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Free State NH on verge of nation's best gun freedom

Posted on 02/27/2004 5:48:39 PM PST by Dada Orwell

In addition to the many other growing freedoms in NH, there is a bill now making its way through the NH House that I understand will give NH the most gun freedom (under the law) of any state. Currently they are only in the top 3 or 4.

http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?board=31;action=display;threadid=5454

I hope this attracts a healthy number of gun nuts from slave states!

Liberty in Your Lifetime www.freestateproject.org


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: bang; freestateproject; fsp; gunfreedom; nh; porcupines

1 posted on 02/27/2004 5:48:39 PM PST by Dada Orwell
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To: Dada Orwell
Oddly enough, I think Vermont has the freest gun laws in the country.
2 posted on 02/27/2004 6:07:10 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Dada Orwell
The proposal in NH would remove the requirement of obtaining a permit in order to carry a handgun concealed. Presently, one can carry a handgun without a permit only if it is clearly visible. BTW, carrying a loaded handgun in a vehicle, I believe, is considered to be carrying it concealed.

NH is a relatively easy state in which to obtain a concealed-carry permit. If the chief of police thinks you're a jerk, there's an appeals process, but I've not heard about many cases of police chiefs or selectmen abusing their discretion.

4 posted on 02/27/2004 6:27:05 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Cicero
"Oddly enough, I think Vermont has the freest gun laws in the country."

That's true.

In Vermont you and your handgun can marry.

Remember to unload before consummating...

5 posted on 02/27/2004 6:28:56 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Cicero; All
I need some help from a "gun-knowledgable" Freeper identifying a gun.

Can anybody help a perfect stranger on a Friday night?

6 posted on 02/27/2004 6:32:45 PM PST by perfect stranger ("Don't shoot I'm Che! I'm worth more to you alive than dead!" Che Guevara October 1967)
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To: PAC67
" I read a story about 2 years ago about a grass roots effort of libertarians choosing NH as a last stronghold - and systematically moving to the Granite State."

Yeah, I've been reading about this pipe-dream too.

I'm still waiting to meet one of these "thousands of free-staters" who are supposed to be moving into New Hampshire. I haven't yet.

I have, however, year after year, watched tens of thousands of Massachusetts "Free-Loader Project" losers continue to move into Southern New Hampshire.

The Free-State Project has great publicity, but they're dick-less wonders so far as I have seen.

7 posted on 02/27/2004 6:42:34 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites
"Massachusetts "Free-Loader Project" losers "
well i am a Mass refugee in Southern New Hampshire but dont worry we just reinforced the conservative base up here
do you think that NH will stay in the R column for the foreseable future? I was heartened in 02 when R took basically everything in the state.
9 posted on 02/27/2004 6:50:06 PM PST by DM1
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To: DM1; PAC67
I'm worried about NH in 2004 and the Republican camp. Granted, I swing with a largely Democrat crowd so I tend to be pessimistic.

I'd love to see the Free State thing come to something, but here, four miles from the border, I only meet people who want to pick my pocket.

10 posted on 02/27/2004 6:54:07 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites
Here is the web site:

They claim to have 5,400 memebers, but none are obligated to move at this point. The Exodus is supposed to begin when the numbers hit 20,000. None the less some have begun. The vote was held to pick a state last fall, when they hit 5,000 members. Things seem to have slowed down since then, and also many of the 5,000 had "opted out" meaning they said they would not move if a certain state was chosen. Thus the actual number of committed memebers is probably much lower now.

11 posted on 02/27/2004 6:55:47 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: billorites
ah only 4 miles over the border
i am a little bit further up (between Manchester and Portsmouth) and i have seen a lot of D signs due to the primary. This was a little disconcerting but i have read a lot and spoken to some people on this site and it appears that NH is safe for now anyway. I just hope that the liberals from Mass dont pollute our state anymore.
12 posted on 02/27/2004 6:58:56 PM PST by DM1
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To: Jack Black

"Let's move to New Hampshire.
We'll live forever!"


13 posted on 02/27/2004 7:01:10 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: perfect stranger
I might be able to help.

http://securityarms.com/20010315/all.htm
15 posted on 02/27/2004 7:08:56 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: perfect stranger
Ready to identify. Description?
16 posted on 02/27/2004 7:32:09 PM PST by Sender ("This is the most important election in the history of the world." -DU)
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To: Shooter 2.5
you have freepmail
17 posted on 02/27/2004 7:34:30 PM PST by perfect stranger ("Don't shoot I'm Che! I'm worth more to you alive than dead!" Che Guevara October 1967)
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To: Sender
you have freepmail
18 posted on 02/27/2004 7:36:30 PM PST by perfect stranger ("Don't shoot I'm Che! I'm worth more to you alive than dead!" Che Guevara October 1967)
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To: perfect stranger
you have freepmail.
19 posted on 02/27/2004 7:40:51 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: billorites
Well I'm a freestater living in Maryland, and will move to New Hampshire before the 2008 election. I'm not waiting for the magic 20,000 number either. Considering there are only 5400 or so committed at this moment, I'm not suprised you haven't met anyone in person.
20 posted on 02/27/2004 8:05:32 PM PST by Katya
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To: PAC67
If I remember correctly, I read a story about 2 years ago about a grass roots effort of libertarians choosing NH as a last stronghold - and systematically moving to the Granite State.

Indeed you did; that's The Free State Project, which includes a sizable number of interested FReepers.

The choice of which state to begin the effort in was made when 5000 members had pledged to make the move; which took about 2 years, but was growing exponentially and is now at around 5500. Once 20,000 total are on board, the group migration will begin, though some pioneers have already relocated.

There's an archive of FSP-related articles that can be followed with the FReep keyword search tag FSP, and I maintain a FSP-related FReeper *ping list,* the *porcupine list,* named for the FSP porcupine logo/mascot.

If you have any questions, feel free to fire them my way, and if I can't answer them, I'll point you toward one who can.

-archy-/-


21 posted on 02/28/2004 5:00:13 AM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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To: perfect stranger
It's now 0700 in my locale [Memphis] but I'll happily give it a go.

-archy-/-

22 posted on 02/28/2004 5:01:40 AM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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To: billorites; AAABEST; A.J.Armitage; archy; austingirl; BADROTOFINGER; Baseballguy; bc2; ...
I'm still waiting to meet one of these "thousands of free-staters" who are supposed to be moving into New Hampshire. I haven't yet.

The bulk of the FSPers won't be arriving until 20K are on board; the numbers have reached a bit over a forth of that amount [despite a prediction to me a couple of years back that no more than a few hundred would commit themselves.] The number joining on at present is around 50/week; not surprisingly it drops considerably over the winter months, then spikes upward with each bit of FSP publicity that attracts those interested. On the other hand, the numbers jumped from 4K to 5K in 10 weeks between June/03 and Aug/03. It varies....

But a few have indeed already made the move; if you'd really like to meet a few of those who are your new neighbors, Or, you can swing by the Porcupine Lunch on Saturday 2/28 noon at Inn at Danbury, 67 NH Route 104, Danbury, NH.

Are you located in the Conway or Laconia area, by any chance? BTW, PorcuPing!

-archy-/-

23 posted on 02/28/2004 5:29:10 AM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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To: Dada Orwell
Thank you for the ping.
24 posted on 02/29/2004 7:08:41 PM PST by katz (Rush Rocks)
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To: Cicero
That I don't know. I have property in TN. I have learned through the WEB that TN residents can get permits to carry by taking an eight hour course. The permit is not for a concealed permit. That tells me that in TN one can have a gun out in the open. The web site did say that most people concealed their weapons but it was not necessary.
25 posted on 02/29/2004 7:18:17 PM PST by katz (I)
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