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KARENNA GORE SCHIFF: Get Out, Mr. Nader - You're only fueling defeatism--and you defeated my father
Wall Street Journal ^ | February 28, 2004 | KARENNA GORE SCHIFF

Posted on 02/28/2004 12:15:16 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Edited on 04/23/2004 12:06:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Watching Ralph Nader declare his candidacy was like having a terrible flashback. Oh no--not this again! I'm not saying we should muzzle independent voices or rule out third parties. Mr. Nader has a right to run for president. And I have a right to say, What an awful idea.


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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2002; 2004; albertgore; albertgorejunior; algorejr; gore; nadar; nader; soreloserman
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1 posted on 02/28/2004 12:15:17 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Karenna, your father is a liar and you are a arrogant little *itch.

THANK GOD FOR GEORGE W. BUSH!

2 posted on 02/28/2004 12:19:23 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Sit down, little piglet. Your 15 minutes are up.
3 posted on 02/28/2004 12:21:07 AM PST by Viking2002 (I think; therefore, I Freep............)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I wonder how long Al had to practice before he got her signature down.
4 posted on 02/28/2004 12:21:44 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: kcvl
*** Mr. Nader's self-serving message encourages people to believe nothing that politicians say--even when they are clearly stating their differences. ***

This is hilarious considering the lying Clintons, her tea sipping, image morphing father and the ever waffling Kerry.

5 posted on 02/28/2004 12:22:08 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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6 posted on 02/28/2004 12:22:56 AM PST by Knuckle Sandwich Combo (Karenna's worried the Nanny-state won't be there to change her diapers.)
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To: kcvl
Actually...rumours of Karenna's campfire nights at the farm in Carthage have resulted in stories of debauchery with locals and even Secret Service.

She was a bit like her mom...hot blooded. Course, the press never touched it.
7 posted on 02/28/2004 12:23:16 AM PST by wardaddy (A man better believe in something or he'll fall for anything.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Ms. Gore Schiff is director of community affairs for the Association to Benefit Children"


Pity those pooooooor children.
8 posted on 02/28/2004 12:23:56 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I don't recall Karenna saying the same thing to H. Ross Perot in 1992
9 posted on 02/28/2004 12:24:23 AM PST by Cowboy Bob
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Isn't Karenna Schiff the great granddaughter of Jacob Schiff, the New York banker who gave $20 million to Leon Trotsky and Vladimir Lenin to fund the Russian revolution?

10 posted on 02/28/2004 12:24:37 AM PST by DentsRun
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
She's just pissed that her father is gay.
11 posted on 02/28/2004 12:25:00 AM PST by rottndog (woof)
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To: Viking2002; DoughtyOne; All

Artist Chuck Close, left, and Karenna Gore Schiff discuss the artworks that will be sold to raise money for Democrats. Close painted the portrait of Schiff's father, Vice President Al Gore, seen in the background Aug 2000 Artists' auction aims to raise money for Democrats
12 posted on 02/28/2004 12:26:36 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Memo to the nasty Gore daughter: Thanks to God your father isn't president. He works in mysterious ways, maybe even thru Ralph Nader.
13 posted on 02/28/2004 12:26:52 AM PST by onyx
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To: wardaddy
She was a bit like her mom...hot blooded. Course, the press never touched it.

If Tripper/Tipper? or whatever her name --- was hot blooded, why did she marry a cold dead fish like algore?

14 posted on 02/28/2004 12:29:10 AM PST by onyx
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Karenna, I have three words to say to you:

GO RALPH GO!
GO RALPH GO!
GO RALPH GO!
GO RALPH GO!
15 posted on 02/28/2004 12:29:50 AM PST by RichInOC (God bless the USA and the GOP...and confusion to our enemies.)
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To: DentsRun
What a New York banker funded the communists?
16 posted on 02/28/2004 12:30:24 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Hooray for Ralph Nader. We'll take all the help we can get. I do love to see the Liberals cry. :)
17 posted on 02/28/2004 12:32:33 AM PST by NRA2BFree (Proud member of the FR Rabid Right Wing Axis of EvilŪ.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Ms. Gore Schiff

?

I don't get it.  Is this stupid little snot married? 

18 posted on 02/28/2004 12:33:12 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: RichInOC
Don't be too happy about Ralph. Everytime he opens his mouth he's going to be hammering Bush. Even though he shouldn't get any coverage, the media will be more than happy to take as many swipes at Bush as they can through Nader.
19 posted on 02/28/2004 12:33:31 AM PST by rottndog (woof)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Remind me to take a pass on artwork for the next year or so.
20 posted on 02/28/2004 12:38:12 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: rottndog
Getting hammered on by the left comes with the territory. Screw them and screw him.
21 posted on 02/28/2004 12:44:16 AM PST by RichInOC (Ralph Nader: Unsafe at any speed...at least for the Democrats.)
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To: wardaddy
Okay, spill it. lol!
22 posted on 02/28/2004 12:54:59 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
OH, GAG!
23 posted on 02/28/2004 12:57:09 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Since George W. Bush took office, a budget surplus of $230 billion has become a deficit of $521 billion.

Uh, if "Daddy" had won, the deficit would be $1 trillion because he would not have lowered taxes, etc. PLUS, he'd still be playing footsie with Saddam and the Taliban and our friend Osama would have been still reeking havoc. Daddy would still be talking about his "lockbox".

24 posted on 02/28/2004 12:57:17 AM PST by Jerry Attrick (<B>)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

25 posted on 02/28/2004 12:59:19 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Jerry Attrick
I think Karenna needs to keep her box locked.
26 posted on 02/28/2004 12:59:34 AM PST by rottndog (woof)
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To: Just mythoughts
What a New York banker funded the communists?

Big time. He hated the Czar because of the pogroms and Russian's attemps to assimilate the Jews. Schiff earlier raised money for the Japanese in their 1905 war against Russia. Then at the time of the Russian revolution he gave Trotsky $20 million in gold to take back to Lenin. If I'm not mistaken Trotsky booked passage back to Russia but Canadian authorities jailed him and seized the gold when the ship stopped in Halifax, Nova Scotia. He was set free when Wilson threatened not to send any troops to France to fight the Germans unless the Canadians let Trotsky go. So they gave him back his gold and sent him on to Russia. And the rest, as they say, is history.

28 posted on 02/28/2004 1:03:08 AM PST by DentsRun
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Hey Karenna .. Why don't you get your dad to give a supporting speech for Kerry
29 posted on 02/28/2004 1:05:08 AM PST by Mo1 (THE CUSTER CONSERVATIVES: "Not Smart... But Principled, Dammit!)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Though she had met groom Andrew Schiff only nine months before, "I've never been more sure of anything," says Karenna Gore, entering Washington National Cathedral with dad Al and mom Tipper.

It's hard to pare down the guest list when your father is the Vice President and your groom is from a prominent New York City family. But Karenna Gore, 24, and Andrew Schiff, 32, a Manhattan primary-care physician and a descendant of bander-philanthropist Jacob Schiff, did enough surgery to keep the crowd to a mere 300. "It wasn't a star studded affair,' says the new Mrs. Schiff, a Columbia University Law School student. "It was a lot of old family friends." Well, yes, but those old pals included Agriculture secretary Dan Glickman, Housing Secretary Andrew Cuomo, cosmetics mogul Leonard Lauder, and President Bill Clinton (Hillary and Chelsea were in Europe).

The bride's mother, Tipper, "helped me plan, but she wasn't pushy about anything," says Karenna. The groom's job, Andrew says with a smile, was "showing up on time, making sure my clothes were clean- important things." After being escorted down the aisle of the Washington National Cathedral by her nervous father, Al Gore Jr., Karenna carrying a bouquet of off-white roses, exchanged vows with Andrew. At the reception on the lawn of the Veep's residence, one more star showed up along with the seven-tiered cake (each layer a different flavor). Aretha Franklin took the mike to sing "The Way I love You" for the couple's first dance. And Grammy-winning fiddler Mark O'Connor played "Tennessee Waltz" while Karenna twirled with her dad. She also cut a rug with her granddad, former Sen. Al Gore Sr, 90. "He was really excited," she says. "He was doing his old country-dancing style. That was one of my favorite moments."

People Magazine
January 1998


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30 posted on 02/28/2004 1:06:07 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Mr. Nader's self-serving message encourages people to believe nothing that politicians say....."

Sounds like good advice to me.
31 posted on 02/28/2004 1:08:41 AM PST by sport
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To: Mo1
if she wants to get even with Nader for the last run .... just tell daddy to endorse him and that should be the kiss of death

.

32 posted on 02/28/2004 1:10:14 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: DentsRun
Would you give me the names of "history" books that record this?

I have read about some of these events. Not quite the way you have described.

Not that I do not believe you. Would like to research the history.

I always considered the French Revolution to be the foundation for what has followed the past almost 200 years.



33 posted on 02/28/2004 1:16:10 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Drew Schiff’s great aunt, Dorothy Schiff, ran her afternoon tabloid New York Post as a money-making liberal fiefdom from 1939 to 1976, when she sold it to Rupert Murdoch.

January 31, 2004 -- GIMME SHELTER

It looks like another Gore got edged out of the running.

After we reported last week that Lisa Belzberg, the estranged wife of Seagram heir Matthew Bronfman, prevailed in a bidding war for Rosie O'Donnell's townhouse on the Upper West Side, we discovered her competition included the daughter of former vice president, and failed 2000 presidential candidate, Al Gore.

After the price of the property dropped from the original $6.9 million asking down to $4.9 million, Karenna Gore Schiff, touted as her father's most trusted advisor in the 2000 presidential race, and Belzberg, went after O'Donnell's vacated digs armed with a boatload of cash.

Karenna's doctor husband, Andrew Schiff, is a great grandson of railroad tycoon Jacob (and a great nephew of Dorothy Schiff, a former owner of the New York Post).

Belzberg's cash, by contrast, was from the Bronfman fortune.



Warner Brothers, which bankrolled O'Donnell's talk show, bought the five-bedroom, 4 1/2-bath townhouse four years ago for $6.5 million and renovated the place to the portly gabmistress' specs.

Featured is a master bath with a steam shower and freestanding tub, a garden and two terraces.

There's also plenty of expensive woodwork done in dark cherry.

After the dust settled, Belzberg - who is said to be a close friend of Gore's former boss, Bill Clinton - bought the five-story house for almost $5.5 million, according to sources.

34 posted on 02/28/2004 1:16:40 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I write a topical comedy service for radio DJs, so I tend to assess candidates' chances through their "comedy templates" and whether they are negative and persistent enough to actually harm the candidate's electibility. That's how I knew, and predicted here right after it happened, that Dean's "Yeeeaauugghhh!!" outburst would never go away and he was toast. That was the impression of Dean that was left in voters' minds, and all us comedy writers, DJs and and late night comedians insured that nobody would ever forget it. Dean will go down in history as the wildman screaming "Yeeeaaauughh!!!" who nobody in his right mind wanted near the nuclear button.

By the same token, Al Gore's fate was sealed in a quieter but no less devastating way when he puffed himself up like a rooster and walked over to Dubya during the debate, trying to invade his space and intimidate him. When Dubya turned, regarded him with bemusement, nodded his head, and dismissively said, "Hiya," it was over for Gore. He came across as so pompous, weird and utterly deranged that nothing he could do after that could erase the suspicion of mental instability that nobody wanted to see in a US president. Gore wasn't sunk by Nader, he was sunk by the anchor that is Al Gore. (Don't believe Al is an anchor? Ask Howard Dean what that Gore endorsement did for him.)

The fact is, Corinna, the only thing your dad had to do to become president was not to convince Ralph Nader to get out of the race. It was to win his "home" state. Sadly for Al, those were the people who knew him best, so it was not to be.

35 posted on 02/28/2004 1:17:16 AM PST by HHFi
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To: HHFi
He came across as so pompous, weird and utterly deranged that nothing he could do after that could erase the suspicion of mental instability that nobody wanted to see in a US president. Gore wasn't sunk by Nader, he was sunk by the anchor that is Al Gore.

That was before Gore's ridiculous ' Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh' (sighing sounds off camera) performance, wasn't it?

36 posted on 02/28/2004 1:21:02 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Definitely this acorn didn't fall to far from the TREE.

Hey Mrs. Schiff, ask your daddy to endorse Nader.

Your nightmares will end.

37 posted on 02/28/2004 1:24:58 AM PST by smoothsailing (Eagles Up !!!!!)
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To: kcvl
(Hillary and Chelsea were in Europe).

LOL

38 posted on 02/28/2004 1:25:44 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Elle Bee
LOL ..

BTW .. now that Deans out .. I wonder who her daddy is backing now ?
39 posted on 02/28/2004 1:26:43 AM PST by Mo1 (THE CUSTER CONSERVATIVES: "Not Smart... But Principled, Dammit!)
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To: DentsRun
Karenna Gore Schiff is 30, married and has two kids of her own.

February 28, 2004

Karenna Gore Schiff and Drew Schiff

Dr. and Mrs. Popularly Elected First Family; don’t bring up the Patakis; biotechnology can be fun!; Schiff likes Giff

Karenna Gore Schiff’s ears peek out from between the strands of her flaxen hair; she, 30 years old, fixes the irregularity. Her husband, Andrew, 38, a former physician turned biotech venture capitalist, isn’t here. He is a private man and doesn’t court publicity. She is awfully unassuming for someone who seems to be involved in every charitable organization in the city, graduated from Columbia Law School, received a $200,000 advance from Miramax Books and has been near the forefront of national politics for years.

"I think that Pataki has short-changed the city," Mrs. Schiff said over a Caesar salad. "I think that by supporting the Bush administration, he has done harm to some of the things that I care about. So I would hope that he is defeated—or doesn’t run—next time."

The disappointment in Governor Pataki is understandable. The Schiffs, whether spending time in Central Park with their two children (Wyatt and Anna), scampering around museums or scatting to Wynton Marsalis, feel the ripples of city policy on a very personal level: both, in their nonprofit ventures, and he, working in an industry at the whim of governmental regulation.

Born and raised on the Upper East Side (where his family has resided for "generations"), Dr. Schiff comes from a family that is essentially nonpartisan, although they have, said Mrs. Schiff, tended to vote Republican.

Dr. Andrew (Drew) Schiff is a managing director at Perseus-Soros BioPharmaceutical Fund, which makes investments—in the $10 million to $50 million range—in the biotechnology sector. On the side, he also sits on the board at Henry Street Settlement, a charity that sponsors a community mental-health clinic, a battered women’s shelter, and many other initiatives and centers.

Mrs. Schiff is the head of the advocacy committee for Sanctuary for Families and the director of community affairs for the Association to Benefit Children.

As with most dividend-yielding partnerships, theirs is symbiotic.

"He’s been really helpful to me in learning how a nonprofit works, so we do talk about that kind of stuff," said Mrs. Schiff. "It’s true that I can’t get quite as excited about finance as he does, but I try. But he likes to talk politics, too. He’s been around the city for a long time—he knows a lot of the players better than I do in city politics.

"I think that he’s basically enamored of biotechnology. He loves combining his medical experience with his interest in business—investing in companies that are trying to make medicines for cancer and heart disease and children’s diseases," Mrs. Schiff continued. "It’s definitely something that excites him. So my guess is that he’ll stay with it, but he’s always been somebody who likes to change and learn and do new things." She added, "He may decide to go to architecture school next year, knowing Drew."

In spite of the inescapable connection—her dad is President-elect-forever Al, her mom the well-kissed Tipper—Mrs. Schiff admits that she’s not an "expert" on city politics, but she’s awfully connected. She supported Gifford Miller ("His wife is fantastic, by the way"), Jonathan Bing and Liz Krueger.

"It’s true what Tip O’Neill said: All politics is local," Mrs. Schiff said. "And so, in a sense, whenever you start at a local level, you can gain a lot of experience and understanding. I’ve campaigned for Liz Krueger for State Senator—shaken-hands-in-the-subway kind of thing—so I suppose that’s one way I’ve been involved, in a local sense. But I’m also very much interested in national politics, I guess, because for so much of my life I was in that milieu."

It’s not all business with the Schiffs: When venturing out from their East 66th Street residence, they go to the Met, attend the opera and frequent jazz concerts at Lincoln Center. "Wynton Marsalis is amazing," said Mrs. Schiff. "They have this great ‘Jazz for Kids’ thing that we take our kids to sometimes. He’s hilarious. It’s only an hour, and that’s great, because that’s about my attention span, too."

At a glance, the Schiffs are absurdly accomplished. Gretchen Buchenholz, the executive director and founder of the Association to Benefit Children, goes so far as to say, "They’re really present. They belong in this cosmopolis." But of the two, Dr. Schiff is more detail-oriented.

"One thing we don’t have in common is that he plans in advance much more than I do. He’s probably already done his Christmas shopping, and I’ll do it the last week," said Mrs. Schiff. "The thing is, when you’re married to someone who is that organized, and better at planning, sometimes you get worse. Because there’s that safety net." Mrs. Schiff said that she and Dr. Schiff are obsessed with e-mailing each other on their Blackberrys. "Sometimes we’re even in the same room," she said. "We call it ‘the Crackberry.’"

—Elon R. Green


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40 posted on 02/28/2004 1:26:57 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Ralph Nader's main message is a cynical one, more about tearing down than building up.

Ralph Nader, like him or not, has influenced this country throughout his career much more than Al Gore ever has. What exactly has Al Gore "built up" -- his resume?

41 posted on 02/28/2004 1:31:17 AM PST by NYCVirago
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The press fawning over these people make me sick. It is just like them telling us how "SMART" Hillary Rodham Clinton was. We all found out that was a lie. Karenna is a ditz just like her mother and as dumb as her father. Watch out, the little witch has "politician" in her blood.
42 posted on 02/28/2004 1:32:11 AM PST by kcvl
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To: NYCVirago
Karenna Gore Schiff with father Al Gore: “Sometime in my life, I might want to run for elective office.”


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43 posted on 02/28/2004 1:34:59 AM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl
"Perseus-Soros BioPharmaceutical"

Is this the SOROS?
44 posted on 02/28/2004 1:36:22 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: kcvl
At a glance, the Schiffs are absurdly accomplished.

Ah the self-satifying grandeur of being elite.

Too funny.

45 posted on 02/28/2004 1:36:29 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: kcvl
“Sometime in my life, I might want to run for elective office.”

I never would have guessed.

46 posted on 02/28/2004 1:37:00 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: DentsRun
Isn't Karenna Schiff the great granddaughter of Jacob Schiff, the New York banker who gave $20 million to Leon Trotsky and Vladimir Lenin to fund the Russian revolution?

Dang, you're GOOD. Same guy.

47 posted on 02/28/2004 1:37:44 AM PST by onyx
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To: Mo1
Guess what? Karenna's husband is now a physician-turned-biotech venture capitalist for a fund backed by financier George Soros!!!




“I’ll do whatever I can to help people with strong, progressive voices,” she said. “In terms of sheer volume, the right wing has really outshouted everybody right now. … I want to change that.”

If she wanted to run for Congress or New York City Council, she would have access top-notch strategists: Donna Brazile, who managed her father’s campaign, said Gore Schiff is the brightest, most capable young woman Brazile has ever met.

Rep. Harold Ford (D-Tenn.), who said that he does not remember not knowing Karenna, agreed that she could be a political force. “She’s strong willed and tough … more like her [paternal] grandmother,” he said. Pauline Gore was the first woman to graduate from Vanderbilt Law School in Nashville.

“She not only has a great political sense, but a real fighter’s instinct. Whenever there was a question of whether Gore should take a strong stand, or hit back, Karenna was always pushing her dad to go for it,” said Claire Shipman, who covered Gore during the 2000 campaign.

Then there are her father’s former political advisers, Carter Eskew and Mike Feldman at the Glover Park Group, who can be relied on for advice.

If politics is kept at arm’s length for now it is mainly because New York is a more varied town than Washington.

Her husband, Andrew “Drew” Schiff, is a physician-turned-biotech venture capitalist for a fund backed by financier George Soros. Their relative affluence allows them to live on the city’s Upper East Side, while his job gives her an entrée into the world of high finance.

In New York, Gore Schiff seems to have assembled the ingredients for a political career: a passion for issues, family, wealth, an avenue to broadcast her views in Glamour magazine, a $200,000 advance from Miramax Books for a book on unsung American heroines.

Cindi Leive, editor in chief of the magazine, hosted a party on Gore Schiff’s behalf at the Upper East Side restaurant Jo Jo for an article Gore Schiff wrote in the magazine’s November issue on child-care dilemmas facing working mothers.

In 2001, Gore Schiff wrote a Glamour article criticizing the Bush administration, which led to accusations on conservative websites that she talked down to her audience and proposed government-only solutions to vexing social problems — much like the attacks on her father.

Leive told The Hill that “I think she speaks with great authority about what it is like to be a young mother and a politically concerned young woman today” and that Gore Schiff would definitely write again.

For now, Gore Schiff said, she is focused on persuading her son to eat more than chocolate ice cream and only the pepperoni from pizza.

Until November, she had been working part time as a first-year associate at Simpson Thacher & Bartlett, a prominent New York City law firm. “It just wasn’t for me,” she said, referring to the culture of a big law firm where face time counts as much as billable hours.

She is now working for the Association to Benefit Children (ABC), a nonprofit group with a $13 million annual budget.

48 posted on 02/28/2004 1:41:05 AM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl; Shermy; onyx
Guess what? Karenna's husband is now a physician-turned-biotech venture capitalist for a fund backed by financier George Soros!!!

Well ain't that just special

Hey Shermy .. check out post #48

49 posted on 02/28/2004 1:45:19 AM PST by Mo1 (THE CUSTER CONSERVATIVES: "Not Smart... But Principled, Dammit!)
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To: Mo1; Liz; Grampa Dave; PhiKapMom; My2Cents

Thanks Mo.

Hey Liz, GD, PKM, M2C --- check out post #48
50 posted on 02/28/2004 1:48:25 AM PST by onyx
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