Posted on 03/01/2004 1:02:30 AM PST by Richard-SIA
I have reviewed all fourteen known "amendments" to S. 1805.
NONE of them are acceptable!
Some are merely inappropriate for inclusion with S. 1805, others are the answer to a question that does not need to be asked, or "problems" that do not exist.
A couple attempt to make Law Enforcement officers into Super Citizens, granting them extraordinary rights and privileges that are not available to the common citizen. Such nonsense is not acceptable!
The balance are clearly "poison pill's" designed to destroy the bill!
There is no need, and no constitutional authority, for congress to "Ban" ammunition of any type, under any pretext. No "study" is needed to "address" the non-existent "issue" of "armor piercing ammunition". Current law is more than adequate in this area.
The "Boxer Amendment" is alarming in the extreme! It falsely claims to address a non-issue, as most manufacturers ALREADY supply locks or locking containers with their hand guns. The congress has no business creating another unfunded mandate to harass gun manufacturers and dealers. Attempting to do so as an amendment to THIS bill is all the more insulting!
Even worse than the possible mandating of locks is her STEALTH attempt at granting the seditionist who have been trying to destroy our second amendment right to arms one of their fondest dreams! I refer to giving the "Consumer Product Safety Commission" a role in overseeing the sales and marketing of firearms. This initial mandate might appear trivial to casual thought. But it flies in the face of existing law, creating the "thin edge of the wedge" for the CPSC to expand their authority over firearms manufacture and sales. MS. Boxer and her seditionist allies are fully aware of the "mission creep" that all federal agencies engage in, they are COUNTING ON IT in their effort to reverse the intent and effects of S. 1805!
I fully expect that even more feculent "amendments" will be offered in the next few days. It is widely reported that the votes are available to pass this bill without amendments, and THAT is what must be done.
The liberal seditionist have two goals with their amendments, neither of which must be allowed to happen.
The first is to hijack or destroy the bill via odious amendments, such as an "extension" of the Clinton gun bans, registration schemes, ammo ban, etc..
The second is to cause a massive back-lash among conservatives and gun owners against president Bush, the republican party, NRA, and even our very republic.
If this bill is derailed, or passed after being subjected to unbearable amendments, the result will be a massive defection of conservatives from the republican party! Few will vote liberal, but MANY would view that result as proof that both parties are run by "republicrats" and stay home on election day.
S. 1805 MUST pass as a clean bill, any other result risk the loss of Pres. Bush's re-election and conservative control of the congress.
"...I can safely guarantee you that your Senators stopped reading it at that point too, and tossed it into the 'nutcase file.' "
That's a bet which I would not put any money against myself, actually.
As a matter of fact, I rather doubt that they even got past my name, as they no doubt know me all too well by now and have religated me to their respective "Kook Lists / Whackko Files" quite some time ago.
In order to have any credibility with these two, I would probably have to "tone it down" to the point where I was begging for an extension of the AWB to include all guns and sharp pointy-things as well, and asking where I should go to surrender all of my naughty-things to the Government.
Please hold not thy breath waiting for any such "diplomacy" from this recalcitrant old Yankee Onkel.
I don't know why I bother, really; it's sort of a study in futility.
But even if our cause is an obviously lost one, some of us seem compelled to at least make that one last gesture or word of defiance as they drag us down into the keep, in vain as it well might be.
UJ
Our cause is lost because we fear based. We will continue to vote for the 'lesser of evils' instead of true conservatives because we fear how much 'worse' it would be if the other side got elected (never mind that everything the 'other side' does is with the cooperation and aid of 'our side'). Fear attracts that which it is fixated on. Until we start voting for people who genuinely represent conservatism (and I'm not talking about the Arnie types) and the Pubbies lose a few elections to the 'other side' because of it, there will be no change in the way things are going: The Repbulicans will not run true conservatives till people refuse to vote for false conservatives.
BUMP
The Pubs are starting to cause me to rethink the concept of Mutual Assured Destruction. At what point does the quickest way to the right become a hard shove of the pendulum to the left?
"Until... the Pubbies lose a few elections to the 'other side' because of it, there will be no change in the way things are going..."
Ditto there!
Only problem is - "Pubbies" don't seem to pay any attention at all to history.
BUSH #41 essentially turned on and betrayed his Conservative Base, considering us to be a mere fringe ideaology and not worth offending any potential "undecided moderate" Voters over.
Had he stuck to the Regan Mandate and staid the course, Perot would never have even been an issue, IMHO, and we would never have had to endure 8 years of Klinton.
But his "advisors" told him the same blarney that ROVE is selling to BUSH #43 now, and Party Chair GILLESPIE has been snickering in almost the same words used by Lee Atwater in 1989, then Chairman of the Republican National Committee under President G.H.W. Bush (41) responding to conservative indignation at what we considered to be betrayals and sell-outs to the Dems with:
"Where are they (Conservative Republicans) going to go?" (Hahahahah....)
Well; in 1992 he found out, didn't he?
Remember???
These elite, arrogant Party muckettymucks up in the National Committee apparantly don't.
And after 4 years of that "crush to the Left", what did our Grand Old Party produce to save our Country, Constitution, and Culture from the continuing Klinonian morass?
The Old Elephant dutifully squatted, grunted, sweated, strained, and out popped...
"VIAGRA MAN"!!!
Now There was a real Champion of Conservatism!
Enter Perot; Take #2! - 4 more years of Klinton Syndicate in the White House.
So if they must repeat this ill-advised lurch to the left and subsequently we end up with a President KERRY, does anyone out there really think that the GOP Upitty-Ups will get the message THIS TIME?
I won't be holding my breath for it, frankly.
Seizing defeat out of the jaws of victory seems to be about the GOP's strongest suite.
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Just heard something on the radio - the vote is apparently in, and it looks like party - time for the "Antis".
Surprise, surprise...
OK, thanks! I thought you might know if the votes are recorded somewhere.
"wait until January and try again with more GOP seats."
I'm afraid that if the GOP wins any seats, much less retains those we have, they will probably be RINO seats at best. And "we" will still need at least 66 seats in order to maintain any sort of a fillibuster-proof "majority" in the Senate.
The only "Republicans" allowed to run for the House or Senate from Maine lately are "former SNOWE Aides" (Lackies).
The last one who wasn't (JOYCE) an outspoken Pro-Lifer, BTW, was essentially hung out to dry by his own Party, as near as I can tell, and was brutally trounced by the Dem incumbant, naturally.
And there have been Democrats, frankly, who I have trusted as much if not more than any of these RINO SNOWE-CLONES.
You've struck the nail on the head.
Any time a politician "owns your vote", you can forget about getting him to do anything on your behalf. Why should he? After all, there's no reason to do anything for you -- you're already in the bag. Nope, forget you, buddy. He's gonna go after the other votes -- the ones he doesn't own. That's why you see Rove & Co. pandering to the liberals. It's pretty basic stuff. What's in the bag is in the bag, so go after what's not in the bag.
The sad part is that "what's in the bag" has an established track record of staying "in the bag". It may kick and mumble and grouse (grouse, ha ha, I made a pun), but in the long run, it settles down and stays in the bag.
Same deal with "the Black community" and the RATS, and even though you hear noise from that general direction every now and then about not holding the nose and voting "D", it all melts away on election day.
That's the same principle Master Rove is counting on, and he's so confident in it that he cracks jokes about it.
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