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Oh, For Art's Sake! (The Passion)
Anna Zetchus Raetz

Posted on 02/28/2004 8:54:36 PM PST by AnnaZ

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To: Nita Nupress
LOL

Har
41 posted on 02/28/2004 10:13:31 PM PST by Dr. Zoo (The Institute Of Phenomonology: Dr. Zoo, MSU)
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To: AnnaZ
Beautiful Anna. That is an angle I have not seen written before.
42 posted on 02/28/2004 10:16:23 PM PST by McGavin999 (Evil thrives when good men do nothing!)
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To: over3Owithabrain
Yes- I had the exact same thoughts- anger that I would be watching the film closely for any whiff of anti semetism. I would like to view it again with that nonsense issue being closed in my mind.
43 posted on 02/28/2004 10:17:34 PM PST by Burkeman1
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To: unspun
Thanks for the comments. I have found it rather interesting when folks have talked about the incredible pre-release hype about this movie, as if Gibson and company were responsible for it. One guy refered to this as, 'pre-release promotion'. LOL

Gibson was forced into using focus groups who viewed the movie, to adjust the final product to one that wouldn't offend too many. When he did this, his willingness to try to work with concerned groups was completely dismissed, and refered to as pre-release hype.
44 posted on 02/28/2004 10:19:40 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: AnnaZ
I'll be seeing it Sunday for the first time.
45 posted on 02/28/2004 10:22:29 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture (Remember, name and town, name and town, if you wish to opine)
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To: incindiary
Fancy seeing you here ;-)
46 posted on 02/28/2004 10:24:47 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture (Remember, name and town, name and town, if you wish to opine)
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To: AnnaZ; Syncro
Gosh Anna...how profound fer sure.

:>)

Really, a fantaztic commentary!

You have done it again, kudos kiddo.

I am not going to see the movie, I saw it 30 years ago.

I pinged Syncro, I am sure he will have a comment too...LOL

BTW, Michelangelo Buonarroti was one of my grate inspirations to create Art, as was François Auguste René. 1840-1917.

His problem? He thunk too much...

47 posted on 02/28/2004 10:29:04 PM PST by Dr. Zoo (The Institute Of Phenomonology: Dr. Zoo, MSU)
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To: Askel5
Just an aside Askel but I haven't been on FRep for awhile and I miss your posts...
48 posted on 02/28/2004 10:34:44 PM PST by teresat
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To: Burkeman1
I didn't see any anti-semite in the film and I have seen it twice now. There was a group of rabbis on Greta Van Susterns show a couple of days ago that said that afte seeing the movie it had a lot of hooked jews in it and after I saw it for the second time I think there was only two people that I saw with hook noses. Hardly the outcry they were talking about.
49 posted on 02/28/2004 10:39:12 PM PST by teresat
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To: teresat
Your kidding? They said "hooked noses"? That is sad- the most Jewish "looking" character was Peter! He is about the only character in the film that could even come close to having a "hooked" nose! And who knows what Jews looked like 2000 years ago anyway? With all the mixing and melting that naturally occurs among peoples over thousands of years- Jews of today most likely look nothing like Jews of two millenia ago. I doubt the Irish of 2000 years ago looked anything like they are said to look now.
50 posted on 02/28/2004 10:45:48 PM PST by Burkeman1
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To: Nita Nupress
By the 2nd hour of the movie I was in downright pain.
Try to think of it as having been, in some way, cross-carrying (s'posed to be done daily : ).
 
No WAY was I going to get up and miss something!
I didn't want to look away for a second. Until I had to.
 
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51 posted on 02/28/2004 10:47:33 PM PST by AnnaZ (I hate Times New Roman... and it's all Mel Gibson's fault!)
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To: per loin
I'd not be surprised that another attack will come.

The attacks will not stop until they find another target for their animosity.

Their rage has nothing to do with anti-semitism, nor violence, nor anything other than their problems with the fact that this film acknowledges that Jesus is indeed the Son of God. Their secularist nature doesn't allow them to accept that, as well as the fact that one principle tenet of secularist doctrine is to undermine the trusted institutions of society whenever possible. Thus the movement for homosexual marriage, when not a one of them gives a damn about marriage beyond its destruction as an institution.

These people have been carrying on this fight for decades, with the libertines of the 60s now in power in industry, education, entertainment, and the media. The question is: What are we traditionalists going to do about this campaign? We might have them outnumbered, but too many of us are still asleep.

52 posted on 02/28/2004 10:50:02 PM PST by Marauder (If God lived on earth, liberals would sue Him. And what lawyer wouldn't handle it?)
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To: AnnaZ
You have written a beautiful review. Thanks for taking the time and effort. It makes a difference.
53 posted on 02/28/2004 10:52:14 PM PST by baseballmom
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To: AnnaZ
As a Catholic I highly identified with this film and it's near scene for scene matching of the Stations of the Cross that can be found in any Catholic Church and the recitation of The Passion. The Passion plays a central role in Catholic faith. Just curious - do Protestant Christians place the same emphasis on Holy Week and especially Good Friday as Catholics do?
54 posted on 02/28/2004 10:53:51 PM PST by Burkeman1
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To: Askel5
Probably one of the most magnificent works of Christian art we've had in some time ... particularly given the rank ugliness of most churches, the desacralization of sanctuaries, and the "modern art" ritual deformation and vivisection of the human being.
All I could think of as I thought of the critics' faux outrage was "meathook art", lik that flayed cow exhibit that made the rounds. And they give it grants.
 
One heads up even three or four viewings probably wouldn't have allowed me to notice: Jesus responds to Pilate in Latin. Nice touch, I thought.
I actually caught that, odd considering I know neither language. I will probably see it probably three times in the theatre, something I've never done before, the third time on Holy Thursday. Hopefully by then I'll be able to ignore the subtitles altogether. 
 
Blessings!

55 posted on 02/28/2004 10:56:43 PM PST by AnnaZ (I hate Times New Roman... and it's all Mel Gibson's fault!)
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To: abigail2
I also had listened to too many reviews and read too many articles.
I have never read so many reviews and editorials about a single film before. And still I read on, add, even, to the din.
 
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Do you think the sleeping giant has awakened?
There's hope. The Blue-zone elitists overplayed their hand on this one, I think.

56 posted on 02/28/2004 11:01:13 PM PST by AnnaZ (I hate Times New Roman... and it's all Mel Gibson's fault!)
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To: AnnaZ; Dr. Zoo
Thanks for the ping, AnnaZ

Dr. Zoo pinged me too.

Oh BTW, Dr. Zoo that is the same as Auguste Rodin.

Don't cornfuze people.

The Palace of the Legion of Honor in San Francisco is a grate place to see Rodin and Michelangelo's works.

57 posted on 02/28/2004 11:06:00 PM PST by Dr. Zoo (:>)
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To: Askel5
Yikes, I have a host of typos in that post... sorry, too many distractions in this place.

58 posted on 02/28/2004 11:06:32 PM PST by AnnaZ (I hate Times New Roman... and it's all Mel Gibson's fault!)
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To: AnnaZ
Great article!

I too, need to see it again, to experience the film without filtering it through the negative spin.

Plus, it's like voting for it twice!
59 posted on 02/28/2004 11:07:44 PM PST by GeorgiaYankee
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To: AnnaZ
"As I exited the theatre after seeing it opening night, I was suffused with love for my fellow man and resolute in my philosophy that there is nothing of greater import than one's relationship with God, with one's Creator, and that, at the end of the day, it's between the individual and Jesus."

This is the truth.
60 posted on 02/28/2004 11:08:05 PM PST by freekitty
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