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Flashback! Excerpt from Kerry on CrossFire in 1997 (Kerry RIPS into France, et al)
CrossFire (excerpts only from Lexis-Nexis - fair use, public comments) | 11/12/97

Posted on 02/29/2004 11:34:02 AM PST by jmstein7

SHOW: CNN CROSSFIRE 19:30 pm ET

November 12, 1997; Wednesday 7:30 pm Eastern Time

Transcript # 97111200V20

JOHN SUNUNU, CROSSFIRE: Senator Kerry, in fact, in spite of the administration claiming it has restored unanimity, that has not occurred. All the strength of this resolution had to be pulled out of it get any votes at all other than our own. Isn't this exercise actually counterproductive in sending a signal to Iraq that the coalition still remains frayed?

SEN. JOHN KERRY, (D), MASSACHUSETTS, FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE: Well, John, you're correct that this resolution is less than we would have liked. I don't think anybody can deny that we would have liked it to have threatened force and we would have liked it to carry the term serious consequences will flow. On the other hand, the coalition is together. I mean the fact is there is a unanimous statement by the security council and the United Nations that there has to be immediate, unrestricted, unconditional access to the sites. That's very strong language. And it also references the underlying resolution on which the use of force is based. So clearly the allies may not like it, and I think that's our great concern -- where's the backbone of Russia, where's the backbone of France, where are they in expressing their condemnation of such clearly illegal activity, but in a sense, they're now climbing into a box and they will have enormous difficulty not following up on this if there is not compliance by Iraq.

...

KERRY: Well, John, there's absolutely no statement that they have made or that they will make that will prevent the United States of America and this president or any president from acting in what they believe are the best interests of our country. And obviously it's disappointing. It was disappointing a month ago not to have the French and the Russians understanding that they shouldn't give any signals of weakening on the sanctions and I think those signals would have helped bring about this crisis because they permitted Saddam Hussein to interpret that maybe the moment was right for him to make this challenge.

...

SUNUNU: But isn't what he has seen is a loss of U.S. leadership and an erosion under an administration that has failed to lead?

KERRY: On the contrary. The administration is leading. The administration is making it clear that they don't believe that they even need the U.N. Security Council to sign off on a material breach because the finding of material breach was made by Mr. Butler. So furthermore, I think the United States has always reserved the right and will reserve the right to act in its best interests. And clearly it is not just our best interests, it is in the best interests of the world to make it clear to Saddam Hussein that he's not going to get away with a breach of the '91 agreement that he's got to live up to, which is allowing inspections and dismantling his weapons and allowing us to know that he has dismantled his weapons. That's the price he pays for invading Kuwait and starting a war.

...

KERRY: Correct, absolutely correct, and I believe, and they stood with us today and I am saying to you that it is my judgment that by standing with us today and calling for the unrestricted, unconditional, unlimited, you know, access, they have now taken a stand that they are duty bound to enforce and if Saddam Hussein doesn't do that, the president, I think, has begun a process which you remember very well, John, was not done in one week, in one day, in one month. It took months to weave together the fabric to lead up to an understanding of what was at stake. I am convinced that many people have not yet even focused in full measure on what is at stake.

...

PRESS: Are you suggesting, are you calling for a military, U.S. military strike against Iran now before...

SUNUNU: Iraq.

PRESS: Iraq, I'm sorry, before any other United Nations action is taken?

KING: No, I'm saying is that very soon, though, we would have to use the threat of military force because as Bill Richardson said that this, these are delaying tactics brought about by the Iraqis and this is very serious. When you're talking about biological warfare and when you're talking about the fact that they've already adjusted the cameras, they've already fooled around with the equipment which gauges the air, they've already moved some of the devices away from the U.N. inspectors. This is a very, very serious situation and I'm saying that we would have to, I think, threaten very severe military action at an early date. Now exactly what that would be is obviously, we have to get more information on it, but based on I think what all of us know, it is very, very critical and not too much time more can be wasted.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1997; 2004; 2004election; compellingreasons; crossfire; doublestandard; election2004; historic; iraq; iraqpolicy; iraqwar; johnkerry; kerry; kerry2004; kerryquote; kerryquotes; kerryrecord; ketchupandwaffles; lovedclintonswars; lyingliar; makingthecase; mediabias; mediagiveshimapass; napalminthemorning; saddam; saddamhussein; thecaseforwar; topplesaddam; un; unfailure; unitednations; wafflesandcketchup; wot
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These are just excerpts of comments by a public official in the course of his public duty.
1 posted on 02/29/2004 11:34:02 AM PST by jmstein7
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To: jmstein7
I guess he'll deny that he was ever on Crossfire.
2 posted on 02/29/2004 11:36:58 AM PST by Paul Atreides (Is it really so difficult to post the entire article?)
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To: Paul Atreides
Yeah. Waffles?

Kerry is SUCH an easy target; I'll bet he HATES Lexis-Nexis!

:)
3 posted on 02/29/2004 11:39:00 AM PST by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: jmstein7
Bookmarked and BUMP!!!! kerry(not capitolised on purpose), supreme waffler(and LOSER)!!!!
4 posted on 02/29/2004 11:40:26 AM PST by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: jmstein7
KERRY: On the contrary. The administration is leading. The administration is making it clear that they don't believe that they even need the U.N. Security Council to sign off on a material breach because the finding of material breach was made by Mr. Butler. So furthermore, I think the United States has always reserved the right and will reserve the right to act in its best interests. And clearly it is not just our best interests, it is in the best interests of the world to make it clear to Saddam Hussein that he's not going to get away with a breach of the '91 agreement that he's got to live up to, which is allowing inspections and dismantling his weapons and allowing us to know that he has dismantled his weapons. That's the price he pays for invading Kuwait and starting a war.

Kerry explains Bush's position better than Bush!!

Only problem is that he doesn't mean it.

Or does he?

Or doesn't he?

Or does he?

On every issue, that's his problem.

5 posted on 02/29/2004 11:41:01 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (I don't believe anything a Democrat says. Bill Clinton set the standard!)
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To: jmstein7
KERRY: "Now exactly what that would be is obviously, we have to get more information on it, but based on I think what all of us know, it is very, very critical and not too much time more can be wasted"

Ballgame.

6 posted on 02/29/2004 11:42:15 AM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: All
Download the WHOLE transcript HERE.
7 posted on 02/29/2004 11:45:05 AM PST by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
Kerry explains Bush's position better than Bush!!

Of course, at the time he was in fact 'splainen Clintoon's "position."

8 posted on 02/29/2004 11:48:19 AM PST by Cuttnhorse
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To: jmstein7
Let's have Kerry get the nomination first. Then, once we're starting to get into the real campaign, unload it all on him.

If Bush plays Kerry's record/waffles the way he should, it will be like shooting fish in a bucket.
10 posted on 02/29/2004 11:48:48 AM PST by GiveEmDubya (John Kerry has more baggage than a Samsonite warehouse)
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To: Defender2
Don't forget he's also a kept man.
11 posted on 02/29/2004 11:49:00 AM PST by tertiary01 (Learn from history or it will be repeated until you do.)
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To: tertiary01
#11. Yea, LOL!!!!:-)

kerry get his political instructions from these guys:

http://www.dsausa.org/


D2
12 posted on 02/29/2004 11:51:13 AM PST by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
Ketchup and waffles... Yuck!
13 posted on 02/29/2004 12:05:34 PM PST by weegee (Election 2004: Re-elect President Bush... Don't feed the trolls.)
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
You have to realize that CLINTON was President then and the French were pulling those antics. What's a Northeast liberal Senator to do?
14 posted on 02/29/2004 12:08:24 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
"It wasn't hip to protest Clinton."
15 posted on 02/29/2004 12:09:06 PM PST by weegee (Election 2004: Re-elect President Bush... Don't feed the trolls.)
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To: jmstein7
You made a great find. I think the chances are great this will now get a larger circulation in the media, and you deserve the credit.
16 posted on 02/29/2004 12:20:46 PM PST by BCrago66
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To: BCrago66
Woo-hoo!
17 posted on 02/29/2004 12:23:13 PM PST by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: BCrago66; jmstein7
One way to get this in the media is to send it to Drudge, Rush, NewsMax, Fox, the NY Times, the Washington Times, the Washington Post and your hometown paper.
18 posted on 02/29/2004 12:31:22 PM PST by weegee (Election 2004: Re-elect President Bush... Don't feed the trolls.)
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To: jmstein7
Download the WHOLE transcript

Can this be verified as a legitimate transcript? Is it available from LEXIS-NEXIS?
19 posted on 02/29/2004 12:54:26 PM PST by WackySam ("There's room for all God's creatures- right next to the taters")
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To: weegee
Starting to do that...but bypassing the NYTimes and Washington Post, because they're only occasionally in the news business.
20 posted on 02/29/2004 12:55:10 PM PST by BCrago66
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To: WackySam
Yes.

Do you really think I just typed that up off the top of my head???
21 posted on 02/29/2004 1:00:30 PM PST by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: BCrago66
Well this was on the front page of the NYTimes today:

Hussein's Regime Skimmed Billions From Aid Program [major expose of UN Oil-for-Food program]

It's just as easy to include them in the email CC (it's not like you have to type up a whole new letter or anything).

Whereas the Old Grey Whore has little credibility with us, some out there in flyover country still haven't caught on so all avenues to spread the word are helpful.

22 posted on 02/29/2004 1:08:36 PM PST by weegee (Election 2004: Re-elect President Bush... Don't feed the trolls.)
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To: jmstein7
bump
23 posted on 02/29/2004 1:09:41 PM PST by KSCITYBOY
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To: jmstein7
Do you really think I just typed that up off the top of my head???

Relax, I didn't mean to imply that I thought *you* had made it up. I do have a problem believing *any* document downloaded from a private website is genuine. This is why I wanted to know if it is also available from a respected source(s). I hope very much that it is.
24 posted on 02/29/2004 1:14:45 PM PST by WackySam ("There's room for all God's creatures- right next to the taters")
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To: GiveEmDubya
I say go after him now. Right now, other Demrats are still "in the race" and their supporters can be counted on exposing Kerry for being "just like Bush".

After the Demrats have tied up the nomination, the media won't be so likely to cover anything that would taint their guy. At the very least they would supress it (print the story on the day of some other breaking news item).

I can't count on the media being willing to print anything in the future, go public with it now.

This is no October surprise.

25 posted on 02/29/2004 1:18:06 PM PST by weegee (Election 2004: Re-elect President Bush... Don't feed the trolls.)
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To: weegee
ping for later
26 posted on 02/29/2004 5:18:58 PM PST by xlib
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To: jmstein7
bump
27 posted on 02/29/2004 8:51:22 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: All
bump
28 posted on 03/02/2004 7:05:47 AM PST by zook
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To: GiveEmDubya
Let's have Kerry get the nomination first.

That should happen sometime tonight.

The evidence of flip-flops and duplicity by Kerry is a virtual bottomless well. Dump some today. Dump some tomorrow. Dump something everyday.

Don't worry. He'll make more.

29 posted on 03/02/2004 7:09:49 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: zook
bump for reference
30 posted on 03/15/2004 11:02:14 PM PST by WillRain
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To: jmstein7

Bud, keep up the great work of exposing this maniac's hypocrisy. Awesome.


31 posted on 06/08/2004 11:46:17 AM PDT by NYC Republican (President Reagan (1911 -2004)- Greatest President of Our Lifetime- Rest in Peace)
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To: jmstein7

Nice job, that is F*&#^$G classic. I used that info already to B(*$&H slap some libs today.


32 posted on 06/08/2004 11:58:00 AM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a 6 month old son with Down Syndrome)
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To: New Perspective; NYC Republican

I'm glad you guys rediscovered this one!


33 posted on 06/08/2004 12:02:22 PM PDT by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: GiveEmDubya

This article has been posted before but there is always someone who hasn't seen it.

With such limited exposure for such damaging quotes, I don't want to wait to start circulating this.

I've had it (and an old thread) on my profile page for over a month (and bookmarked even longer).


34 posted on 06/08/2004 12:07:53 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: weegee

How DID this thread get back on the sidebar?


35 posted on 06/08/2004 12:09:30 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: weegee

It's a good one, eh? Two other guys dug it up, and I was thinking along the same lines as you -- i.e. that people need to see this.


36 posted on 06/08/2004 12:10:41 PM PDT by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: jmstein7

BTTT


37 posted on 06/08/2004 12:11:17 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; MeekOneGOP; Peach; onyx; backhoe; Mich0127; Howlin; cripplecreek; ...

Important Kerry Info BUMP!!!


38 posted on 06/08/2004 12:12:19 PM PDT by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: PhiKapMom; Happy2BMe; Hillary's Lovely Legs; bert; Petronski; God luvs America; kristinn; mhking; ..

Important Kerry Info BUMP!!!

Useful stuff.


39 posted on 06/08/2004 12:17:01 PM PDT by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: jmstein7

Kerry was against France, but then supported France.


40 posted on 06/08/2004 12:19:31 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: weegee

Absolutely. El Senador Flip-floppo must be held accountable for his lies, waffles, and positions on key issues.


41 posted on 06/08/2004 12:26:13 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya (Godspeed Ronaldus Magnus)
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To: jmstein7







42 posted on 06/08/2004 12:28:22 PM PDT by adam_az (Call your State Republican Party office and VOLUNTEER!!!!)
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To: jmstein7

I'm so glad you've reposted this.

I've sent it to the RNC in my state, Marc Racicot, Bush, Hannity, Savage, Boortz and my state senator.

Now if the administration would just use it!

This probably wasn't the best week to send them stuff so I'll do it again next week.


43 posted on 06/08/2004 1:05:27 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: weegee

A lot of media types won't open a link sent them via e-mail because of virus fears.

I've copied and pasted the transcript into an e-mail. The transcript clearly outlines which number it is so the media can get a copy from the archives to verify.


44 posted on 06/08/2004 1:07:17 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: All
Since the TV and Cable newsrooms refuse to expose this traitor I will.
Odd how the internet and talk radio know he's a traitor
BUT the TV and Cable newsrooms won't "question his patriotism".

Only idiots would vote for a traitor.

My favorite post for DUmmies and trolls.

"I’m an internationalist. I’d like to see our troops dispersed through [sic] the world
only at the directive of the United Nations."
Hanoi John Kerry, The Harvard Crimson, 1970


HANOI KERRY
has a Campaign Platform
Just like the old days!


"It is a fact that in the entire Vietnam War we did not lose one major battle.
We lost the war at home and at home John Kerry was the field general"

- Bob Elder, Swift Boat Veteran For Truth


"I do not believe John Kerry is fit to be commander in chief of the U.S. armed forces,"
said retired Rear Adm. Roy Hoffmann, chairman of the organization.
"This is not a political issue. It is a matter of honesty."


I was there the same time Hanoi Kerry was.
I served on the destroyer USS Corry DD-817 which supplied PCF's and PBR's
and gave gunfire support in North AND South Viet Nam.
My ship may have even supplied Hanoi Kerry's boat.
I VOW I will do everything I LEGALLY can
to keep this traitor from being elected.
68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub



The book that Kerry
wishes would just go away.
HanoiJohnKerry.com is a blog with a primary purpose. That purpose is to counter the preposterous claims of Sen. John Forbes Kerry (D-MA) that he has any legitimate claim to any sort of "brotherhood" among combat veterans of the War in Vietnam.

While it is generally supposed that his service as a Naval officer on a "Swift Boat" in that theater was adequate and honorable, there is much to question regarding his readiness to allow the accolade "war hero" to be applied to him.

Likewise, it is not at all uncommon for more senior Naval officers to raise an eyebrow at the swiftness and relative comfort by which Lt. JG Kerry attained those medals, and who is available to vouch for the efficacy of his being awarded them (since, as boat commander, it would be his own task to make recommendation for awards for all personnel, including himself, on the Swift Boat).

But most egregious was his conduct, words and associations upon his early-out (from SEA) return to the USA and discharge from the US Navy. His leadership role with the radical pro-Communist (inaccurate to deem this group "anti-war") group called "Vietnam Veterans Against the [Vietnam] War" (hereafter VVAW).

It was while climbing the social and political ladder of the pro-Soviet Left as a principle of VVAW that John Kerry found his political soul-mate in Hanoi Jane Fonda. Granted, these politically formative years for Kerry were prior to the more outlandish acts of Fonda that earned her that name, but it is easily documentable that Fonda did not under go any radical transformation in belief or character from the time she and Kerry were working the same side of the street to the time she traveled to Hanoi, NVN and entered US history as the most overt traitor to ever NOT be charged, tried and executed.

John Kerry went to his own overt extremes to demonstrate that, politically, socially and in lowness of character, there wasn't a nickel's worth of difference between he and Fonda. Thus, in the spirit of fairness and accuracy, we are reasonably certain that he will be agreeably flattered by calling him Hanoi John Kerry.

Here, testifying before the Fulbright Senate Foreign Relations Committee, is where John Kerry, spokesman for Vietnam Veterans Against the War, cemented his position and moniker as "Hanoi John" Kerry. This was the occasion where US troops still in the field in Vietnam learned from one of their FORMER brothers-in-arms that they were heinous murderers and war criminals. HJK would now like to call on them for support in his bid to be the new Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces. Perhaps the most preposterous hypocrisy of all.




45 posted on 06/08/2004 1:09:25 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Kerry is a traitor)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

That graphic is outstanding!

Says it all with pictures -- even the DUmmies can understand it. LOL!

Can I forward it to people?


46 posted on 06/08/2004 2:02:52 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: BushisTheMan; StarCMC
"Can I forward it to people?"

Yes, please do.
StarCMC made that bottom graphic.
47 posted on 06/08/2004 3:08:01 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Kerry is a traitor)
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To: jmstein7

Don't expect FOX News to carry this.
On the 3PM PST FOX News Edition today is running John Kerry for President ads.


48 posted on 06/08/2004 3:16:07 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Kerry is a traitor)
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To: Arrowhead1952; alaska-sgt; OneLoyalAmerican; Defender2; armyboy; txradioguy; kjfine; Long Cut; ...
BARF ALERT!

The 3PM PST Edition of FOX News today is running
John Kerry for President ads.


How low can the media go to run ads for a traitor!







49 posted on 06/08/2004 3:31:48 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Kerry is a traitor)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

And those 2 vets are probably being paid.


50 posted on 06/08/2004 3:37:01 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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