Hillary: Iraqi Women Better Off Under Saddam

NewsMax ^ | 2/27/04 | Limbacher

[Tumbleweed_Connection]

Sen. Hillary Clinton said this week that Iraqi women were better off under Saddam Hussein, arguing that when the brutal dictator ran the country women were at least assured the right to participate in Iraq's public life.

In comments that went unreported by the mainstream press, the former first lady told the Brookings Institution on Wednesday that since Saddam's removal from power, Iraq's post war governing councils had engaged in "pullbacks in the rights [women] were given under Saddam Hussein."

Sen. Clinton noted that while Saddam had been "an equal opportunity oppressor," women were at least assured certain constitutional guarantees.

While ignoring reports about the brutal dictator's rape rooms and other forms of persecution that were routine for women under his regime, Sen. Clinton insisted: "On paper, women had rights."

And for Iraqi women, those paper promises translated into real benefits, she claimed.

"They went to school; they participated in the professions, they participated in the government and business and, as long as they stayed out of [Saddam's] way, they had considerable freedom of movement," Clinton insisted.

But since Saddam's removal, the plight of Iraq's women has taken a significant turn for the worse, she contended.

"Now, what we see happening in Iraq is the governing council attempting to shift large parts of civl law into religious jurisdiction," Sen. Clinton explained, saying the loss of Saddam's guarantees amounted to a "horrific mistake" for women.

During her trip to Iraq last November, Clinton said Iraqi women told her personally how they felt less safe since the U.S. deposed Saddam.

"Women tell me they can't leave their homes, they can't go about their daily business. And there is a concerted effort to burn schools that are educating girls [and] to intimidate aid workers who are women," the leading Democrat complained.

The former first lady called on President Bush to issue a statement that the U.S. "will not become the vehicle by which women's rights in Iraq are turned back."

A full transcript of Sen. Clinton's remarks is available on the Brookings Institution Web site at: http://www.brook.edu/dybdocroot/comm/events/20040225.pdf. Her remarks on the worsening plight of Iraqi women can be found on pages 36, 37, and 38.

[dirtboy]

"They went to school; they participated in the professions, they participated in the government and business and, as long as they stayed out of [Saddam's] way, they had considerable freedom of movement," Clinton insisted.

I see she failed to mention the specter of rape by Saddam's sons and their thugs. I wonder why?

[kevkrom]

women were at least assured the right to participate in Iraq's public life

Such as mourning all of their husbands, fathers, and sons killed by the regime. Or getting raped by Hussein's sons and their hangers-on.

[bmwcyle]

You can change governments in a day. It takes three generations to change a culture.

[Lee'sGhost]

I'm really perplexed at how the lamestream media could have missed this.

[1Old Pro]

What a nut, nuff said.

[Glenn]

That headline demands a wise-ass response. But I'll leave it to someone else.

[jimbo123]

Hitlery's husband is a rapist, just like Quaday and Usay. They are kindred souls.

[johniegrad]

You can change governments in a day. It takes three generations to change a culture but old crusty never changes.

[ChadGore]

poor liberals. They just don't get it.

[EggsAckley]

I think even the lamestream media can see what a crock this is, and don't dare publish it, in order to protect the witch from her own flapping lips.

[Dionysius]

Ya know, she's right! He allowed that woman to run her biological weapons program. He also allowed all those women to be raped and tortured by his monster sons. I bet they all join the smartest woman on earth in longing for the "good old days".

[lafroste]

So blinded by ambition, so glaring a fool.

Just incredible the depth of short-sidghtedness (is that an oxymoron, or just a plainmoron?)

[workerbee]

As soon as Planned Parenthood gets set up over there, all will be right with Hillary's world.

[dirtboy]

I'm really perplexed at how the lamestream media could have missed this.

Are you kidding? The mainstream media contiually ignores liberal stupidity - after all, how much have you seen on the mainstream news about Corrine Brown's bigoted outburst the other day? The liberal media proves every day the wisdom of Orwell's observation that omission is the most powerful form of lie.

[Arrowhead1952]

That headline demands a wise-ass response. But I'll leave it to someone else.

How is this?

Iraqi Women: Hillary Better Off Under Saddam

[onedoug]

Forty years in the desert.

The "smartest woman in the world" is apallingly ignorant.

[dead]

"They went to school; they participated in the professions, they participated in the government and business and, as long as they stayed out of [Saddam's] way, they had considerable freedom of movement," Clinton insisted.

Her vision for America. Just stay out of President Hillary’s way, and you’ll be granted "considerable freedom of movement."

[Eric in the Ozarks]

She's a mega-moron.

[over3Owithabrain]

And Hitler provided jobs, eliminated foreign competition, and made the trains run on time. What's your point, you sick, lying lesbian despot?

[bmwcyle]

She speaks to the stupid because they will listen.

[Corporate Law]

I don't think the Clintons met a socialist dictator they didn't love (and wish to be).

[Neets]

Hillary: Iraqi Women Better Off Under Saddam

Being married to someone who prefers the sinks, how would she know the difference between under/over?

Phew, that was rough trying to keep it clean.

[SkyPilot]

Well "on paper", Hillary Clinton is a human being.

[mountaineer]

She really is mad as a hatter.

[GovernmentShrinker]

Let's give Saddam and his goons a little rocky island somewhere to establish their new regime -- and send Hillary to be their first subject.

[Glenn]

Phew, that was rough trying to keep it clean.

You did good, Neets. Real good.

[Lee'sGhost]

I was being facetious.

[hawkaw]

I recall Sheila McVicker now wworking for CNN News spewing this same nonsense. And then at the end she explained to the viewsa that the USA was against what the council was doing and it was the USA who actually ran the show.

Just utter B.S.

hawk

[Calpernia]

Sen. Hillary Clinton said this week that Iraqi women were better off under Saddam Hussein, arguing that when the brutal dictator ran the country women were at least assured the right to participate in Iraq's public life.

PING!

[Calpernia]

Let's hear from some Iraqis:

http://goexcelglobal.com/NJ_DefenseForce/

Freshta Raper is head of mathematics at a boys school in London. Institute for War & Peace Reporting

Do the demonstrators who have been filling the streets in the capitals of civilized, comfortable nations in the West in opposition to a war against Iraq have any idea what they are protesting?
I have been imprisoned, tortured and gassed by Saddam Hussein's regime. I know what life is like inside Iraq.

So I can assure these demonstrators that they wouldn't survive a month if they were dropped into Baghdad and forced to live as Iraqis live. They would be arrested and tortured as soon as they started complaining about the lack of basic human rights.

I was born in Halabja, close to the Iranian border in the northern Kurdish region. After graduating from school, I became a mathematics teacher there. In the mid-1980s, a law was passed decreeing that all teaching must be done in Arabic. No more would we be allowed to teach in Kurdish. There were demonstrations. Some students burned books in protest.

These young protesters soon found themselves fleeing Iraqi intelligence officers who were sent to our town to round up the demonstrators. I helped hide these youths in the school's physics lab and they managed to escape.

But someone must have informed the authorities because I was arrested the following day. I was held for three days, during which I was forced to sit in ice-cold water and, like so many other Iraqi women, endure many humiliations.

After I was released, Iraqi intelligence officers followed me everywhere. No one was allowed to speak to me. I was soon fired and told not to go anywhere near my school or any of my former pupils. I was reassigned to the education department office of the regional government in the city of Suleimaniyah.

In 1987, I received a memo from the director calling me to a meeting. I arrived to find the hall packed with friends and colleagues. Intelligence officers surrounded the building and arrested all of us. Before being taken away, the women were told, "Bring your menfolk who are peshmergas (anti-Saddam Kurdish guerrillas) or bring divorce papers."

I did neither. That was the day I decided to join the peshmergas. Once released, I fled to the mountains, living the life of a guerrilla - a life of hell.

In 1988, 21 members of my family died of suffocation when Saddam's forces attacked Halabja with chemical weapons. Fortunately, my mother, brothers and sisters were in Suleimaniyah and survived. I wasn't so fortunate. Saddam's forces launched a chemical attack on the small mountain village of Kanyto where I was living. I survived, although badly injured, and spent three months in a hospital recovering from the chemical burns blistered my body from head to foot.

When Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990, I decided to leave my homeland: I fled to England and resumed my teaching career at a school for boys in London. Since then, the most dangerous thing I have to deal with these days are unruly teenagers. This is the world that the protesters know, not Saddam's world of chemical weapons, of arbitrary terror and rape.

How many opponents of the war have spoken to an Iraqi woman who has been raped in front of her father and son by Saddam's thugs? How many have asked an Iraqi mother how she felt when she was forced to watch her son being executed - and then ordered to pay for the bullet that killed him? How many know that these mothers have been forced to applaud as their sons died, or face execution themselves? I saw and heard all this in the village of Suleimaniyah. I still hear the clapping.

I have spoken to many people in northern Iraq over the last few weeks. They all agree that the threat of war advocated by President Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair may be the one chance to rid Iraq of the disease that is Saddam Hussein. Like myself, they worry that Saddam will see the war protests as a sign of weakness.

Giving U.N. weapons inspectors more time to determine whether Iraq is complying with international demands that it give up its weapons of mass destruction is a bad joke. Saddam will never disarm. He will lie, cheat and bluff his way out. He always has and always will.

[Carolina]

She really is mad as a hatter.

Speaking from the comfort of her million-dollar lifestyle, surrounded by lackeys who do her bidding, nurtured by the panting, sycophantic press....How long must we endure this power-hungry diva?

[Neets]

Grazie.

[Calpernia]

Let's hear from some Iraqis:

http://goexcelglobal.com/NJ_DefenseForce

CLICK!

[MamaTexan]

And there is a concerted effort to burn schools that are educating girls

Wasn't there a girls school burned before we got there...

with the girls STILL INSIDE?

I would really, really, really love to slap this bi+ch!

[The Wizard]

what an asshole......can you spell c-o-w

[nutmeg]

ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

[sweetliberty]

What an ignorant b***h.

[fml]

... as long as they stayed out of [Saddam's] way, they had considerable freedom of movement," Clinton insisted.

True, and as long as woman don't wear mini skirts they won't get raped.

[jla]

I dare missus clinton and her husband to prove they didn't participate
in the 1978 rape of Juanita Broaddrick in Arkansas…
and the 1969 rape of Eileen Wellstone at Oxford.
The clintons should produce bill clinton's Oxford records explaining
his sudden, (seemingly AWOL) post-Wellstone-rape departure;
the clintons should release the Ford building evidence detailing
their rape of Broaddrick; their reflexive abuse of women.

The clintons could solve this very easily by coming clean with the American people
and letting them know what they did and didn't do.

The truth is, the Democrats brought this on themselves….
They had the clintons dress up as feminists.
The plain fact is: the clintons don't serve women--they rape them.
--- Mia T

Prescient words Mia T. They apply just as firmly today as they did yesterday, and all the days before that, in the life of the clintons.

[Salgak]

"Women tell me they can't leave their homes, they can't go about their daily business. And there is a concerted effort to burn schools that are educating girls [and] to intimidate aid workers who are women," the leading Democrat complained.

She's right: we MUST do something. We start with the Saudis. . . and after the fires in Riyadh, Jeddah, and Mecca have burned out, we move on to. . . . (evil grin)

[cyncooper]

I'm really perplexed at how the lamestream media could have missed this.

Ignored it, you mean.

The reason is easy enough. Protect her.

Her insidious message must be met with approval on a certain level from certain quarters, or we would see it reported. So on the one hand she gets to say it, on the other hand, keep her comments below the radar of the peons so they don't get wise to where she's really coming from.

[Peelod]

Have you heard of Magda Lupescu?
Who came to Rumania's rescue
It's a wonderful thing
to be under a king
Is democracy better - I esk you

[andy58-in-nh]

It takes a village
To rape and pillage,
Saddam was known to say.
Though pulled from a hole,
He'd still be in control
If Hillary'd had her way.

[hgro]

The whore from Cook County Illinois continues to spew her poison over the civilized world.

[Calpernia]

Let's hear from some Iraqis:

http://goexcelglobal.com/NJ_DefenseForce

Ok, I was going to post some pictures from here; but I can't. They are too gruesome.

If anyone thinks life under Saddam was better. Go to this link. Scroll through the photos.

[TheSpottedOwl]

More pearls of wisdom oozing out of Hillary's mouth. She'd be the perfect running mate for John effin' Kerry.

[Vinnie]

Same logic the libs use to describe Castro.

"He may be a murdering dictator but the Cuban people get free education and free medical care".( medicine provided by Cuban exiles)

Some tradeoff.

[jws3sticks]

Hillary was better off under this beauty!

Good ol' boy, Webster Hubble, reportedly Chelsea's papa.

[jigsaw]

She speaks to the stupid because they will listen.

Very nice! That'd make a great book title and Republican campaign slogan.

And it reflects R. Emmet Tyrell's phrase of The Moron Vote.