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"Not peace but a sword" (Safire slams The Passion)
New York Times ^ | Mar 1 04 | William Safire

Posted on 02/29/2004 9:12:37 PM PST by churchillbuff

By WILLIAM SAFIRE

Published: March 1, 2004

Columnist Page: William Safire

WASHINGTON — ...Mel Gibson's movie about the torture and agony of the final hours of Jesus is the bloodiest, most brutal example of sustained sadism ever presented on the screen.

...[snip] — the bar against film violence has been radically lowered. Movie mayhem, long resisted by parents, has found its loophole; others in Hollywood will now find ways to top Gibson's blockbuster, to cater to voyeurs of violence and thereby to make bloodshed banal.

What are the dramatic purposes of this depiction of cruelty and pain? First, shock; the audience I sat in gasped at the first tearing of flesh. Next, pity at the sight of prolonged suffering. And finally, outrage: who was responsible for this cruel humiliation? What villain deserves to be punished?

Not Pontius Pilate, the Roman in charge; he and his kindly wife are sympathetic characters. Nor is King Herod shown to be at fault.

The villains at whom the audience's outrage is directed are the actors playing bloodthirsty rabbis and their rabid Jewish followers. This is the essence of the medieval "passion play," preserved in pre-Hitler Germany at Oberammergau, a source of the hatred of all Jews as "Christ killers."

Much of the hatred is based on a line in the Gospel of St. Matthew, after the Roman governor washes his hands of responsibility for ordering the death of Jesus, when the crowd cries, "His blood be on us, and on our children."

Though unreported in the Gospels of Mark, Luke or John, that line in Matthew — embraced with furious glee by anti-Semites through the ages — is right there in the New Testament. Gibson and his screenwriter didn't make it up, nor did they misrepresent the apostle's account of the Roman governor's queasiness at the injustice.

But biblical times are not these times. This inflammatory line in Matthew — and the millenniums of persecution, scapegoating and ultimately mass murder that flowed partly from its malign repetition — was finally addressed by the Catholic Church in the decades after the defeat of Naziism.

In 1965's historic Second Vatican Council, during the papacy of Paul VI, the church decided that while some Jewish leaders and their followers had pressed for the death of Jesus, "still, what happened in his passion cannot be charged against all Jews, without distinction, then alive, nor against the Jews of today."

That was a sea change in the doctrinal interpretation of the Gospels, and the beginning of major interfaith progress.

However, a group of Catholics rejects that and other holdings of Vatican II. Mr. Gibson is reportedly aligned with that reactionary clique. (So is his father, an outspoken Holocaust-denier, but the son warns interviewers not to go there. I agree; the latest generation should not be held responsible for the sins of the fathers.)

In the skillful publicity run-up to the release of the movie, Gibson's agents said he agreed to remove that ancient self-curse from the screenplay. It's not in the subtitles I saw the other night, though it may still be in the Aramaic audio, in which case it will surely be translated in the versions overseas.

And there's the rub. At a moment when a wave of anti-Semitic violence is sweeping Europe and the Middle East, is religion well served by updating the Jew-baiting passion plays of Oberammergau on DVD? Is art served by presenting the ancient divisiveness in blood-streaming media to the widest audiences in the history of drama?

Matthew in 10:34 quotes Jesus uncharacteristically telling his apostles: "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." You don't see that on Christmas cards and it's not in this film, but those words can be reinterpreted — read today to mean that inner peace comes only after moral struggle.

The richness of Scripture is in its openness to interpretation answering humanity's current spiritual needs. That's where Gibson's medieval version of the suffering of Jesus, reveling in savagery to provoke outrage and cast blame, fails Christian and Jew today.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: blindleadingtheblind; christianity; gibson; gospels; moviereview; passion; safire
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To: churchillbuff
Now would be a good time for the average Jew to rise up against the Pharisees in Hollywood. Let their voice be heard.
101 posted on 03/01/2004 6:25:01 AM PST by cupcakes
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To: jwalsh07
Not only that he does everything in his power to put the ultimate decision on someone else--by sending Jesus to Herod and washing his hands of his blood. Trying to absolve himself of responsibility to save his own hide. I didn't come away with sympathy for him at all. Even though I know the story, I keep yelling at him to do the right thing and as a typical politician he, of course, does not.
102 posted on 03/01/2004 6:27:31 AM PST by cupcakes
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To: churchillbuff
But biblical times are not these times.

Let's put the Bible into the PC shredder pronto!

103 posted on 03/01/2004 6:28:03 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
"Their justifiable paranoia, which in former times served as an effective means of self-preservation, lingers on, despite its obsolescence, and, in present times, only serves as an impediment to clarity of thought and sensibility of reason."

Well now isn't this just tooooo rich..... "THEIR JUSTIFIABLE PARANOIA....

Who sits UPON THAT seat to determining what is "JUSTIFIABLE".....

Christ, birth, ministry, and death was all foretold in the OLD by the prophets. Some of these accusers claim to hold the key to. From Genesis on all things points to Christ.

This is beginning to look like a replay of KING JEHU told about in IIKings 9.
104 posted on 03/01/2004 6:34:27 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: freebilly
Same here and not only that I was openly hostile to Christianity as well.
105 posted on 03/01/2004 6:34:48 AM PST by cupcakes
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To: churchillbuff
However, a group of Catholics rejects that and other holdings of Vatican II. Mr. Gibson is reportedly aligned with that reactionary clique.

That's a horribly misleading statement, and Safire is too smart not to recognize that. Vatican II addressed a great many issues, and disagreement with Vatican II does not necessarily mean disagreement with the specific conclusion that all jews should not be blamed for the death of Jesus. In any case, Gibson has expressly stated his view that jews in particular should not be blamed for the death of Jesus, and that all people, of all backgrounds, share that blame. For Safire to imply that Gibson believes otherwise is a knwing misrepresentation.

I don't have a strong religious faith of any kind, but these unfair attacks on Gibson are really bogus.

106 posted on 03/01/2004 6:39:58 AM PST by XJarhead
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To: churchillbuff; hobbes1; xsmommy
The richness of Scripture is in its openness to interpretation answering humanity's current spiritual needs.

Current spiritual needs? What's current? Human nature hasn't changed one bit in 2000 years.

107 posted on 03/01/2004 6:43:10 AM PST by NeoCaveman (New and improved is typically neither!)
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To: dubyaismypresident; xsmommy
The richness of Scripture is in its openness to interpretation answering humanity's current spiritual needs.

Now we have Living Scripture??????

One wonders if Wild Bill is a 'Living Constitution" guy as well.....RMFE...

Human nature hasn't changed one bit in 2000 years.

And Not in the last 218 either.Except for the Worse...maybe

108 posted on 03/01/2004 6:46:39 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: Swordmaker
Well said. Also it should be noted that if you do any sort of search on the anti-semitic, white only types on the internet you are likely to turn up folks who have a disdain for Christianity and are vigorously pagan. These pagan, white-pride types despise Christ because He was a Jew.
I think Jews forget that, that Jesus was a Jew sent to fulfill JEWISH prophecy. Why on earth would anti-semites choose to bow down and worship the most JEWISH amongst Jews? Or worship a God who long ago set Jews apart?
People have to dig a little deeper to understand the absurdity of calling a devout Christian anti-semitic. They also need to a take a trip to the many white supremacy sites on the net where you will find the vast portion of folks declare paganism and a return to their "white European" roots.

109 posted on 03/01/2004 6:49:00 AM PST by cupcakes
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To: 7thson
Well said!
110 posted on 03/01/2004 6:50:45 AM PST by cupcakes
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To: Arthur McGowan
The Catholic Church never taught anything other than what Vatican II taught. I am sick of THIS particular libel--that the Catholic Church taught anti-Semitism UNTIL 1965.

I am sick of this slander too.

111 posted on 03/01/2004 6:51:35 AM PST by NeoCaveman (New and improved is typically neither!)
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To: Arthur McGowan; hobbes1; dubyaismypresident
The Catholic Church never taught anything other than what Vatican II taught. I am sick of THIS particular libel--that the Catholic Church taught anti-Semitism UNTIL 1965.

most Jews also ascribe knowledge of what Vatican2 provided, to all catholics. i had this very discussion with a Jewish friend and coworker last week. he was aghast when i said i rejected Vat2 and was a preVat2 Catholic. he thought i meant that i rejected the reconciliation with the Jews. though i consider myself fairly well informed, i had no idea that Vat2 was considered the seminal moment in Jewish-Catholic rapproachment. i doubt many catholics do. Yet, he assumed that i had that knowledge because i went to Catholic school and my children do as well. he was surprised to learn that those things aren't TAUGHT in Catholic schools, because Judaism is wrought with rules and law and regulations, he thought Catholicism was taught the same way. we have both benefited from our discussions.

112 posted on 03/01/2004 6:53:29 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: freebilly
Matthew 10:34-39 34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. 37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. 39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

Your right. This isn't about moral struggle.

This is warning HIS potential followers that if they follow HIM they will be at odds with their friends and relatives who will still cling to traditional Jewish views and would reject Jesus as the Messiah. - Tom

113 posted on 03/01/2004 7:06:09 AM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb republicans. - Capt. Tom)
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To: Just mythoughts
Well now isn't this just tooooo rich..... "THEIR JUSTIFIABLE PARANOIA.... Who sits UPON THAT seat to determining what is "JUSTIFIABLE".....

Perhaps "understandable" would have been a more accurate choice of word.

114 posted on 03/01/2004 7:06:36 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Why the long face, John?)
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To: cupcakes; okie01
Another thought came to me when I read your posts. During the time of Jesus, who were some of the most hated and despised individuals? The tax collectors. Why? Because, they turned against their own people to work hand in hand with the occupying force/power. Who were the occupying force? The Romans. Who were the people? The Jews. They were despised by their own people and were shocked when Jesus reached out to them. One - shamed of his work - became a disciple. This is analgolus of the individual who wrote AMAZING GRACE. Reading the Bible - Old and New Testament - you find multiple examples of good and evil Jews. That is one of the main messages of Jesus - that good and evil resides in all of us! It is who we plant these seeds that determine how they grow.
115 posted on 03/01/2004 7:07:28 AM PST by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a 100 pounds.)
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To: churchillbuff
Has Safire ever before devoted a column to denouncing violence in Hollywood films?

Perhaps he should be crucified. From what I hear, it's not a bloodless activity.

It always amazes me that these elitist-pinheads and/or Hollyweird wackos think nothing of bashing ANY film with a conservative or religious or moral theme but they attack anyone who does the same to flicks like Natural Born Killer or Texas Chainsaw Massacre or any of the other sadistic/pornographic/anti U.S. films that're produced en masse in that hell-hole we call Hollywood.

But, and my fingers are crossed, I think the tide's turning. What with the gay-lesbian activists breaking the law with impunity, with judicial activists making laws instead of interpreting them, and with the "professional" politicians from both parties only paying lip service to the silent majority's complaints . . . I think the Silent Majority has finally decided to be silent no more.

The internet is the Great Equalizer. The New Yawk Slimes, ABCCBSNBSCNN, and all the other liberal newspapers, TV networks, and magazines can no longer lie with impunity.

116 posted on 03/01/2004 7:08:59 AM PST by geedee (The young man knows the rules, but the old man knows the exceptions.)
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To: cupcakes
Mathew’s statement "his blood on us and on our children after us" is simply a fact – no one can tell us to change our bible to please their paranoia. These desert type people used to hold the grudge for many generations. If you killed my father, and I am unable to kill you, may be my son will kill your son. Now this nonsense life of tribes in desert is no longer the way of life in the USA, except the Hollywood crowds, who are still targeting people career for destruction.

The simple fact is millions of people saw this movie, and not one single incident of violence against Jews was reported. The reality is Christians are not like Jews, they were ordered to LOVE YOUR ENEMIES! They walk out of the movie with a sense of sadness of how much suffering Jesus has endured to save us ALL. The Roman, or the Jew who caused him that pain are not related to me or to you, or to any Jew or Italian who is alive today, certainly, we cannot punish people after two thousand years! If my great great grand father was a Jew, do I hate myself now? If I am married to a Jew, do I go and kill my wife? The hysteria, and paranoia of some Jews is very stupid.

117 posted on 03/01/2004 7:13:55 AM PST by philosofy123
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To: jude24
One of my friends tried to use this as an evangelistic film for a classmate, who for some reason thought the scourging scene was terribly funny...

That's sick. I bet/hope it was an act and not sexual. It's clearly a case of the exception proving the point.

118 posted on 03/01/2004 7:26:10 AM PST by Theophilus (Save little liberals - Stop Abortion!!!)
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To: philosofy123
Safire is old hat, nobody even listens to him any longer.

A crochety malcontent who admits he voted for Clinton...lol, what an old joke he has become.
119 posted on 03/01/2004 7:54:00 AM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: churchillbuff
I had never heard of this "Oberammergau" thing. So, I googled:

http://www.jrep.com/Jewishworld/Article-44.html

Oberammergau is a Bavarian town that has staged the Passion annually over the last 370 years. It remains a big tourist draw.

Here's a quote from the article:

"For Jews, the drama, which blamed them for the crucifixion, has had a darker side. It often stirred the crowds into a frenzy of anti-Semitism. After attending a 300th anniversary performance in 1934, a delighted Adolf Hitler praised the play as a "precious tool" in the war against the Jews."

I'm growing weary of this, making Christians responsible for twisted, intentional subversion of the doctrine. Nazism and anti-semitism is not Christian. Its roots are in resurgent national paganism and eugenics; these were intellectual movements.
120 posted on 03/01/2004 8:04:11 AM PST by tsomer
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