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Senate Republicans scuttle gun bill
USATODAY ^

Posted on 03/03/2004 2:06:03 AM PST by Happy2BMe

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:42:02 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON Democrats and Republicans fought to a draw in the Senate over guns Tuesday in a series of votes that could shelve most gun-control and gun-rights legislation for the year but elevate the issues in this fall's elections.

Sen. Larry Craig, R-Idaho, the sponsor of the gunmaker immunity bill, said he would urge his colleagues to vote it down.


(Excerpt) Read more at usatoday.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; arms; bang; banglist; beararms; georgeallen; gun
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To: Happy2BMe
Pure election year theater. They can all go back and claim whatever sells in their states, and there is nothing to really blame on anyone.
21 posted on 03/03/2004 6:49:39 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: Happy2BMe
"Democrats blamed Al Gore's support for gun licensing and registration in 2000 for his loss in Southern and rural states, where hunting is a part of growing up. Since then, Democrats have veered toward a middle course, touting themselves as defenders of "responsible" gun ownership."

They stayed on that "middle course" until they found a chance to turn as hard left as they could, then they turned. This conclusively proves Kerry and whomever his VP candidate is will be just as fanatically determined to take all of our guns as the Clintons were and are.
22 posted on 03/03/2004 6:52:16 AM PST by libstripper
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To: All
it was worth it just to see the face of Feinstein
23 posted on 03/03/2004 6:52:57 AM PST by The Wizard (democrats are enemies of America)
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To: All
it was worth it just to see the face of Feinstein after gloating before lunch
24 posted on 03/03/2004 6:53:10 AM PST by The Wizard (democrats are enemies of America)
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To: Happy2BMe
this was a smart move, and surprisingly enough, the GOP did it...
25 posted on 03/03/2004 6:54:48 AM PST by The Wizard (democrats are enemies of America)
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To: Happy2BMe; Joe Brower; Travis McGee; Squantos
Joe and fellow patriots, I have to say yesterday was a low point for me. I'm quite frustrated with our politicians who have such difficulty understanding the Constitution. Gallup says 61% (if memory serves) want "stronger gun laws." The sheep are led astray... The wolves are waiting for us.
26 posted on 03/03/2004 6:54:56 AM PST by risk
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To: snooker
Can you give me a complete list of all the amendments that were in the Bill?

Why is it so hard for you to understand the Republicans had a pro-gun Bill in an election year?
27 posted on 03/03/2004 7:11:50 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Shooter 2.5
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/vote_menu_108_2.htm

28 posted on 03/03/2004 7:17:49 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Shooter 2.5
"Why is it so hard for you to understand the Republicans had a pro-gun Bill in an election year?"

You obviously didn't see what happened to the pro-gun bill, did you?
29 posted on 03/03/2004 7:25:51 AM PST by snooker
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To: snooker
Yes, I did. The anti-gun dem party only had six members on our side against the AWB. It's their fault we have gun control and I'm not going to reward them on election day.
30 posted on 03/03/2004 7:53:45 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: OXENinFLA; Shooter 2.5
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:SN01805:@@@L&summ2=m& <-- Link

This one gives a good picture of events too, and describes the summary contents of each amendment.

31 posted on 03/03/2004 8:21:59 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Happy2BMe; Squantos; glock rocks
Yesterday was a tense day for me when the amendments started passing. I was making so many phone calls to DC to request the Bill be killed, that I couldn't keep track of whose office I was dialing.

When it finally was killed it felt as if someone had taked the semi truck off of my chest and I could once again breathe a sigh of relief.

Waking up this morning I laid in bed wondering if my 60 or so phone call actually had an effect on what happened on the Senate floor.
32 posted on 03/03/2004 8:31:54 AM PST by B4Ranch (Don't be so open-minded your brains fall out.)
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To: B4Ranch
It did make it happen..........I have added my congresscritters to my speed dial on my phone and fax . Yesterday and tomorrow it will need to get done again and again as long as folks keep voting in RINOS and RATS to office.

Get ready to do it many times before and after the elections.

Good Work B4ranch !!.........Stay safe !

33 posted on 03/03/2004 8:49:28 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Squantos
Once a year, during recess I'll put on one of my overly expensive suits and just drop in on them. A quiet conversation with the Rep. and a couple of staff managers, a few thousand $$ later, they'll remember my name for another year.

What a damn lousy way to do business with our elected Reps!
34 posted on 03/03/2004 8:58:13 AM PST by B4Ranch (Don't be so open-minded your brains fall out.)
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To: Happy2BMe
"The 'selling out' of America never looked so dismal. Zero border control, job outsourcing, 2nd Amendment rights hanging by a thread, queer mairrages forcing sodomy on the population, divorce better than 55%, millions of abortions a year . . Political correctness byproducts, one and all."

Yup, it doesn't look good. I am afraid we are headed for a revolution or a civil war, and I do not say that lightly. It's bound to happen, sooner or later (I think sooner, in this case). The country is too polarized. The Left has unleashed an all-out assault on everything moral and honorable and just that freedom loving and God-believing Americans hold dear. The conflict is now inevitable: The anger and the distrust and the contempt the two sides have for each other is not only palpable, it's bursting at the seams. It will be an interesting conflict. God help us.
35 posted on 03/03/2004 8:59:27 AM PST by ought-six
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To: risk
Well that's the problem ....Gallup needs to giddyup and refine their poll skills. The Squantos poll yesterday said 100% of those polled were against gun cuntrol !

Go figure !............:o)

Stay safe !

36 posted on 03/03/2004 9:14:34 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Amendment II = A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

in·fringe To transgress or exceed the limits of; violate: infringe a contract; infringe a patent. Obsolete To defeat; invalidate. EX: To encroach on someone or something; engage in trespassing: an increased workload that infringed on his personal life.

37 posted on 03/03/2004 11:26:05 AM PST by hosepipe
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To: Happy2BMe
Unless a whole bunch of Democrats changed sides, 90-8 means that there were a goodly number of Democrats who assisted the sinking.
38 posted on 03/03/2004 12:50:58 PM PST by George Smiley (Is the RKBA still a right if you have to get the government's permission before you can exercise it?)
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To: ought-six; JackelopeBreeder; Spiff; B4Ranch; Sabertooth
Ping on #35
39 posted on 03/03/2004 3:04:50 PM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: Happy2BMe
The article said: Republicans said they could not vote for a bill that included provisions opposed by their core constituents.

This is all very nice and warm and fuzzy, but why did so dang many republicans vote for those dumb-ass amendments to begin with?

No amendments would have meant a clean bill that may have had a good chance of passing.

This bill was NOT about guns; it was about trial lawyers.

40 posted on 03/03/2004 3:14:03 PM PST by dbwz
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