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Ya Gotta love it! (Hillary the Outsourcer)
JOB DESTRUCTION NEWSLETTER ^ | 03/05/2004 | Rob Sanchez

Posted on 03/05/2004 7:45:06 AM PST by Keen-Minded

Here's an excerpt from a newsletter I get indicating how Hillary Clinton took the bait that Lou Dobbs set for her and hit her between the eyes. She was on CNN decrying the companies who outsourced jobs to cheap foreign labor and telling all of the things she was doing to stop it and create jobs here.

Then Lou hit her with the fact that she helped TATA consulting set up offices here to OUTSOURCE American jobs. She responded with " but they created 10 jobs in the buffalo area. What she didn't mention was that of those, 70% are H1B's, here to solicit work for India.

What troubles me is the fact that our government, both state and federal has huge deficits, people are losing everything and our elected officials are still advocating H1B and L1 use where many are paying NO federal taxes and advocating illegal aliens who in many cases also are paying no state or federal taxes.

JOB DESTRUCTION NEWSLETTER
by Rob Sanchez
www.ZaZona.com

Senator Hillary Clinton went on Lou Dobbs yesterday to talk about her concerns on the outsourcing issue. Hillary didn't know that Lou Dobbs set her up with a trap - and Hillary took the bait. In order to understand why Hillary was so vulnerable to Dobb's setup, please go to the archive, scroll near the bottom, and read "Buffaloed by Hillary" Parts 1-4.

http://www.zazona.com/shameh1b/JobDestructionNews.htm

Dr. Norman Matloff a similar series during that time period that are also worth reading. Here are the links:
http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/Archive/Hillary3.txt http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/Archive/Hillary2.txt http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/Archive/Hillary.txt

For quick reference, here are some of the sordid connections between TATA and the Clintons:

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton gave a welcoming party and the red carpet treatment for the Indian owned bodyshop TATA and it's CEO Subramaniam Ramadorai. The celebration - TATA was setting up an office in Buffalo. TATA's website praised Clinton's sellout of principle by saying, "The deal was the brainchild of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY)".

Vinod Gupta, the president of TATA, admitted that 70% of the work will be sent offshore and only 30% will be done in the United States. Gupta says that half his employees are Indians on work visas, and that was good enough for Hillary! Gupta not only got a call from the Clintons for a dinner banquet during Prime Minister Vajpayee's visit, but he also got a sleepover at the White House. Gupta gave $2,000 to Ms. Clinton to support her campaign and more than $100,000 to the Democratic National Committee.

Here is a list of Indian-owned bodyshops that Hillary invited to New York:

NIIT www.niit.com/
ITC www.itcinfotech.com/
Tata (TCS) www.tata.com/
Mindtree www.mindtree.com/

Ashok Soota, founder of Mindtree, is offered Hillary a nice prize for selling out - an expense paid junket to India for all of her business buddies. Hillary hosted a tea party for the Confederation of Indian Industry (CII). www.ciionline.org/

Lou Dobbs show analysis 5 Steps Used to Trap Hillary Clinton :

Step 1: Baiting Clinton: Lou Dobbs allows Clinton to blather about how she wants to protect jobs. She even pretends to be compassionate and caring. CLINTON: Getting our trade system right, you know, I was very disappointed when the current administration moved away from the Jordan free trade agreement, which began to try to put into place higher labor and environmental standards so it wasn't a race to the bottom. We also need to be looking at the fair treatment of our workers, and that's a big problem for us in Upstate New York, because we've lost so many manufacturing jobs and now we're losing service jobs. And we're not giving people the support they need to find their way back into the job market. But at the same time, we've got to have the jobs for them to be able to take.

Step 2: Setting-up Clinton. Ouch! That must a hurt, especially after she just got finished saying how she was going to save manufacturing jobs. DOBBS: I think we're all with you on that part. I would just like to point out, however, that free trade didn't begin with this administration. Your husband's administration was a leading proponent and a rather effective advocate of that, including the onset of NAFTA, of course.

Step 3 - Dropping the Bomb on Clinton. Dobbs asks her about her cozy relationship with TATA. All of you that are emailing Dobbs should get credit for this one! DOBBS: Amongst the number of things, when we said you were going to be our guest here, Senator, a number of people pointed out to us, e- mailing us and calling us, saying, ask the senator about her helping Tata Consulting, a well-known outsourcer, open jobs -- and office in Buffalo, New York. I'm asking you, did you really understand the degree to which they were involved in outsourcing jobs when you were there?

Step 4: Allow for Clinton's Damage Control Clinton's attempt at damage control was pathetic. She sounds like she was coached by Harris Miller. Hillary brags that TATA created ten jobs in Buffalo. She is probably talking about ten token American citizens that TATA hired because you can bet TATA brought a whole lot more than 10 Indians on visa into New York. CLINTON: Well, of course I know that they outsource jobs, that they've actually brought jobs to Buffalo. They've created 10 jobs in Buffalo and have told me and the Buffalo community that they intend to be a source of new jobs in the area, because, you know, outsourcing does work both ways. You know, we cannot close our borders. We have to be smarter about competing. We have, more enforceable trade agreements. But we also have to attract jobs from around the world. And you know, we are still the biggest market with the greatest potential for growth for businesses from literally every corner of the world.

Step 5: Allow Clinton to dig herself deeper into the hole. First she criticizes Bush for allowing outsourcing, and then describes why outsourcing can't be stopped. Did I miss something here, dear Hillary, or do you and Bush agree that American job destruction must continue? Clinton demonstrated her socialist ideology and her contempt for the "public sector" when she said that outsourcing isn't an issue that they should be concerned about. Apparently she only cares if government employees lose jobs. Clinton probably forgot Dobbs question because she had a freudian slip - she defended TATA's right to import H-1Bs and L-1s by declaring that we can't "close our borders". It's also very noticeable that she only talked about manufacturing jobs - not the tech jobs that she has helped to destroy in New York. CLINTON: I look forward to supporting him [John Kerry] in any way that he requests, because I think that we are going to provide an alternative, just as we are today on the Senate floor providing an alternative to the lack of economic policies by this administration and really the celebration of outsourcing. You know, we're not going to stop all outsourcing. I'm not in favor of putting up fences around our country. I think what I want is to address the challenge we face and make sure that we are equipped to provide the incentives both to our workers and to our employers. And Lou, let me say one other thing, because this is not just an issue for the public sector. I think that private sector leadership the rule of law that we support, everything that is great about living in America. And I think, frankly, that they need to be more responsible in how they view their obligations to this country.

(Excerpt) Read more at ZaZona.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; dobbs; h1b; hillary; india; jobs; l1; outsource; outsourcing

1 posted on 03/05/2004 7:45:08 AM PST by Keen-Minded
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To: Keen-Minded
For months I have posted the fact that Hillary brought TCS to Buffalo, and therefore she would have no credibility if she ran against outsourcing. Most people thought the press would cover this up for her, but it appears she won't be able to do it. Hillary has just toasted her political career.
2 posted on 03/05/2004 7:47:27 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Keen-Minded
they created 10 jobs in the buffalo area

WOW!!!!!I'm gonna run right over and join in thge line of 2500 people that were in line for Geico's 50 job openings.

This evil witch has done NOTHING! Nothing but go to fundraisers and stand up for the money for homeland security, she claims that the $$ aren't reaching the places it's suppose to go.
Everyone involved are still trying to figure out what she is talking about.

I seriously think she is extremely mentally handicapped or in short a freaken retard!

3 posted on 03/05/2004 7:51:59 AM PST by The Mayor (There is no such thing as insignificant service for Christ.)
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To: dfwgator
We can only hope!
4 posted on 03/05/2004 7:52:03 AM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: dfwgator
"Hillary has just toasted her political career."


It couldnt happen soon enough to suit me. But than again, if she ran as VP than the Democraps are TOAST!
5 posted on 03/05/2004 7:52:36 AM PST by stopem
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To: Keen-Minded
CHIDANAND RAJGHATTA, reporter, in the Times of India, said it this way:

"...The New York Senator was ambushed by CNN's Lou Dobbs on his show, a daily outlet for anti-free trade rants..."


[ambushed.....hehehe]
6 posted on 03/05/2004 7:53:34 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy
Related link:

Hillary Clinton stands up for Tatas, outsourcing
7 posted on 03/05/2004 7:55:28 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Euro-American Scum
I think you'll like this. :)
8 posted on 03/05/2004 7:56:55 AM PST by NRA2BFree
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To: dfwgator
Hillary has just toasted her political career.

If only we could be so lucky.

9 posted on 03/05/2004 7:57:23 AM PST by MegaSilver
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To: Keen-Minded
BUMP for later reading.
10 posted on 03/05/2004 7:57:40 AM PST by MegaSilver
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To: stopem
I wish this would toast her, but it won't. We are dreaming if we think it will.
12 posted on 03/05/2004 7:58:31 AM PST by cajungirl (John Kerry has no botox and I have a bridge to sell you!)
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To: TomGuy
I stand up for "Tatas" myself, but then again, I'm a guy.
13 posted on 03/05/2004 7:58:54 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: cajungirl
Dobbs had better stay off the streets for a while. Hire a driver too. A remote starter for the driver's car would be a good idea too. Avoid upscale coffee shops and densely wooded parks. A body double would help as well.
14 posted on 03/05/2004 8:03:08 AM PST by blackdog (I feed the sheep the coyotes eat)
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To: Keen-Minded; Conspiracy Guy
Go Dobbs!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Beatiful hit job....A++

ROTFLMAO!!
15 posted on 03/05/2004 8:04:33 AM PST by international american (FReeper gals breed conservatives.......make more kids, NOW!! Try it it's fun!!)
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To: international american
BURP
16 posted on 03/05/2004 8:07:49 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (The word "Tagline" needs to be added to Free Republic's Spell Check.)
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To: cajungirl
An interesting series of events may be unfolding soon. The Dobbs hit may just be the first of many slap-downs of the Clinton BS.

If Kerry boots McAulliffe from the DNC vault, the sharks will smell Bubba/Shillary blood. The sharks will be the same ones who have been swimming with Hillary all along. They've had that "Just keep swimming" attitude, knowing if they stopped swimming they'd be cast aside or eaten by the rest. Eventually that pack behavior turns on itself.

The next thirty days will either mark the Clintons or coat them in slippery teflon. I'm going for the mark. Eating the Clintons alive on national media shows will redeem the average Democrat, moving them to the middle, and making Kerry a more viable candidate. It will divert attention from the Massachussets Liberal label and make him seem like he's willing to take on tough, moral issues by gutting the Clintons. Sort of a "clean up our own house first" thing. Thus allowing him to do the same to Bush. Right now he can't touch Bush on issues of ethics, morality, integrity, and doing what needs to be done regardless of the pain. If he hangs the Clintons out in the wind, he'll attract a lot of moderates.

17 posted on 03/05/2004 8:18:54 AM PST by blackdog (I feed the sheep the coyotes eat)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
PING for your searing comments.
18 posted on 03/05/2004 8:49:46 AM PST by Sender ("This is the most important election in the history of the world." -DU)
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To: Keen-Minded
From what my relatives in Buffalo tell me, these are the first 10 jobs actually created in Buffalo since 1967.
19 posted on 03/05/2004 8:51:17 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: The Mayor
I seriously think she is extremely mentally handicapped or in short a freaken retard!

All of the above ;-)

20 posted on 03/05/2004 8:57:08 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: NRA2BFree
I think you'll like this. :)

So. . . let me see if I've got this right. If Hillary Clinton advocates offshoring, it's bad. If George W. Bush does it, it's good. Does that about cover it?

21 posted on 03/05/2004 8:58:06 AM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: blackdog
Hope you are right about the Clintons but there is a downside to Kerry getting stronger. Oh the choices we have to make in terms of our wishes!
22 posted on 03/05/2004 9:04:14 AM PST by cajungirl (John Kerry has no botox and I have a bridge to sell you!)
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To: Keen-Minded
Read later.
23 posted on 03/05/2004 9:06:56 AM PST by EagleMamaMT
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To: The Mayor
Thank you..at last someone besides me thinks that Hellery is a blithering idiot. Read and listen to her speeches...she talks beautifuly delivered jibberish!
24 posted on 03/05/2004 9:13:42 AM PST by estpeter (I HATE taglines.)
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To: Keen-Minded
BTTT !!
25 posted on 03/05/2004 9:36:13 AM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: Keen-Minded
This was a well orchestrated interview by the master Lou Dobbs. Kudos to him and his research and never ending pursuit of justice and the AMERICAN way !!! It is refreshing to know that he will NOT give up. The Hildabeast now is on the defensive thanks to her quick reply. You could not have caught a mouse in a trap any better than this !!
26 posted on 03/05/2004 10:03:09 AM PST by humptydumpty (Humpty)
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To: dfwgator
Well .. how about adding another little nail to Hillary's coffin .. it seems that the CLINTON LIBRARY is OUTSOURCING the building of cabinets for the new Clinton Library to a company in SCOTLAND!!

Since my heritage is Scottish, I'm not against them, but I find it hysterical that Hillary is out there talking about Bush doing all the outsourcing, and Hillary's doing it herself.
27 posted on 03/05/2004 11:02:39 AM PST by The Final Harvest (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: Keen-Minded
I used to work for Vinod Gupta, who is mentioned prominently in this story.

He is a slimeball sleazebag of the first order, just speaking from personal experience.
28 posted on 03/05/2004 1:55:29 PM PST by LeftiesBinWhinin (Liberals: The boil in the butt crack of life)
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