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FBI Orders Review of Oklahoma City Bombing to Find if McVeigh Had More Accomplices
AP via ABC ^ | 02/27/04

Posted on 02/27/2004 8:34:34 PM PST by SierraWasp

AP: FBI Orders Oklahoma City Bomb Review
AP NewsBreak: FBI Orders Review of Oklahoma City Bombing to Find if McVeigh Had More Accomplices

The Associated Press

WASHINGTON Feb. 27 — The FBI ordered a review of some aspects of the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing investigation Friday, reopening the question of whether Timothy McVeigh may have had more accomplices, government officials said.

Reacting to an Associated Press story earlier this week, the FBI ordered agents to determine why some documents did not properly reach the bureau's Oklahoma City task force during the original investigation or get turned over to McVeigh's lawyers before he was executed in 2001, officials said.

The review will also try to determine whether FBI agents in a separate investigation of white supremacist bank robbers may have failed to alert the Oklahoma City investigation of a possible link between the robbers and McVeigh, and allowed some of that evidence to be destroyed.

AP reported Wednesday that documents never introduced at McVeigh's trial showed FBI agents destroyed evidence and failed to share other information that raised the possibility that a gang of white supremacist bank robbers may have assisted McVeigh.

The evidence includes documents showing the Aryan Republican Army bank robbers possessed explosive blasting caps similar to those McVeigh stole and a driver's license with the name of a central player who was robbed in the Oklahoma City plot. The caps were destroyed.

McVeigh's former attorney and the retired head of the McVeigh investigation applauded Friday's development. "It was the right thing to do. The FBI has to put the integrity back in the "i" of the FBI," retired agent Dan Defenbaugh said.

McVeigh attorney, Stephen Jones, said the key will be how aggressively the FBI pursues the review. "The question is how serious an investigation it will be or are they going through the motions and is this a face-saving way to close the book on this," he said.

The documents don't prove additional accomplices were involved blasting caps are plentiful and the gang was expert in document fraud. But Defenbaugh said his team never got the chance to investigate the evidence and he called earlier this week for the probe to be reopened.

The April 19, 1995, bombing killed more than 160 people and McVeigh was put to death for it in 2001. His co-defendant, Terry Nichols, will stand trial in Oklahoma next week on state charges that could carry the death penalty.

Nichols' attorneys asked Thursday for the trial to be delayed in light of the AP story, but the judge refused.

FBI officials and Nichols' attorneys declined comment Friday night, citing a gag order in the case.

Government officials, who spoke only on condition of anonymity, said the review will be handled by the FBI's inspection division, a unit of senior agents that routinely conducts reviews to ensure the bureau follows its own rules and conducts investigations properly.

Jannie Coverdale, whose two grandsons were killed in the second-floor daycare center, welcomed new scrutiny of the case.

"I have prayed and asked God this time let the truth come out," Coverdale said. "I did not believe what the federal government had said. I had talked to too many people that had seen Tim McVeigh in Oklahoma City that morning and not one saw Tim McVeigh by himself."

The officials said the review was ordered "out of an abundance of caution" to ensure that any questions about additional conspirators be put to rest.

It is not the first time issues in the McVeigh case have had to be reopened. In 2001, the Justice Department was forced to conduct an internal investigation to determine why 4,000 pages of documents from the case were belatedly turned over to defense lawyers just days before McVeigh was supposed to be executed. The revelation prompted a one-month delay in the investigation.

Peter Langan, one member of the ARA robbery gang, told AP he plans to testify at Nichols' trial that federal prosecutors several years ago offered and then withdrew a plea deal for information he had about the Oklahoma City bombing.

Langan said he plans to testify that at least three fellow gang members were in Oklahoma around the time of the bombing and one later told him that they had become involved.

Agents who worked both the McVeigh bombing and the bank robbery spree two of the FBI's highest priority cases of the 1990s said they suspected a link between the two because of physical evidence as well as statements made by the robbers and a girlfriend.

The agents said they ruled out a connection when the bank robbers denied their involvement and provided an alibi showing they left Oklahoma three days before McVeigh's bomb detonated outside the Alfred P. Murrah federal building on April 19, 1995.

That alibi, however, was contradicted by information Langan offered prosecutors and by car sales records that showed the bank robbers were still in the Oklahoma area after they claimed to have left, FBI documents show.

McVeigh in 1994 stole from a quarry hundreds of construction blasting caps, some which he used to explode the Oklahoma City bomb. The FBI spent months unsuccessfully trying to locate many of the other stolen caps.

Agents collected witness testimony that McVeigh had placed some of the extra caps in two boxes wrapped in Christmas paper in the back of his car along with mercury switches and duffel bags.

One electric and five non-electric blasting caps were found in the Aryan Republican Army robbers' Ohio hideout in January 1996, along with mercury switches, a duffel bag and two items described as a "Christmas package," FBI records show. The FBI allowed firefighters to destroy the caps at the scene, and they were never compared to the Oklahoma case.

FBI agents in the robbery case also determined that the bank robbers had an Arkansas driver's license in the name of Robert Miller, the alias name used by Arkansas gun dealer Roger Moore.

The government contended at McVeigh's trial that Moore was robbed at his Hot Springs, Ark., home in November 1994, and the proceeds were used to fund the Oklahoma City bombing.

One of the bank robbers, Mark Thomas, claimed in a newspaper in 1997 that one of his gang was involved in the Oklahoma bombing. And Thomas' ex-girlfriend told FBI agents her boyfriend stated shortly before he traveled to an Oklahoma white supremacist compound in spring 1995 that a federal building was about to be bombed.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: fbi; okc; okcbombing; oklabomb
I thought so!!!
1 posted on 02/27/2004 8:34:35 PM PST by SierraWasp
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To: ovrtaxt; happygrl; Issaquahking
A "Never Say Die" PING!!!
2 posted on 02/27/2004 8:37:19 PM PST by SierraWasp (I'm in contempt of contemptuous liberal courts! We cannot have a Stable Society with their Rule!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
Nine years after the fact and two years after McVeigh's execution, the FBI finally get curious if he had other accomplices?

I wish I had a government job. No one ever gets fired or disciplined for incompetence.

3 posted on 02/27/2004 8:38:04 PM PST by Lawgvr1955 (What's that? Pizza with no anchovies? You've got the wrong man. I spell my name "Danger")
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To: SierraWasp
Uh, gee, isn't this the kind of thing you want to resolve before you execute the guy?

Incompetent government bureaucracy at its best.

4 posted on 02/27/2004 8:39:33 PM PST by explodingspleen
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To: SierraWasp
. "It was the right thing to do. The FBI has to put the integrity back in the "i" of the FBI," retired agent Dan Defenbaugh said.

Wouldn't it be easier to just shorten it to FB?

5 posted on 02/27/2004 8:40:03 PM PST by AdamSelene235
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To: Lawgvr1955
You're so right!!! Also, see this!!! Then come back here and tell me what you think.
6 posted on 02/27/2004 8:40:30 PM PST by SierraWasp (I'm in contempt of contemptuous liberal courts! We cannot have a Stable Society with their Rule!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
Separated at birth?

Left, John Doe No. 2, a never-captured suspected accomplice in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing. Right, alleged al Qaeda 'dirty bomber' Jose Padilla in a 1991 mug shot.

7 posted on 02/27/2004 8:40:56 PM PST by timpad (Frustrate a liberal - be happy and successful!)
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To: SierraWasp
Gee - this is only about the *4th* (or so) posting of this story -

- are the details getting any clearer with each posting?
8 posted on 02/27/2004 8:41:22 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann C. and Rush L. speak on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: SierraWasp
LOL> Finishing the job for the Clinton Administration
9 posted on 02/27/2004 8:41:47 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.ArmorforCongress.com......................Send a Freeper to Congress!)
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To: timpad
Convincing ... I wonder what witnesses who see motion pictures and side-profiles of Padilla think of all this hoopla ...
10 posted on 02/27/2004 8:42:32 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann C. and Rush L. speak on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: AdamSelene235
Maybe even shorter, to just "F," so's Kerry could claim it for his middle initial!!!
11 posted on 02/27/2004 8:43:17 PM PST by SierraWasp (I'm in contempt of contemptuous liberal courts! We cannot have a Stable Society with their Rule!!!)
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To: _Jim
I wonder what witnesses who see motion pictures and side-profiles of Padilla think of all this hoopla ...

The thing I did not hear when the OKC bombing story was going on was that John Doe #2 was reportedly Hispanic. But, with what I learned from the DC Sniper case, I'm reluctant to make any connection here at all. In that case, eyewitnesses were worse than useless.

But the side-by-side comparison is a bit eerie.

12 posted on 02/27/2004 8:48:40 PM PST by timpad (Frustrate a liberal - be happy and successful!)
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To: Lawgvr1955
Anyone actually see McVeigh dead yet ?

The local reporterette who witnessed it reported that when he was pronounced dead he was still breathing.

Normally a body can't be breathing to be pronounced dead.

No one has seen a body either.

Could the whole thing have been stagecraft and the perfect cover-up ?
13 posted on 02/27/2004 8:51:51 PM PST by festus
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To: SierraWasp
And have to hang dirty laundry out to dry?America needs answers on the following subjects: Terry Nichols and terrorist conference connections? Mysterious Iraqi contractors at OKC? John Doe #1,2...?

Check out Jayna Davis' website!

14 posted on 02/27/2004 8:53:08 PM PST by endthematrix (To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
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To: timpad
Back in the days when "Oklahoma Jones' (McVeigh's attorney) was working up a defense - he propagated a number of theories ... most of that episode hsa been forgotten - but was documented by a few people - like these guys:
From:
THE JOHN DOE TIMES,
Vol. V, Number 3,
22 March 1997

It appears the the *source* for all this conspiracy talk is the result of a dis-information campaign conducted by TMcV's defense attorney - and John Doe #2 was a case of mistaken identity ...

Less than two weeks after the blast, investigators had found a man who exactly fit Kessinger's description of John Doe 2.

The man, an innocent soldier named Todd Bunting, had been in Elliott's Body Shop the day after McVeigh rented the Ryder truck.

But Kessinger stubbornly insisted that he had seen the two men together on the same day.

Only last November ['96] did Kessinger finally change his mind and identify Bunting as John Doe 2.

Jones, McVeigh's lawyer, relished bringing out Kessinger's contradictions at a hearing last month. Despite the judge's order not to talk about evidence or strategy to reporters, Jones kept feeding speculation to the press.

There was the suggestion that two Ryder trucks were involved in the blast and that the Feds had been warned before the bombing.

Government sources say Jones's theories are farfetched. But by hiring conspiracy-minded detectives (at taxpayer expense: Jones has so far billed the government for about $10 million), he hopes to baffle prospective jurors.

The FBI also has to worry about reports that its lab has become slipshod. Fortunately for the government, the FBI lab "whistle-blower," Frederic Whitehurst, was once Burmeister's mentor.

In fact, Whitehurst is on record saying that some of Burmeister's OKBomb work was "brilliant."

If Jones is going to play the role of Johnnie Cochran, he must find a sympathetic jury. The pool around Denver may have some anti-government views. It takes only a single juror to hang a verdict. But it would have to be a very stubborn juror indeed to hold out in the face of the evidence against Timothy McVeigh.


15 posted on 02/27/2004 9:02:50 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann C. and Rush L. speak on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: SierraWasp
No sh!+ ... why did they wait till now to release what they knew 9 years ago. Why did they have to kill McVey so fast, and how many Islamo fascist from Saudi Arabia were involved?
16 posted on 02/27/2004 9:05:12 PM PST by Porterville (The truth has a ring to it, secularism is a religion- stop secular bigotry)
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To: _Jim
The man, an innocent soldier named Todd Bunting,

Ever seen a photo of Bunting? I've looked but never found one.
17 posted on 02/27/2004 9:14:14 PM PST by timpad (Frustrate a liberal - be happy and successful!)
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To: SierraWasp
How conveniently late. McVeigh is croaked, and in record time, short of a lynching.
18 posted on 02/27/2004 9:21:46 PM PST by xJones
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To: festus
Could the whole thing have been stagecraft and the perfect cover-up ?

The mother ship is waiting to beam you up.

McVeigh was put to death, but too soon.

19 posted on 02/27/2004 9:26:40 PM PST by xJones
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To: Lawgvr1955
During the Clinton era, there wasn't such a thing as personal responsibility. Bush has to fix these things now.
20 posted on 02/27/2004 9:32:21 PM PST by BobS
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To: SierraWasp
Interesting, especially about the "language division" celebration. Unbalievable really.

I also thought it interesting that McVeigh's article did not mention anything "right wing" as a critique of American Mid East policy.

21 posted on 02/27/2004 9:34:01 PM PST by Lawgvr1955 (What's that? Pizza with no anchovies? You've got the wrong man. I spell my name "Danger")
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To: xJones
"McVeigh was put to death, but too soon."

Yes! And why? And for what?

There is something phony about the OKC bombing that hasn't registered with the synapses of my brain. Someone else seems to have orchestrated it. McVeigh may have been killed to shut him up. This is why I have the phony feeling about that episode.

22 posted on 02/27/2004 9:45:02 PM PST by BobS
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To: BobS
I agree, there is something phony. I think someone involved with the Aryan Republican Army (ARA) is supposed to testify in the Nichols trial. Maybe that accounts for this "reopening" of the FBI's mishandling of evidence. But to my knowledge the ARA were involved with bank robberies and pipe bombs, not car bombs. Car bombs are the work of international terrorists.
23 posted on 02/27/2004 10:10:06 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: BobS
Who knows? McVeigh was put on the fast track and didn't tell anything before his death.
24 posted on 02/27/2004 10:13:40 PM PST by xJones
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To: festus
Anyone actually see McVeigh dead yet ?

I have always found it interesting that the National Enquirer had a photograph of McVeigh's dead body, post execution, on its cover the day AFTER his scheduled execution date... except that he got a one week stay! The death picture was a week early!

Is it possible that T. McVeigh is living under an assumed name with an altered face enjoying his pay for a acting role well done???

25 posted on 02/28/2004 12:16:36 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tagline shut down for renovations and repairs. Re-open June of 2001.)
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To: Porterville; BobS
There is a sixty day extension, during which time the relatively small number of researchers (amateur, professional, kooky and sane) in this field, will be distracted by the OKC affair and lost documents review, instead of keeping their eye on the ball?

That's my speculative postulation for Saturday morning.
26 posted on 02/28/2004 5:23:53 AM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: _Jim
The pool around Denver may have some anti-government views. It takes only a single juror to hang a verdict... .

United States Constitution, Article. III, Section. 2, Clause 3:

The Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, the Trial shall be at such Place or Places as the Congress may by Law have directed.

So when was the federal building in Denver bombed?

27 posted on 02/28/2004 5:40:26 AM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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To: SierraWasp
There is no doubt in my mind that this is to debunk Jayna Davis'book. I heard David Schippers on Jim Quinn the other day talking about this again.
28 posted on 02/28/2004 7:05:57 AM PST by smokeyb
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To: festus
You forgot your meds!
29 posted on 02/28/2004 7:11:20 AM PST by verity
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To: SierraWasp
yeah he had help, is was Osama!
30 posted on 02/28/2004 7:18:34 AM PST by countrydummy (http://chat.agitator.dynip.com)
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To: archy
The hearing in Denver was because it was a Federal case. The state trial was held in Oklahoma.
31 posted on 02/28/2004 10:04:28 AM PST by sharktrager (The last rebel without a cause in a world full of causes without a rebel.)
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To: festus
Why would they keep him alive.

First rule of assassinations; kill the assassin.
32 posted on 02/28/2004 10:05:42 AM PST by sharktrager (The last rebel without a cause in a world full of causes without a rebel.)
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To: SierraWasp; isasis; AuntB
Of course he had accomplices....

If everyone thinks back real hard for a second....his accomplices were the "clintoon administration" - when a useful idiot is in charge it's easy for those who have big plans and a dangerous world agenda.

In August of 92 straight from Ruby Ridge - Janet Reno showed that she had Louis Freeh and Lon Horiuchi to do any dirty work neccesary.

When clinton and band of idiots felt the hit on the World Trade Center back on Febuary 26th, 93,they did nothing but lip service( as a matter of fact, on Febuary 23rd the diversion of Waco had already started!). This told the Islamic radicals a green light for furthering their agenda...and a second hit in America...with a white islam fundamentalist convert (McVeigh) was going to be easy. As a matter of fact, as long as clinton would be around, they had a free run of the globe. Not that clinton ever had a problem in office




So as I said in the last post on this same issue -


Your sting is exactly correct as per usual! Those that are jealous of us to the extreme are not totally stupid - they seek stupid (aka useful idiots) out to do their dirty work out for them. Useful idiots are just like the frog in the pot being heated - they only "get it" when it's too late....currently the battle has been overseas for the most part, I have to wonder when the peaceniks and far left goofballs are going to get it? Most likely when the terrorists do smack us again in the homeland, they will relize that it is their fault for preventing what needs to be done to defend the homeland. One has to maintain vigilance at all times, on all fronts - just like our forefathers tried to warn us about in the Declaration of Independence and in writing the Constitution!

If there is any doubt to useful idiots and the extent that they will go to - remember that -

A vote for John 'F'ing Kerry is a vote for UBL, the U.N. etc.,etc...
29 posted on 02/12/2004 9:13:04 AM PST by Issaquahking (U.N., greenies, etc. battling against the U.S. and Constitution one freedom at a time. Fight Back !)


When Bush wins re-election, it will be really interesting to see what "The powers that be" will be willing to share with us....and helping this nation go forward, as it should.
33 posted on 02/28/2004 10:58:37 AM PST by Issaquahking (U.N., greenies, etc. battling against the U.S. and Constitution one freedom at a time. Fight Back !)
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To: Issaquahking
That's right, Rockie... Don't let 'em "bring it all down man!" Those global goofballs don't really have any, when it gets right down to it!!!

The time is getting ripe for the demise of "no controlling legal authority!" Great composition and extra good rant, my friend!!!

34 posted on 02/28/2004 11:57:40 AM PST by SierraWasp (I'm in contempt of contemptuous liberal courts! We cannot have a Stable Society with their Rule!!!)
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To: festus; coloradan
Anyone actually see McVeigh dead yet ?

One of McVeigh's last requests was: No Autopsy.

Death was confirmed by Vigo County Coroner Susan Amos. I would like to know more about her background.

He was then cremated.

Nice and neat.

35 posted on 02/28/2004 2:07:13 PM PST by AdamSelene235
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To: SierraWasp
Thanks for the ping !

I was laying on my couch on the morning of April 19, too sick to go to work, and watching the TV.

But I remember two things: the fleeing from the site by LE and others because to the discovery of additional "Bombs", and the initial speculation that this had a Middle Eastern connection.There was a hasty assertion on the part of the "authorities" that the initial impressions were wrong on both accounts.

36 posted on 03/01/2004 2:03:50 PM PST by happygrl
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