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Firing on U.S. Citizens.
Vanity | Fithee

Posted on 03/01/2004 5:18:27 AM PST by Fithee

As I recall, just after the Clintons were elected (remember we got two for one) a questionaire went out to military personnel asking them if they would be willing to fire on their fellow American citizens. I believe it was related to the confiscation of firearms.

If anyone has kept references to newspaper articles that validate that 'horrific' democratic socialist liberal leftist act, please post.


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To: FreePaul
Be more interesting to see if we got rid of the twenty six percent who said yes.

At this point I'd say it's more likely they were promoted.

21 posted on 03/01/2004 5:50:24 AM PST by steve50 ("Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under." -H. L. Mencken)
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To: Fithee
You want my gun? Come and get it.
22 posted on 03/01/2004 5:51:32 AM PST by upchuck (Ta-ray-za now gets to execute her "maiming of choice." I'm hoping for eye gouging, how 'bout you?)
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To: Consort; Austin Willard Wright; Sloth; Grut; steve50; KantianBurke; Henrietta; Joe Hadenuf; ...
"Correct, yet many right here on this sight want to repeat that same mistake in the upcoming election."

Correct

I had initial thoughts of posting some of their names here, and decided, in the intrest of FR, not to do so.

Instead I will leave you with this thought ...



"The history of American politics is littered with bodies of people who took so pure a position that they had no clout at all
… Ben C. Bradlee

23 posted on 03/01/2004 5:52:48 AM PST by G.Mason (God does not take sides with men, we must side with God ... George Washington)
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To: Fithee; *bang_list
Posted to *bang_list
24 posted on 03/01/2004 5:55:10 AM PST by Copernicus (A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
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To: Consort
Silly me .... You called them to it I see.
25 posted on 03/01/2004 5:55:21 AM PST by G.Mason (God does not take sides with men, we must side with God ... George Washington)
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To: G.Mason
oh please. When did legitimate criticism of the Bush administration on such topics as illegal immigrants and free pills fall under your definition of treason??
26 posted on 03/01/2004 5:55:44 AM PST by KantianBurke (Principles, not blind loyalty)
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To: Consort
You must excuse me.

It was I who placed their names in the To: listing.

I'm having trouble getting my brain to function this morning.

27 posted on 03/01/2004 5:58:27 AM PST by G.Mason (God does not take sides with men, we must side with God ... George Washington)
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To: KantianBurke
treason??

Excuse please, did I say treason?

28 posted on 03/01/2004 5:59:28 AM PST by G.Mason (God does not take sides with men, we must side with God ... George Washington)
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To: Fithee
Hack looked into this back when he was still in favor at FR and found it to be an urban myth.

It never happened, but the rumor keeps popping up on the net from time to time.
29 posted on 03/01/2004 6:00:29 AM PST by Ronin (When the fox gnaws -- Smile!!!)
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To: G.Mason
Playing innocent huh. Figures. Sorry but if anyone's been causing bodies to pile up in this country its Bush's refusal to enforce immigration law. Contrary to those who wear rose colored glasses, illegals are inciting quite a bit of crime including murder and rape. Those of us who call Bush on his neglect aren't the bad guys.
30 posted on 03/01/2004 6:04:27 AM PST by KantianBurke (Principles, not blind loyalty)
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To: KantianBurke
further ....... I don't believe the discussion was about GWB's policies, rather about those who would vote in protest against him, for an un-electable third party, and therefor for a Democrat.
31 posted on 03/01/2004 6:05:27 AM PST by G.Mason (God does not take sides with men, we must side with God ... George Washington)
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To: G.Mason
....... I don't believe the discussion was about GWB's policies, rather about those who would vote in protest against him, for an un-electable third party, and therefor for a Democrat.

The discussion was about US troops and their reactions to an alleged survey. You seem to have changed the direction of the thread to party line politics.

32 posted on 03/01/2004 6:11:06 AM PST by steve50 ("Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under." -H. L. Mencken)
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To: Fithee
While in the Army in the late 1960's we trained for riot control at Fort Belvoir in Maryland. Most of the training consisted of advancing in formations with bayonets unsheathed. We were told if called to cope with a riot, we would have a limited amount of ammunition. We were on alert for riot response on the east coast in the First Army. We also were told the Army had seven levels of force they would apply to get control. The last level was the firing of bullets which required permission from authorities high up and was considered very unlikely. I got the sense we were going to slug it out in hand to hand combat. We had very little body armour. Our helmet liners were it.

Shortly after I left the Army, National Guard troops fired on students at Kent State. I had the feeling that the National Guard of those days was made up of less disciplined soldiers, and they panicked.

33 posted on 03/01/2004 6:17:41 AM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: G.Mason
To all who complain about GWB....Why complain about the Presidential Election when Congress is America's biggest enemy? The voters keep electing the same "hogs at the trough" congressmen over and over. Blame Bush for Iraq yet tip toe around the fact that only Congress can approve a war. BUSH 2004!!
34 posted on 03/01/2004 6:30:12 AM PST by georgia outlaw
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To: RockChucker
Our professional military does know right from wrong. However the risk to military firing on US Citizens comes from the civilian leadership.

No military operations will ever occur in the US without the approval, ROE, and Mission statement coming directly from the President and the SECDEF along with civilian branch secretaries.

So if for some unforseen reason the "military" ever does fire on US citizens you can be assured that the fault lies in the electorate.

This is an often overlooked facet in the decision making process known as voting. If you don't know what a person stands for and believes you shouldn't vote for them. But there are whole segments of our country that votes for someone because they were told to. I don't pity them in the least when they get what they ask for.
35 posted on 03/01/2004 6:39:43 AM PST by American_Centurion (Daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime - Nicole Gelinas)
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To: steve50
"You seem to have changed the direction of the thread to party line politics."

With all due respect, I was replying to a statement made by Consort earlier in the thread.

36 posted on 03/01/2004 6:46:33 AM PST by G.Mason (God does not take sides with men, we must side with God ... George Washington)
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To: American_Centurion
Took the words right out of my mouth.

I have always blamed Clinton on America. He is a reflection of us and our desires.
37 posted on 03/01/2004 6:49:22 AM PST by RockChucker
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To: Fithee
I was in the Marines when he was elected, and heard of no such questionnaire.

Marine Inspector

38 posted on 03/01/2004 6:52:19 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Never underestimate the powers of a Dark Clown Darth BoBo)
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To: sheltonmac
bttt
39 posted on 03/01/2004 6:54:11 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Never underestimate the powers of a Dark Clown Darth BoBo)
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To: Fithee
The survey may or may not have been a myth. But what is not a myth is the fact that at least one policeman that I know flat out stated that he would shoot it out with his own father if an order came down to confiscate all firearms.

Maybe it's time to survey policemen on the question.

40 posted on 03/01/2004 6:58:23 AM PST by Eastbound
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