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Passionless dialogue [Steer clear of ABC's embarrassing, cliche-surfeited 'Judas']
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| 3/6/04
| Andrew Coffin
Posted on 03/03/2004 10:33:51 AM PST by Caleb1411
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To: Caleb1411
These Socratic questions that pop up on FR is the main reason why I love this place. LOL.
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posted on
03/03/2004 11:13:09 AM PST
by
Liz
To: Caleb1411
Three monkeys, two hours.
To: Miss Marple
I thought about it very carefully. I've known Tim for many years, knew he could do a great job as Pilate, and I believed the audience would be capable of looking past his hilarious performance in ANIMAL HOUSE (which was 25 years ago). I felt that Tim could deliver, and after the audience got over its initial shock, they'd accept him. I think he pulled it off in spades. Watch the film and judge for yourself. It airs Monday, March 8, 9:00 p.m. Pacific Time.
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posted on
03/03/2004 11:15:31 AM PST
by
karnage
To: Miss Marple
This kid is playing Judas:
And this one is playing Jesus:
I wish this was a joke.
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posted on
03/03/2004 11:16:34 AM PST
by
EllaMinnow
(The best days of America lie ahead GWB 2/23/04)
To: Caleb1411
Herod refers to John the Baptist as "a pain in the ass." It's enough to make one long for Aramaic.LOL :-)
To: Caleb1411
In another scene, Herod refers to John the Baptist as "a pain in the ass." John the Baptist uses more polite language, referring to Herod as "a pain in the neck."
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posted on
03/03/2004 11:16:58 AM PST
by
steve-b
To: Caleb1411
Sounds more like an 'Ed Wood' directed version of the story!
I won't watch it, but I bet it'll be HILARIOUS!!!
To: concerned about politics
(Gag) Disney (owner of ABC) in its unmitigated gall has announced that it will take on CS Lewis' Narnia series.
Morons trying to finger-paint a Masterpiece.
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posted on
03/03/2004 11:21:23 AM PST
by
Liz
To: karnage; Miss Marple
You directed this? So then any comments you make in support of it are a clear conflict of interest and must be dismissed as blatant self-interest.
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posted on
03/03/2004 11:24:38 AM PST
by
Liz
To: Caleb1411
Jesus replies, somewhat chagrined and regretful, "Well, don't be. You know, I was trying to make a point and lost my temper. You can't change a man's heart by yelling at him, by humiliating him, by taking away his livelihood."This alone decides it for me. No way will we watch this drivel.
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posted on
03/03/2004 11:24:53 AM PST
by
cyncooper
("Maybe they were hoping he'd lose the next Iraqi election")
To: karnage
I am sure Tim did a good job. However, he is unfortunately forever typecast as the person who uttered the words "double secret probation."
I will give it a look to be fair, since you have bravely appeared here to talk about the film. I will give you my honest opinion. And I will try to be open-minded.
To: karnage
Most of the dialogue hovers between the painfully funny and just plain painful. Judas first meets the Messiah after witnessing Jesus clearing the Temple of merchants. Judas, to Jesus, over a cup of wine: "You know, I have to tell you, I was very impressed with what you did at the Temple today." Jesus replies, somewhat chagrined and regretful, "Well, don't be. You know, I was trying to make a point and lost my temper. You can't change a man's heart by yelling at him, by humiliating him, by taking away his livelihood." This is about as far from the gospels as you can get. This is soap opera dialog, not Son of God stuff.
To: karnage
Karnage: If you take your faith seriously, which I won't doubt, how can you work for ABC? They are just shy of the College of the Anti-Christ.
To: Arkinsaw
I had mentioned on a thread the other day discussing this movie that there was nothing bad in and of itself exploring Judas. I am re-reading the novel "I, Judas" by Taylor Caldwell, myself. BUT, now having seen the snippets of dialogue, especially that attributed to Jesus, I can see that ABC has blown it. BIG TIME.
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posted on
03/03/2004 11:26:57 AM PST
by
cyncooper
("Maybe they were hoping he'd lose the next Iraqi election")
To: karnage
Wow Karnage, didn't know we had a director in our midst. Kind of disconcerting to be dissembowling a movie I hadn't seen only to have the director show up! I had to run down and tell my wife what an ass I made of myself.
Because you are and have been here so long, are a Catholic and believe in your work, we'll watch it with an open mind. I do apologize for my words too, brother.
To: karnage
Thanks for your input.
As I just mentioned, I was actually looking forward to perhaps watching this, but I have to say these representations of the dialgue and the hints at plot points sound silly if not outright offensive.
What's your name?
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posted on
03/03/2004 11:29:40 AM PST
by
cyncooper
("Maybe they were hoping he'd lose the next Iraqi election")
To: redlipstick
I can't see Jesus in your post.
:0
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posted on
03/03/2004 11:31:08 AM PST
by
cyncooper
("Maybe they were hoping he'd lose the next Iraqi election")
To: redlipstick
I mean I can't see Judas!
I see a blond kid for Jesus.
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posted on
03/03/2004 11:31:39 AM PST
by
cyncooper
("Maybe they were hoping he'd lose the next Iraqi election")
To: Miss Marple
I've never seen Animal House!
LOL
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posted on
03/03/2004 11:32:44 AM PST
by
cyncooper
("Maybe they were hoping he'd lose the next Iraqi election")
To: Caleb1411
I.E... "Judas needs a little respect" - ABC's idealogues for this Weaslelogue..
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posted on
03/03/2004 11:33:47 AM PST
by
hosepipe
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