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Iranian Alert -- February 28, 2004 -- IRAN LIVE THREAD --Americans for Regime Change in Iran
The Iranian Student Movement -- Up To The Minute Reports ^ | 2.28.2004 | DoctorZin

Posted on 02/28/2004 12:01:29 AM PST by DoctorZIn

The US media almost entirely ignores news regarding the Islamic Republic of Iran. As Tony Snow of the Fox News Network has put it, “this is probably the most under-reported news story of the year.” But most American’s are unaware that the Islamic Republic of Iran is NOT supported by the masses of Iranians today. Modern Iranians are among the most pro-American in the Middle East.

There is a popular revolt against the Iranian regime brewing in Iran today. Starting June 10th of this year, Iranians have begun taking to the streets to express their desire for a regime change. Most want to replace the regime with a secular democracy. Many even want the US to over throw their government.

The regime is working hard to keep the news about the protest movement in Iran from being reported. Unfortunately, the regime has successfully prohibited western news reporters from covering the demonstrations. The voices of discontent within Iran are sometime murdered, more often imprisoned. Still the people continue to take to the streets to demonstrate against the regime.

In support of this revolt, Iranians in America have been broadcasting news stories by satellite into Iran. This 21st century news link has greatly encouraged these protests. The regime has been attempting to jam the signals, and locate the satellite dishes. Still the people violate the law and listen to these broadcasts. Iranians also use the Internet and the regime attempts to block their access to news against the regime. In spite of this, many Iranians inside of Iran read these posts daily to keep informed of the events in their own country.

This daily thread contains nearly all of the English news reports on Iran. It is thorough. If you follow this thread you will witness, I believe, the transformation of a nation. This daily thread provides a central place where those interested in the events in Iran can find the best news and commentary. The news stories and commentary will from time to time include material from the regime itself. But if you read the post you will discover for yourself, the real story of what is occurring in Iran and its effects on the war on terror.

I am not of Iranian heritage. I am an American committed to supporting the efforts of those in Iran seeking to replace their government with a secular democracy. I am in contact with leaders of the Iranian community here in the United States and in Iran itself.

If you read the daily posts you will gain a better understanding of the US war on terrorism, the Middle East and why we need to support a change of regime in Iran. Feel free to ask your questions and post news stories you discover in the weeks to come.

If all goes well Iran will be free soon and I am convinced become a major ally in the war on terrorism. The regime will fall. Iran will be free. It is just a matter of time.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iaea; iran; iranianalert; iranquake; protests; southasia; studentmovement; studentprotest
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To: DoctorZIn
Iranians Unite Against Ruling Mullahs

By Reza Bayegan | February 27, 2004

With the disappearance of the last vestiges of hope for democratic transformation within the existing political system, the Iranian opposition to clerical dictatorship is closing ranks and converging on items of a common agenda for the future of the country. At the beginning of Khatami's presidency, even many of those Iranians who were sympathetic to the Islamic revolution privately voiced the view that the reform card was the regime's last chance. They argued that either Mohammad Khatami would succeed in transforming the religious state into a democracy, or his presidency would be remembered as the final nail in the coffin of the Islamic Republic. Not very surprisingly a term and a half into his presidential mandate, Mohammad Khatami looks increasingly like an undertaker. His public credibility has all but vanished and the political movement that became synonymous with his name lies in tatters.

Hashim Aghageri, a leading Iranian dissident reacting to the massive disqualification of reformist candidates by the Guardian Council has declared that Iran's reform movement is finished. In an open letter published by the Iranian news agency ISNA, this history professor who is a reformist himself said that hopes for mending the system from within are over and he advises Iranians to oppose the regime through passive resistance.

Passive resistance or civil disobedience is one of the items on the wish-list, which is uniting Iranian activists from all over the political spectrum. Many of the items on this wish-list entered the Iranian political lexicon with the publication of a book in 2002 called Winds of Change by Reza Pahlavi, son of the late Shah of Iran, who is leading a campaign to overthrow the mullahs' dictatorship from his home in exile in the United States. Arguing that violence breeds more violence, he has been insisting on a peaceful plan of bringing down the regime through political non-participation. He has also proposed a democratic referendum on the future of the country as the only way out of the present political quagmire. Many of the reformist intellectuals who once vehemently supported President Khatami and his effort to change the republic from within now have also come to see a referendum on the future of the country as the only viable option. One of these people is the prolific satirist Ebrahim Nabavi. Reflecting on the legacy of the reformist movement in a recently published article, this hugely popular writer says: 'What we can all do at this moment is to make up for our past mistakes. We have no choice but to carefully navigate our country's vessel through its surrounding stormy waters and towards the free and democratic world. The reformist movement at this point should concentrate on forcing the hardliners to accept a national referendum on the future of the country'.

What Nabavi means by 'forcing the hardliners' is putting them in a situation so they can see that a quiet departure is their only route to self-preservation and the most generous deal they can expect from the nation. Twenty-five years of mismanagement and impetuous policies in the name of revolutionary Islam has brought the country to the verge of collapse. Iranians are left unprotected not only against man-made and natural calamities, but also against a government that has consistently assaulted their human rights and freedoms. How such a government with such a disastrous record has been able to survive for such a long time has been the subject of mystifications even for some Iranians with long experience in politics. Fereydoun Hoveyda, Iran's ambassador to the United Nations during the time of the Shah, blames the British, French and Germans for propping up the Islamic Republic and preventing its downfall.

In an article published on 13 February 2004, he asks 'how a group of incompetent and often corrupt lower ranking clerics' who have brought nothing but misery and bankruptcy to our nation have been able to survive except with the backing of those powerful European governments in whose economic benefit it is to keep them in power.

Whether one agrees or disagrees with this theory, it is true however that the Islamic Republic has succeeded in defrauding, or as Mr. Hoveyda argues bribing the key European countries and even elements within the Democratic Party in the United States. Seeking the protection of these powers the mullahs have found it necessary to create the impression that they are interested in democratic reform. One should keep in mind that a dictator like Khomeini who thought nothing of ordering the mass execution of hundreds of his opponents also found it expedient to call himself a democrat. Many Iranian activists who had a soft spot for Khomeini's revolution turned a blind eye on profound and irreconcilable defects of the system. They waited patiently hoping that one day a democratic state could emerge from within the Islamic Republic.

One of these activists who supported the 1979 revolution was Shirin Ebadi, winner of the Nobel Peace Prize. Faced with the mass elimination of candidates, she has declared that she will refuse to vote in an undemocratic election where people are deprived of the right to vote for whomever they wish. The decision of the influential Nobel laureate to stay away from the polls is bound to give a moral boost to the the advocates of political non-participation and civil disobedience.

Ironically, the reform movement which was an ineffective force in its prime, is showing signs of vitality at its deathbed. The disgruntled candidates not only boycotted the polls but have broken a taboo by openly criticizing Khamenei's role in their disqualification accusing him of duplicity.

The recognition that the Islamic Republic is the common enemy of freedom and democracy has induced the country's political activists; monarchists as well as republicans to form a united front against dictatorship.
41 posted on 02/28/2004 9:21:47 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: DoctorZIn
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42 posted on 02/29/2004 12:04:26 AM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: F14 Pilot
I don't understand how you can say there is no difference between the reformers and the conservatives. If that were true, why did the Guardian Council prevent so many from standing in this month's elections? The fact is there is a fundamental difference.

My post was based on my experience of meeting Shirin Ebadi at the World Social Forum in Mumbai in January. Her translator was a young man studying in Mumbai who works for the Iranian consulate there. At first I couldn't understand why the Iranian government would allow one of its employees to act as guide and interpreter for an extremely troublesome dissident like Ebadi.

The answer is that elements of the government bureaucracy are dominated by reformers, especially the foreign service. It was obvious from speaking to them that while they are pressing for freedom of speech, human rights and an interpretation of Islam compatible with democracy in Iran, they remain highly critical of the policies and pronouncements of the Bush administration.

Does that make them anti- or pro-American? I guess it depends whether you conflate anti-Bushism with anti-Americanism. Personally, I don't.
43 posted on 02/29/2004 1:34:40 AM PST by Bombay Bloke
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To: Bombay Bloke
First check this thread
44 posted on 02/29/2004 2:27:49 AM PST by F14 Pilot
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To: Bombay Bloke; DoctorZIn
Well, As far as I know, any one who wants to be an MP in Iranian Parliament must swear in the name of Supreme leader and Koran in order to be loyal to the regime and some thing they call it Velayate Faghigh which is like a mere dictatorship.

Where were these reformers you talked about when Authorities attacked Students' dorms in 1999 and 2000? For example, that set up show (Sit-in) was just about losing power. It was about power struggles inside the Iranian Regime.

Some had to leave the money, power, luxury cars and seats of Majlis and some had to arrive as new comers and gain these things.

The show wasnt about people's pain. I think or better to say, I believe it is impossible to be loyal to the supreme leader and then fight with him at once.

These reformers were the ones who took US Embassy staff as hostages in 1980 and they ran the government of Prime Minister Musavi in the 1980's, killed hundreds of dissident in 1987, torture people, continue war with Iraq, supported Hizbollahs bombings in Lebanon and attacked our allies in the Persian Gulf and did a lot of shameful things to the US interests in that era.

Please remember that we can not have a double standard stance toward this brutal regime. And remember that a stablized Iran will help the Middle East region stability as well and that is what we look for.

Ah, I forgot to add that the above link, I offered, is about an approval of a bill in the Iranian Parliament to fight the USA, and do you think that those so-called reformers vetted that bill? I think, None of dare to say NO to what the regime believe. Regime believes that the US and Israel should be wiped out of the Earth map.

So, I am going to repeat my words again:There is no difference between reformists and hardliners inside the regime of Iran.

45 posted on 02/29/2004 2:47:43 AM PST by F14 Pilot
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To: Bombay Bloke
So you have decided, upon meeting one individual, the entire agenda of the so called reformers? Don't you think the Iranian people, who have to live under the rule of these people, are the better judge? Or do you feel that you are morally superior and your judgement of the situation will result in what is best for the people?
46 posted on 02/29/2004 8:14:28 AM PST by McGavin999 (Evil thrives when good men do nothing!)
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To: Bombay Bloke; F14 Pilot
You are basing your opinion on one person. I know many Iranians who vehemently disagree with every thing you wrote in your post. BTW, they love President Bush, and believe President Clinton did absolutely nothing for their cause.

I strongly suggest that, if you are truly interested, you read F14Pilot's post, and the link he provided. He is very well versed on Iran.

F14Pilot, this guy signed up Feb 28, 2004. After reading his post, I've come to the conclusion he is a troll.

47 posted on 02/29/2004 10:22:10 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: DoctorZIn; freedom44; F14 Pilot; nuconvert; Grampa Dave; SAMWolf; snippy_about_it

I am shocked, shocked at how much further along the
plant has been developed than I previously believed.

48 posted on 02/29/2004 5:41:43 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo
Dictators lie to the world about evreything and we're always "shocked". Enough to make you puke.
49 posted on 02/29/2004 7:10:33 PM PST by SAMWolf (I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
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To: PhilDragoo
'Round up the usual suspects’.
50 posted on 02/29/2004 7:10:50 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: PhilDragoo
51 posted on 02/29/2004 7:34:32 PM PST by nuconvert (CAUTION: I'm an acquaintance of someone labelled :"an obstinate supporter of dangerous fantasies")
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