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To: Fedora; blam
I'm looking up some stuff on the topic of my last post now; here's something with some interesting discussion:

“Noah's Flood” and the Late Quaternary Geological and Archaeological History of the Black Sea and Adjacent Basins

One of the papers proposes something which sounds along the lines I was suggesting:

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A comparative analysis of the Late Glacial history of the inner basins of Eurasia enables us to suggest an alternative to the Early Holocene Flood that Ryan et al. (1997) thought could be the basis for the legend of Noah’s Flood. At the Late Glacial time (16-13 ka BP; 14C on mollusk’s shells) a Great Eurasian Basin System (~1.5 million km2, ~650,000-700,000 km3) developed due to a climate warming, the melting of the Scandinavia Ice Sheet and massive river discharge. This is supported by freshwater and alluvial sediments (e.g., chocolate clays, loams and sands with a thickness of ca 20-30 m) with endemic Caspian mollusks Didacna, Monodacna, Adacna, and Hypanis widely distributed from the Caspian Sea to the Dardanelles including waterways between the basins. At the beginning (16-15 ka BP), the flood was especially rapid, increasing the Caspian Sea level by 100-150 m, reaching +50 m and pushing the Volga River mouth upstream in ca 1,500 km. The discharge of the large (Volga, Don, Dnieper) and small rivers increased by 2-4 and 20-35 times respectively, causing megafloods. The high speed of the flood can be seen from incising river paleomeanders not filled with sediment. A large amount of water could not be kept in the Caspian depression and was discharged into the Neweuxinian basin (ancient Black Sea) through the Manych-Kerch Strait at a speed 50,000 m3 sec-1, and from there across the Bosporus to the Sea of Marmara. As a result, the level of the Black Sea increased by 60-70 m and reached a level of approximately -20 m at the end of the Pleistocene. Archeological evidence from the late Paleolithic sites (e.g., Kamennaya Balka, Avdeevo, Byki, and Kapova Cave) suggests that large-scale flooding of the coastal zone by water from the late Pleistocene basins together with river megafloods caused a reduction of available living space and hunting areas, resulting in a mass migration and subsequent increase in population density. The decrease in available food resources per capita affected everyday life of the Palaeolithic people and was likely to have stimulated the transition from hunting and gathering to farming and cattle breeding in the region. Thus, it is possible that this flood affected the Late Paleolithic people so deeply as to form the legend of the Great Flood.

-- LATE GLACIAL GREAT FLOOD IN THE BLACK SEA AND CASPIAN SEA

20 posted on 02/29/2004 1:09:47 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora
Very interesting post Fedora. If it was a glacial melt-off that was the trigger, this would also explain why the flood appears to be such a global phenom. From what I understand, just about every culture worldwide relates a flood story from its deepest history. It would be interesting to me if the flood had, in fact occurred much further back than is commonly supposed.
21 posted on 02/29/2004 1:49:48 PM PST by zeugma (The Great Experiment is over.)
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To: Fedora; zeugma
This analysis does not consider that the land masses under the ice sheets would have been severly depressed/compressed and at the same time, land to the south would have been 'sticking-up', something like a see-saw. Most of the melt water went 'the-other-way.' (somewhere through the Scandanavian countries?) And, that's why the Black Sea water level was still depressed by 550ft in 5600BC. All that fresh water didn't go through there?
24 posted on 02/29/2004 2:55:31 PM PST by blam
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