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Five Reasons Not to Go See The Passion of Christ
The Banner of Truth: Biblical Christianity through Literature ^ | February 19, 2004 | Andrew J. Webb

Posted on 02/27/2004 8:06:42 PM PST by Weirdad

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To: iconoclast
There are plenty of idiots on FR, but CWW is not one of them.

Sorry, but if he thinks Protestants are somehow closer to Satan, idiot is a generous description.

261 posted on 02/29/2004 8:37:54 AM PST by sakic
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To: Weirdad
The author is another self-righteous, religious pipsqueak who just totally misses what God is doing. He's no different than the religious types of Jesus day, 2000 years ago, that missed what was really happening.
262 posted on 02/29/2004 2:13:28 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: narses
Christ appointed the Apostles. The Holy Ghost guided them and helped them select their successors, starting with the replacement of Judas in the very first days of the Catholic (Universal), Apostolic Church. Their direct, lineal successors are the Bishops of the Catholic and Apostolic Church of today, led by the first among them, the Vicar of Christ, His Holiness Pope John Paul II.

Don't start with that stuff else I'll remind you that your "First Pope", i.e. Peter, had to be corrected in his doctrine by the Apostle Paul. So much for Papal Infallibility... If the "First Pope" was in error, the whole house of cards comes tumbling down, so I don't think it would be wise to be so smug.

263 posted on 02/29/2004 2:17:40 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Diplomat
What a ridiculous statement. In other words, if only one person is saved from disarming the entire nation and its ability to defend itself from intruders, then it would be worth it.
264 posted on 02/29/2004 2:23:23 PM PST by Dec31,1999 (Capital punishment saves lives.)
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To: nmh
"It was so hard for God to bear"

Thank you for sharing that as I struggled for a time with the "forsaken" passage and I've been studying it. Here's something that I found that I'd like to add:

"We need to be carefull not to overdo the physical agony of the cross to the exclusion of the spiritual impact. Actually, the physical pain was not the worst part. It was the awful seperation that occured between the the Son and the Father when "all our sin was laid on him." At that moment the Lord Jesus felt the crushing weight of all mankind's iniquity."

- Charles Swindoll, Growing Deep in the Christian Life

The pain of Jesus being seperated from God for the first time must have been, well, I don't pretend to imagine.

Thanks again for your post.

265 posted on 02/29/2004 2:54:06 PM PST by Proud_texan
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To: Jorge
Remember that Christ said that he was the "son of man", not the son of God.
266 posted on 02/29/2004 3:04:47 PM PST by Dec31,1999 (Capital punishment saves lives.)
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To: Bohemund
Some of these preacher types would have us believe that the sermon on the mount actually proceeded with Jesus issuing a series of position paters and making his legal staff available afterwards to discuss the fine points.

I choose to believe that the beauty of Jesus' message was its simplicty. The Beautitudes are more than five reasons not to listen to those who seek to loop hole and nuance us to death with their educated and narrowly defined interpretations.

267 posted on 02/29/2004 3:11:25 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Dec31,1999
Remember that Christ said that he was the "son of man", not the son of God.

Actually Christ did say He was the Son of man AND the Son of God, and is addressed as the Son of God throughout the scriptures;

Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? John 14:9,10

"I and the Father are one." John 10:30

"This sickness will not end in death. No, it is for God's glory so that God's Son may be glorified through it." John 11:4

Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'? Do not believe me unless I do what my Father does. John 10:36,37

"I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life.
I tell you the truth, a time is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live." John 5:24,25

Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'? John 10:36

They all asked, "Are you then the Son of God?" He replied, "You are right in saying I am." Luke 22:70

"The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel which means, "God with us." Matthew 1:23

268 posted on 02/29/2004 4:50:58 PM PST by Jorge
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To: DallasMike
The Passion of Christ is a Roman Catholic movie.

I disagree with the author of this article that it's a Catholic movie. I saw it and thought that it's a CHRISTIAN movie.

269 posted on 02/29/2004 5:40:19 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
I disagree with the author of this article that it's a Catholic movie. I saw it and thought that it's a CHRISTIAN movie.
I agree (and I hope that my post didn't imply otherwise).

270 posted on 02/29/2004 6:10:18 PM PST by DallasMike
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To: Weirdad
Thank you for this post.

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271 posted on 02/29/2004 7:49:29 PM PST by viaveritasvita ("When Love takes you in, everything changes.")
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To: Proud_texan
"We need to be carefull not to overdo the physical agony of the cross to the exclusion of the spiritual impact. Actually, the physical pain was not the worst part. It was the awful seperation that occured between the the Son and the Father when "all our sin was laid on him." At that moment the Lord Jesus felt the crushing weight of all mankind's iniquity."

How right you and Chuck are. I see the violence being emphasized and that concerns me ... there are other concerns about this movie as well ... .
272 posted on 02/29/2004 7:56:58 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Bohemund
No, it was Flavious Jospheus. I know my spelling of his name is off and I don't know where I put the book. I'll look it upon the web and correct it. Be back in a sec..
273 posted on 02/29/2004 8:02:10 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Weirdad
Long article but lots of worry and negativity. See the movie - it is great. I didn't as much meaning from the Mary part, but she was the mother of our Lord and why shouldn't she be shown? She believed He was the Son of God too.
274 posted on 02/29/2004 8:02:22 PM PST by Libertina (The Passion of the Christ - inspired, inspiring. Thank you Mel Gibson!)
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To: Bohemund
No, it was Flavious Jospheus. I know my spelling of his name is off and I don't know where I put the book. I'll look it upon the web and correct it. Be back in a sec..

Here is the correct spelling - Flavius Josephus. I was close.
275 posted on 02/29/2004 8:04:45 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: AmericaUnited
You obviously are completely unfamiliar with what "papal infallibility" means. That's okay, most people who take potshots at Catholic doctrine are completely unfamiliar with Catholic beliefs. In other words, you jest at scars that never felt a wound.
276 posted on 02/29/2004 8:05:12 PM PST by austinTparty
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To: Shermy
Hi how are you?

Question for anyone: is this coincidence, but the director of "The Patriot" was ROLAND Emmerich... Is he related to Catherine Emmerich?
277 posted on 02/29/2004 8:10:47 PM PST by rudy45
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To: Weirdad
THE church will always be divided over doctrinal differences...one thing this movie does is show that Christ came for all, gave up His life for all, and rose again for all.

I'm sick to death of contentious people trying to make it other than that.

278 posted on 02/29/2004 8:30:59 PM PST by hope
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To: nmh
Here is everything that Josephus wrote about Jesus:

Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man; for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ. And when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him; for he appeared to them alive again the third day; as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him. And the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day.” (Antiquities 18:63-64).

He also wrote a paragraph mentioning John the Baptist and another about James the Just.

As you can see, nothing about Jesus being ugly.



279 posted on 02/29/2004 8:42:54 PM PST by Bohemund
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To: austinTparty
You obviously are completely unfamiliar with what "papal infallibility" means.

No, not really. I've had people like you explain that it means he's always right, except when he's wrong, and then he's not really wrong, or he's always right when speaking as "the pope", except when he's wrong, then he wasn't speaking as "the pope". It's so such a tortured and twisted explanation, you can certainly understand why others get confused.

280 posted on 03/01/2004 1:26:02 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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