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Asteroid Theory of Dinosaur Extinction Questioned
Reuters ^ | Mon Mar 1, 2004 | Maggie Fox

Posted on 03/01/2004 8:54:16 PM PST by anymouse

Scientists probing a vast crater off Mexico's Yucatan peninsula questioned a popular theory about dinosaurs on Monday, saying the collision that formed the crater happened too far back in time to have caused their extinction by itself.

Much evidence points to the idea that an asteroid or comet gouged the Earth around 65 million years ago, triggering volcanic and climate changes that eventually wiped out the dinosaurs.

When the huge, mostly underwater crater was found off Yucatan, it seemed the perfect candidate.

"Since the early 1990s the Chicxulub crater on Yucatan, Mexico, has been hailed as the smoking gun that proves the hypothesis that an asteroid killed the dinosaurs and caused the mass extinction of many other organisms at the Cretaceous-Tertiary (K-T) boundary 65 million years ago," the researchers write in this week's issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (news - web sites).

But they said a core drilled out of the middle of the crater suggests it dates back more than 300,000 years before the K-T boundary and "thus did not cause the end-Cretaceous mass extinction as commonly believed."

The researchers, led by Gerta Keller of Princeton University and including experts from Germany, Switzerland and Mexico, studied a sample that extends 5,000 feet below the current surface, in the middle of the more than 125-mile-wide crater.

Other samples have included tiny pieces of glass-like rock that could have been melted during an asteroid impact, and which seem to date to the 65-million-year point, give or take a few hundred thousand years.

But their core sample showed fossils that suggest the crater was blasted out 300,000 years before the K-T boundary. Magnetic evidence also suggests it is older than previously believed.


This finding would support an alternative theory that the dinosaurs and other forms of life were wiped out in a series of disasters that changed the Earth's climate, Keller's team said.

They noted there are other craters dating to around this time. None is big enough to have caused world-altering changes by itself.

But the meteors or asteroids hit at the same time of a busy period of volcanic activity known as Deccan volcanism, as well as when greenhouse-type atmospheric warming and major extinctions occurred.

"The Chicxulub impact occurred at a time of massive volcanism which led to greenhouse warming," Keller said in an interview conducted by e-mail.

The name Deccan comes from an area of what is now India where a massive amount of molten material surged up from near the Earth's core 65 million years ago.

It would have brought vast amounts of carbon gases to Earth's surface, causing a warming effect that would have wiped out many species of plants and animals.

"This finding suggests that the K-T boundary impact (and volcanism) may have been the straw that broke the camel's back, rather than the catastrophic kill of a healthy thriving community," the researchers concluded.

Now they need to find the actual crater left by whatever made this final blow. Perhaps one known as the Shiva crater in India, dating to around the same period, is the one, they suggested.

"There is evidence for a third impact, which occurred about 150,000 years after the K-T mass extinction," Keller said.

This impact may have made it harder for plants and animals to recover from the worldwide effects of the blasts from space and from within the planet.

TOPICS: Culture/Society; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: archaeology; asteroid; catastrophism; chicxulub; chicxulubcrater; climatechange; deccantraps; deccanvolcanism; dinosaurs; gertakeller; ggg; globalwarming; godsgravesglyphs; history; paleontology; theory; volcanism
Charles Darwin is deeply saddened. :)
1 posted on 03/01/2004 8:54:17 PM PST by anymouse
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Deccan vulcanism could have been the actual cause of the demise of the dinosaurs. When Mt St Helens blew its top, global climate was noticeably affected. Sixty five million years ago, the Deccan flows emitted over 500,000 times more material, enough to cover the entire surface of the earth by a layer 10 ft thick if evenly distributed. Instead, it covered most of ther continent of India to a depth of over a mile.
2 posted on 03/01/2004 9:06:46 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Any day you wake up is a good day.)
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To: anymouse
3 posted on 03/01/2004 9:14:16 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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Problem with the theory is that cooling would have occurred, just as it has with every major eruption. That would also explain it, but it does not fit the Global Warming religion.
4 posted on 03/02/2004 4:10:35 AM PST by KeyWest
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Not a ping, just adding to the GGG catalog. This is just a load, in case anyone wondered about MHO. Reminds me of the old joke -- a docent at a museum tells the group of tourists that a fossil skeleton was from a creature that went extinct 65 million three years ago. "How can that be so exact?" "Because when I started working here three years ago, they told me it had died 65 million years ago." Before the Chicxulub crater was first identified (circa 1990, although Pemex actually identified it in 1960) as the "smoking gun", the foot-draggers claimed that the dinos had been going extinct for a while before the supposed impact. This is just a handful of global warming demagogues grinding their political axes.
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5 posted on 04/04/2005 10:40:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Friday, March 25, 2005.)
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As far as I know, noone has explored whether the deccan traps eruption was the result of an iron meteor strike that actually shattered the crust of the earth. That would explain the unique flow patterns (and the size) of that feature.

6 posted on 04/07/2005 10:54:34 AM PDT by FormerRep
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Yeah, good point... the Deccan Traps were saddled on as the volcanic source for the clouds of crud that snuffed out the dinos -- but this was rejected, partly due to the Alvarez theory bandwagon effect, and mostly because the Traps were formed over such a long period (i.e, they weren't all erupting at the same time). The idea that all the volcanoes in the world simultaneously erupted at the KT boundary -- something that was put forward ad hoc without any basis in the data -- begged the question, "what made all of them erupt"? In recent years, someone (a slow-extinction, no "Great Dying" advocate?) did an alleged study claiming that large impacts wouldn't trigger such eruptions. (':

7 posted on 04/07/2005 11:04:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Friday, March 25, 2005.)
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from 2004.

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8 posted on 01/01/2007 9:08:07 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Ahmedumbass and the mullahcracy is doomed.
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