator from Massachusetts.)
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To: Calpernia
Let's hear from some Iraqis:

http://goexcelglobal.com/NJ_DefenseForce

CLICK!

34 posted on 02/27/2004 8:52:04 AM PST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
And there is a concerted effort to burn schools that are educating girls

Wasn't there a girls school burned before we got there...

with the girls STILL INSIDE?

I would really, really, really love to slap this bi+ch!

35 posted on 02/27/2004 8:53:55 AM PST by MamaTexan (NEVER underestimate the power of righteous indignation)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
what an asshole......can you spell c-o-w
36 posted on 02/27/2004 8:54:30 AM PST by The Wizard (democrats are enemies of America)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

37 posted on 02/27/2004 8:54:37 AM PST by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John Fin Kerry)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
What an ignorant b***h.
38 posted on 02/27/2004 8:55:31 AM PST by sweetliberty (To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
... as long as they stayed out of [Saddam's] way, they had considerable freedom of movement," Clinton insisted.

True, and as long as woman don't wear mini skirts they won't get raped.

39 posted on 02/27/2004 8:56:22 AM PST by fml ( You can twist perception, reality won't budge. -RUSH)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection; Mia T; Carl/NewsMax
I dare missus clinton and her husband to prove they didn't participate
in the 1978 rape of Juanita Broaddrick in Arkansas…
and the 1969 rape of Eileen Wellstone at Oxford.
The clintons should produce bill clinton's Oxford records explaining
his sudden, (seemingly AWOL) post-Wellstone-rape departure;
the clintons should release the Ford building evidence detailing
their rape of Broaddrick; their reflexive abuse of women.

The clintons could solve this very easily by coming clean with the American people
and letting them know what they did and didn't do.

The truth is, the Democrats brought this on themselves….
They had the clintons dress up as feminists.
The plain fact is: the clintons don't serve women--they rape them.
--- Mia T


Prescient words Mia T. They apply just as firmly today as they did yesterday, and all the days before that, in the life of the clintons.

40 posted on 02/27/2004 8:56:51 AM PST by jla
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"Women tell me they can't leave their homes, they can't go about their daily business. And there is a concerted effort to burn schools that are educating girls [and] to intimidate aid workers who are women," the leading Democrat complained.

She's right: we MUST do something. We start with the Saudis. . . and after the fires in Riyadh, Jeddah, and Mecca have burned out, we move on to. . . . (evil grin)

41 posted on 02/27/2004 8:56:51 AM PST by Salgak (don't mind me: the orbital mind control lasers are making me write this. . .)
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To: Lee'sGhost
I'm really perplexed at how the lamestream media could have missed this.

Ignored it, you mean.

The reason is easy enough. Protect her.

Her insidious message must be met with approval on a certain level from certain quarters, or we would see it reported. So on the one hand she gets to say it, on the other hand, keep her comments below the radar of the peons so they don't get wise to where she's really coming from.

42 posted on 02/27/2004 8:59:47 AM PST by cyncooper ("Maybe they were hoping he'd lose the next Iraqi election")
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Have you heard of Magda Lupescu?
Who came to Rumania's rescue
It's a wonderful thing
to be under a king
Is democracy better - I esk you
43 posted on 02/27/2004 9:01:22 AM PST by Peelod
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
It takes a village
To rape and pillage,
Saddam was known to say.
Though pulled from a hole,
He'd still be in control
If Hillary'd had her way.
44 posted on 02/27/2004 9:01:38 AM PST by andy58-in-nh
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The whore from Cook County Illinois continues to spew her poison over the civilized world.
45 posted on 02/27/2004 9:02:17 AM PST by hgro
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To: Calpernia
Let's hear from some Iraqis:

http://goexcelglobal.com/NJ_DefenseForce

Ok, I was going to post some pictures from here; but I can't. They are too gruesome.

If anyone thinks life under Saddam was better. Go to this link. Scroll through the photos.

46 posted on 02/27/2004 9:04:19 AM PST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
More pearls of wisdom oozing out of Hillary's mouth. She'd be the perfect running mate for John effin' Kerry.
47 posted on 02/27/2004 9:04:41 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Until Kofi Annan rides the Jerusalem RTD....nothing will change.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Same logic the libs use to describe Castro.

"He may be a murdering dictator but the Cuban people get free education and free medical care".( medicine provided by Cuban exiles)

Some tradeoff.

48 posted on 02/27/2004 9:04:53 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Hillary was better off under this beauty!

Good ol' boy, Webster Hubble, reportedly Chelsea's papa.

49 posted on 02/27/2004 9:06:11 AM PST by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on an equally short pier, anytime, the sooner the better!)
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To: bmwcyle
She speaks to the stupid because they will listen.

Very nice! That'd make a great book title and Republican campaign slogan.

And it reflects R. Emmet Tyrell's phrase of The Moron Vote.

50 posted on 02/27/2004 9:06:22 AM PST by jigsaw (God Bless Our Troops.)
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