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Some 9/11 relatives angered by Bush ads
AP ^ | 3/04/04 | LIZ SIDOTI

Posted on 03/04/2004 3:56:07 PM PST by kattracks

Edited on 07/06/2004 6:39:34 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON (AP) President Bush's campaign commercials on the air just one day have angered several relatives of victims of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, and a firefighters union that has endorsed Democratic rival John Kerry demanded the ads be pulled.


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Notice that both the title and the content have changed from this earlier report. Did the AP rush out to find the other people whose positive remarks are added in the second report, or did they just not bother adding them in the first?

9/11 Victims' Kin Angered by Bush Ads (Big time media bias alert)

Could the fact that the AP's bias was so very obvious and truly angered so many people have had this result.

1 posted on 03/04/2004 3:56:07 PM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Are the naysayers the ones who also rejected the first government 9/11 settlement because they considered it too low (thereby wanting to profit from the loss of their family members)?
2 posted on 03/04/2004 4:00:42 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: kattracks
"It makes me sick," said Colleen Kelly, who lost her brother Bill Kelly Jr., in the attacks and leads a victims families group called Peaceful Tomorrows. "Would you ever go to someone's grave site and use that as an instrument of politics?

Isn't this what John Kerry is doing, dancing on the graves of those who fought and died in Vietnam, trying to make his service there a political plus?

3 posted on 03/04/2004 4:02:09 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: kattracks
Nine-eleven belongs to all Americans. Liberals cannot accept that because they are not Americans. They certainly object to free speech.
4 posted on 03/04/2004 4:03:28 PM PST by NetValue (They're not Americans, they're democrats.)
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To: kattracks
But the images in the Bush ads have sparked a furor.Yeah, because the furor is orchestrated.

I would think the families of 9/11 victims would be more angry with the Democrats, whose attitude seems to be, "9/11? Let's move on..."

5 posted on 03/04/2004 4:05:12 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: My2Cents
"since ny brother was there I am central to the universe" said Colleen Kelly. /sarcasm

I feel for this womans loss but she isnt the only one effected by 911. She had better get some thicker skin.
6 posted on 03/04/2004 4:08:04 PM PST by mylife
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To: kattracks
leads a victims families group called Peaceful Tomorrows.

And who is Colleen Kelly and Peaceful Tomorrows? Read on.

Colleen's Excellent adventure to Iraq - Human Shield Alert

7 posted on 03/04/2004 4:10:09 PM PST by Mike Darancette (General - Alien Army of the Right (AAOTR))
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To: All
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1090784/posts
Sept. 11 Families Disgusted by Bush Campaign Ads
Yahoo (Reuters) ^ | 3/4/04 | Mark Egan
People that protest this ad would rather forget about 9/11. Guess what? It did happen and during Bush's presidency. Not only does he have a RIGHT to reference the event, he has an OBLIGATION to do so...
These people put their own political agenda ahead of the country's safety.
Doyle and Willett--
"Quite honestly, he probably would have gotten booed," Bill Doyle, who lost his son Joey in the attack, said of a Bush visit.
 The 9-11 Visibility Project.
Meet the Willet family.Willets..
Mr. Doyle is in the liberal media rolodex. Every time they need a quote attacking Bush, he's there with fresh new material: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/05/17/families.htm
Willett is a real piece of work:
A letter to the FTC.

8 posted on 03/04/2004 4:11:13 PM PST by backhoe
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To: kattracks
I'm just about sick of the 9/11 families pissing and moaning about everything. I'm sorry that they lost family members and I take it very personally myself, but I'm tired of them bitching that nothing they get is ever good enough and they alone should hold sway over public opinion, media coverage, and memorials of that fateful day. They greatly over-estimate the number of people who really give a crap what they think. Take the $1.6 million, go buy a condo and a Mercedes, and shut the hell up. Their settlement is more than anybody else's survivor benefits and they've received more public sympathy than any other group of victims in American history with the possible exception of concentration camp Jews. Enough already. < /rant off >
9 posted on 03/04/2004 4:12:05 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (All the good taglines are taken.)
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To: kattracks; Howlin; Liz; ALOHA RONNIE; RonDog
...a firefighters union...

Aren't these gubmint workers? And would it really be proper if they become partisan - like this?

10 posted on 03/04/2004 4:12:17 PM PST by Libloather (Charter member - VRWC - # EIB-04151982)
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To: kattracks
Many of the kin of the survivors (and their lawyers) are still jockeying for big bucks. All this "I am offended" stuff is just posturing. New York City unions are ultra dem and a union member from NYC is unquestionably going to speak for the dems (some might actually vote correctly, but, if they talk at all, it'll be for the lefties).
11 posted on 03/04/2004 4:13:13 PM PST by Tacis
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To: kattracks
The Democrats prefer that 9/11 be forgotten. We will never forget.
12 posted on 03/04/2004 4:13:16 PM PST by GreenHornet
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To: kattracks
Jennie Farrell, who lost her brother, electrician James Cartier, called the ad "tastefully done," adding: "It speaks to the truth of the times. Sept. 11 ... was something beyond the realm of imagination, and George Bush ... led us through one of the darkest moments in history."

... one other point of view..well said!

13 posted on 03/04/2004 4:13:24 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: kattracks
I want to see an ad with a thousand police, firemen,relatives of victims of 911 supporting Bush and calling Kerry's complaints disgusting and shaming the firefighters' union.
14 posted on 03/04/2004 4:14:45 PM PST by Mark (Treason doth never prosper, for if it prosper, NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON.)
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To: kattracks
Bush just BREATHING angers Colleen I'm sure.

Hey B*TCH....men have DIED to avenge your brother's death...Perfect STRANGERS have DIED so that wouldn't happen to anyone else in your family...B8TCH! I am sick of these professional Democrat victims that Bush has tried to help...he gave them our HARD-EARNED MONEY also!!!

I apoligize in advance.

15 posted on 03/04/2004 4:15:40 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: kattracks
I am amazed by this. After all the money and support (emotional and otherwise) that has been given to these families-- the way that some are acting so nakedly partisan and petty is sad.

We didn't give the people of OKC anything and they have never behaved in this manner. It's a real shame how some 9-11 families are behaving.
16 posted on 03/04/2004 4:16:28 PM PST by faithincowboys ( Zell Miller is the only DC Democrat not committing treason.)
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To: Libloather
Harold Schaitberger, the firefighter union's president

uh oh:

Check this out!

17 posted on 03/04/2004 4:16:39 PM PST by Howlin (Just another unrepentant Bush supporter.)
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To: Mike Darancette; Phantom Lord; mykdsmom; NCjim; jern; Helms; TC Rider
Cary, North Carolina?????

Ha! Down here, we refer to Cary as

Containment
Area (for)
Relocated
Yankees!
18 posted on 03/04/2004 4:20:58 PM PST by Howlin (Just another unrepentant Bush supporter.)
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To: kattracks
Nobody should be surprised that there are some liberal Bush haters among the relatives of some 9-11 victims, and they will blast Bush no matter what he does.

The fact remains that 9-11 and the war on terrorism are enormously important issues to ALL Americans and must be considered in this election.

The Dems are really upset about this because they know that national security is Bush's strong point and it is their weak point.

They might even remember that after 9-11 many Dems openly admitted they were glad Bush was in the White House. Including my very liberal Dem mother!

19 posted on 03/04/2004 4:22:14 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity; kattracks
I'm also sorry for their loss, but I saw the ad this morning, it's very well done. Also I heard three of them bitching about it on the radio coming home from work.

Good Lord, 5 seconds of a picture of the WTC and an flag. Give me a break!!
20 posted on 03/04/2004 4:24:26 PM PST by Springman
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To: Mike Darancette
Peacful Tomorrow's Valentine's Day letter to the President. They want the War on terorer Stopped!"

February 14, 2004

Dear President Bush,

Two years ago today, family members of 9/11 victims lost at the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and on Flight 93 launched a group called September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows. We chose Valentine's Day as a symbolic reminder that the American ideals of peace, justice and reconciliation remain vibrant, and did not die with our loved ones.

On that day, we held up a large heart containing a valentine letter to you. In the letter we asked to meet with you to discuss the creation of a fund to assist innocent victims of war in Afghanistan. We felt that it was not only a decent and moral response to those accidental deaths, but also a practical opportunity to demonstrate the same compassion that 9/11 family members received from all over the globe.

You chose not to meet with us, but since that day two years ago, the members of Peaceful Tomorrows have worked to display the best of America's ideals to the rest of the world. We secured congressional funding to assist Afghan civilians affected by the war. We connected with others around the world who have been similarly affected by terrorism and war. We stood with millions across the globe against the war in Iraq and for the cause of peace. And our group has grown as more 9/11 family members have found healing by turning their grief into action for peace. In contrast, you declared it was an "us versus them" world, and pursued unilateral and unpopular policies that turned that world against the United States and made us less secure. And worst of all, you often used the deaths of our family members as an excuse to pursue that agenda.

Two years later, we ask you to stop exploiting the tragedy of September 11 for political gain and to join us in responding to that tragic day in a manner that brings about genuine healing and peace for Americans and the rest of the world.

We respectfully request a written response to the following questions:

1. You and members of your administration consistently invoked 9/11 as a justification for war in Iraq, without presenting any evidence of a link between Saddam Hussein's Iraq and the attacks of that day. The confusing and misleading statements made by your administration that allude to an unproven link have caused a majority of the US public, (up to 70% according to a Washington Post poll taken in September 2003) to believe that Saddam Hussein was responsible for September 11.You have exploited the American public's genuine fear of another September 11 to pursue an unrelated war, which has already cost the lives of more than 500 US service people and an estimated 10,000 Iraqi civilians. We call upon you today to publicly acknowledge that your administration's statements have misled the American people, and to clarify that there is no evidence of a connection between the events of 9/11 and Saddam Hussein's Iraq. Please, Mr. President, will you correct this dangerous misperception?

2. In light of your announcement that the United States plans to step up the campaign to find Osama Bin Laden in Afghanistan, we ask that you cease the tactic of bombing villages in an attempt to kill Bin Laden or other suspected Al Qaeda or Taliban leaders. In the past two years these village bombings have killed and injured countless innocent civilians, including children, while failing to achieve their stated aim. Since the beginning of 2003, media reports confirm that more than 64 civilians have been killed in at least six separate incidents of village bombings. Meanwhile, most top Taliban and Al Qaeda leaders have been captured through international cooperation, intelligence sharing, and police work, not the bombing of villagers. No one desires Bin Laden to be arrested and stand trial more than we do. Yet through continued bombing of innocent civilians, you have increased anti-American sentiment and created legions of potential future terrorists. We beg you, Mr. President, will you direct the military to cease the tactic of bombing villages in Afghanistan, and choose more effective methods to capture the criminals responsible for our loved ones deaths?

3. We ask you to stop playing politics with the 9/11 attacks. September 11 was many things, but it was a victory for no one but the terrorists. When your administration treats it like a success story and your political party uses the World Trade Center site as the backdrop for the Republican convention this fall, we are offended. We have witnessed the photograph of you on the telephone on September 11 sold by your campaign as a fundraising vehicle. We have read Republican party officials' acknowledgement that the national convention was planned in New York City at the latest possible date in order to "flow seamlessly into the commemoration of 9/11." And we have witnessed your administration's lack of cooperation with the Independent Commission investigating 9/11. On November 27, 2002, you stated, "the investigation should carefully examine all the evidence and follow all the facts, wherever they lead. We must uncover every detail and learn every lesson of September the 11th...It's our most solemn duty." We ask you today live up to that promise. As president of the United States, you well know that our nation's future is more important than any one person's political career. We ask you, Mr. President, will you renounce the exploitation of September 11th for partisan political gain?

You claim that September 11th made you a war president. But this is not true. By responding to the terrorism of 9/11 with an unending "war on terror," and a doctrine of pre-emptive war, you and your administration chose this path. After September 11, the entire world reached out to the United States with compassion. Rather than building on that good will and ushering the world into a new era of mutual cooperation, an effort that would have required true statesmanship and a willingness to deal honestly with the root causes of terrorism, you appealed to our fears and to the worst in human kind. Your domestic and foreign policies have reduced our nation's leadership, leaving us less secure, less free, less respected and less able to deal effectively with the genuine threat of 21st century terrorism.

This Valentine's Day, two years after the creation of September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows, we call on you to open your heart, take accountability for your actions, and act now to set our nation on the path of real peace. This is the way to truly honor those who died on September 11 and who continue to live in our hearts. We look forward to your timely answers to our inquiries.

Sincerely,

September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows
21 posted on 03/04/2004 4:25:19 PM PST by Mike Darancette (General - Alien Army of the Right (AAOTR))
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To: kattracks
The problem I have with these 9-11 family groups is that they act as though 9-11 happened only to them...it was an attack on our nation, not just their families. I'm truly sorry for their loss, but we were all affected by 9-11 and President Bush is ABSOLUTELY justified in using that footage. I love the ad and he should play it for two week s now, do anther rotation this summer and another beefore the election.
22 posted on 03/04/2004 4:26:37 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: Howlin
Mr. Schaitberger endorsed John FKerry back in September of 2003. Now we're supposed to find it shocking and newsworthy that he is among the 'upset' about President Bush's TV ads? Give me a break! Why don't they just interview random members of the Kerry campaign, at least that would be somewhat more honest.
23 posted on 03/04/2004 4:28:15 PM PST by SelmaLee (Bush/Cheney-04)
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To: My2Cents
No need for AP to report on Nam vets angry about the Kerry jerk, no need here.

AP Socialist Jerks.
24 posted on 03/04/2004 4:29:37 PM PST by observer5
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To: kattracks

Kristen Breitweiser, of Middletown Township, N.J., whose husband, Ronald Breitweiser, died in the World Trade Center, said Bush should not use the tragedy as "political propaganda."

"Three thousand people were murdered on President Bush's watch," Breitweiser said. "He has not cooperated with the investigation to find out why that happened," a reference to the effort the Bush administration has made in working with the Sept. 11 commission investigating the intelligence failures.

That's a bald faced lie from an ungrateful b*tch!

25 posted on 03/04/2004 4:29:39 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: kattracks

26 posted on 03/04/2004 4:29:56 PM PST by jaz.357 (Liberals fund the problems they seek to solve so that they can justify taxing you to fund them.)
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To: kattracks
Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., who lost 700 constituents in the attacks, sent a letter to Bush, asking him to pull the ads.

Frank luatenberg, who shouldn't even be a Senator, dares to open his pie-hole and pass judgement on a President who inherited this crap from a lying, pass the buck ba**ard, who never met a situation he couldn't exploit, ignore, or blame on someone else? Excuse me, I have officially had enough. This is just the most disgusting political ploy of desperate democrats I have seen to date. Pathetic POS. All of them.

27 posted on 03/04/2004 4:31:00 PM PST by small voice in the wilderness (1)
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To: My2Cents
"Isn't this what John Kerry is doing, dancing on the graves of those who fought and died in Vietnam, trying to make his service there a political plus?"

Your statement underwhelms me!

Additionally, john kerry actually danced a jig on the living bodies of those serving in Vietnam. And to this date continues to desecrate the Vets by posturing as a glorified hero!

28 posted on 03/04/2004 4:31:00 PM PST by Dacus943
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To: kattracks
It makes me sick. The same old 9/11 activists banging the drum, and union hacks for Kerry.

Does it bother anyone else that the firefighters are:
a: Unionized?
b: supporting Kerry?

We were in the UK, back in November of '02 when their fire brigades went on strike and locked down their equipment. Military forces with antiquated equipment were on call for fire duty. Is this what we have to expect?
29 posted on 03/04/2004 4:31:15 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I'm glad to see your post...I posted pretty much the same thought and was a little worried that I would be the only one here sick and tired of their damned belly aching.
30 posted on 03/04/2004 4:31:23 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: Ann Archy
I apoligize in advance.

no need!

31 posted on 03/04/2004 4:32:46 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: Jorge
This is ochestrated, When 3,000 people die, its easy to find relatives to state just about any point of view you like. There must be tens of thousands of relatives.
The interesting thing about this anti-Bush 9-11 campaign is the effort to head off reference to 9-11 by Bush. The D's fear the memory of 9-11, they want amnesia.
Rove should be giving it to them, both barrels. This will be the nastiest campaign in modern history. The D's will stop at nothing, violate election laws, put Amertican lifes in danger. They are united and willing to do anything to return to power.
Fortunately we have a President who is going to fight. I think Dick Morris is right, Bush should go for the juglar right now.
32 posted on 03/04/2004 4:34:42 PM PST by don'tbedenied
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To: kattracks
Why We Fight!


33 posted on 03/04/2004 4:34:42 PM PST by jaz.357 (Liberals fund the problems they seek to solve so that they can justify taxing you to fund them.)
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To: kattracks
Just ask their political affiliation... bet you none that complain are republicans... bet me...
34 posted on 03/04/2004 4:34:48 PM PST by Godfollow
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To: Godfollow
Is that a Democrat Fireman on the left and a Republican Fireman on the right?

..IM not sure....Should we ask the Union?

35 posted on 03/04/2004 4:43:39 PM PST by jaz.357 (Liberals fund the problems they seek to solve so that they can justify taxing you to fund them.)
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To: kattracks
This from an earlier story, one family member criticizing Bush for using 9/11 images.... it shows how warped these people really are.



"I would vote for Saddam Hussein before I would vote for Bush."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1090784/posts

36 posted on 03/04/2004 4:45:21 PM PST by Tamzee (The Democrat Party...... Kerrying water for Communism since 1971)
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To: kattracks
I've already posted my opinion on this, but the more I think about this situation, the more pissed I get. Just WHAT kind of Bush election ad would be agreeable to dems.? They don't want him in Air Force 1 on 9/11. They don't want him on the aircraft carrier. They don't want him refering to 9/11 victims. They don't want him proving his National Guard time. Let's see, what does that leave for him? Waking up, eating lunch, going to bed. Well forget about it, he's not turning over. This playing ground is as level as it's gonna get. Get used to it. You fools chose kerry. Live with it. Just STFU and give it your best shot.
37 posted on 03/04/2004 4:45:27 PM PST by small voice in the wilderness (1)
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To: kattracks
This revised article is even more disingenuous than the first since it pretends to give a balanced story.

And plus, they had to go all the way to FL to find a firefighters union that endorses Kerry?

This is article is shameless and disgusting.

38 posted on 03/04/2004 4:53:06 PM PST by scoopscandal
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To: kattracks
"It makes me sick," said Colleen Kelly. ...."Would you ever go to someone's grave site and use that as an instrument of politics? That truly is what Ground Zero represents to me."

Gee, I wonder if this woman would be similarly offended if Kerry used the exact same WTC photos in one of his ads?

I doubt it.

39 posted on 03/04/2004 4:56:46 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: All
These yaps are on orielly now!!
40 posted on 03/04/2004 5:04:32 PM PST by mylife
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To: kattracks
....tis funny as I get older I seem to dis remember things.I guess Bill Clinton didn't go to Oklahoma City and hug people in front of a fawning press? He also did not go to Normandy and straighten flags in a cemetery of fallen silent GIs. Every time I see a "NEVER AGAIN" Poster in mememry of holocaust victims,ones showing the skeletal walking dead, I guess the victims have given permission from the grave and all survivors have signed off?..

Obviously this is a sad sad attempt to deny anyone the "right" to speak up about the war on terror since the left is so profoundly against your national saftey. Where was the U.N. when the French bailed in Rwanda?...NOTE to the Black Caucus, when you investigate Bush for Haiti lets not forget Billy did nothing when one million Rwandans died by machete. That's the same Billy that installed "Blinky "Aristede, the two cases are therefore intertwined.

41 posted on 03/04/2004 5:05:32 PM PST by Grendelgrey (....nay, we are but men..........Rock!)
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To: kattracks
Liberal Stalinists only squeel like pigs when their being hoisted on a political petard.

Hit them harder.

42 posted on 03/04/2004 5:08:37 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: Reactionary
Make that "they're."
43 posted on 03/04/2004 5:08:54 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: kattracks
This may get a lot of people upset, but I've been saying for some time now that by the time this is all over we're going to wish those 3,000 people were still alive and many of their family members were in those buildings instead.

New Yorkers always have a way of pointing out to us that the city is filled with professional malcontents.

44 posted on 03/04/2004 5:09:36 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Alberta -- the TRUE North strong and free.)
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To: Howlin
Just clicked on the 'endorsements' section of your link and found - Honorable Henry Cisneros.

Should one really still be considered honorable - even after the conviction?

45 posted on 03/04/2004 5:11:56 PM PST by Libloather (Charter member - VRWC - # EIB-04151982)
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To: kattracks
My reply to those democrat stooges:

The nation needs to be reminded international terrorism is a war. President Bush is the only candidate who is treating the subject as if it were truly a war. John 'Gigolo' Kerry is trying to treat terrorism as a law-enforcement problem. What does Kerry plan to do about state-sponsored terrorism? Send the local police over to Afghanistan and Iraq and arrest the terrorists? President Bush is sending the Navy, Marines, Army and Air Force to kill the terrorists.
46 posted on 03/04/2004 5:12:18 PM PST by punster
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To: kattracks
I've seen the commercials, and as a 9/11 survivor who lost friends and neighbors that awful morning, those images do make me a little uncomfortable. However, I realize that 9/11 was the "defining moment" of Bush's presidency thus far (and probably of his life), and he can't campaign for re-election without talking about how he, as President, dealt with that day and everything since.
47 posted on 03/04/2004 5:13:45 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: jaz.357
The History Channel aired a special on the WTC construction last night. Pretty amazing that they stood for awhile, even after being blasted by thousands of gallons of jet fuel...
48 posted on 03/04/2004 5:15:44 PM PST by Libloather (Charter member - VRWC - # EIB-04151982)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I'm just about sick of the 9/11 families pissing and moaning about everything.

Actually, the ones bitching and moaning are a distinct, but vocal, minority.

49 posted on 03/04/2004 5:16:43 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: Reactionary
The libs must think these ads will be very beneficial to Bush otherwise they wouldn't be peeing in their panties.
50 posted on 03/04/2004 5:18:36 PM PST by Earl
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