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Interview Jim Caviezel - Tonight - at 8pm on EWTN
EWTN ^ | March 5, 2004

Posted on 03/05/2004 10:53:18 AM PST by NYer

The World Over with Raymond Arroyo

March 5
Jim Caviezel talks about the number one movie in America: "The Passion of the Christ

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TOPICS: Announcements; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: caviezel; christianmedia; ewtn; interview; passion

1 posted on 03/05/2004 10:53:18 AM PST by NYer
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To: american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; CAtholic Family Association; narses; ...

Catholic Ping - let me know if you want on/off this list


2 posted on 03/05/2004 10:54:25 AM PST by NYer (Ad Jesum per Mariam)
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To: NYer
I saw the interview he did on EWTN last year when he was filming and it was incredible. He is a very humble individual. And in his profession, that's a welcome quality! I pray for him.
3 posted on 03/05/2004 10:56:22 AM PST by CWW (Go Bill Pryor!!!)
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To: LisaMalia
"Passion Of The Christ" ping!
4 posted on 03/05/2004 3:52:03 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: CWW
From what I've heard of Raymond Orroyo when he was interviewed for comments about the movie itself, he said that he had the pleasure of going to Italy and sitting behind the scenes next to Mel Gibson watching the filming of the movie. I'm certain this interview will be fun to watch.

I'm not even a Catholic and I plan to watch this.

5 posted on 03/05/2004 3:54:20 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: NYer
Thanks!
6 posted on 03/05/2004 3:59:26 PM PST by BlueAngel
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To: NYer
Great interview! Look for it to be repeated. The TV schedule is available on the EWTN website
7 posted on 03/05/2004 6:28:03 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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The show is called "The World Over Live."
8 posted on 03/05/2004 6:28:41 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan
How about this tidbit that came out in the interview.

One of the e-mails during the Q&A section of the show. There was an email in regard to last night's Hardball, they had on a Bishop who called The Passion, pornographic and said that in the movie Jesus never said, Father forgive them for they know not what they do.

The response was really quite interesting. First Raymond Arroyo, commented that the same bishop has written several novel, that are rather pornographic in nature. As to the lines spoken in the movie. Jim Caviezel was somewhat taken aback, saying he does not know where the Bishop was but Father forgive them, was actually used three times during the movie. Once while being nailed to the cross, another time on the cross, he did not mention the third place it was used.

9 posted on 03/05/2004 6:34:15 PM PST by mware
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To: CWW
Yeah--a good guy.

And he blew Leno right into the next county with his offhanded response to Leno's question: "SOOOOO, you get the part of Jesus. And just how did you prepare for, ah, this, ah....????"

Caviezel: "Well, I went home and practiced walking across my pool twice a day."

Deadpan delivery. Leno was smacked up, and he knew it.

Good guy, yea.
10 posted on 03/05/2004 6:36:36 PM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: NYer
Bump!

Also, check out the Catholic League's web site (www.catholicleague.org). There's an excellent paragraph or two, whaling on the critics. First the critics said the movie was anti-Semitic. Then, when everybody started going to actually SEE the movie, they could no longer get away with THAT lie. So they immediately wheeled out lie #2, that the violence was actually pornographic.

Man, what the pointy-heads won't do in their desperation in getting somebody - anybody - to take them seriously.
11 posted on 03/05/2004 6:41:33 PM PST by Gang of Five
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To: mware
There was an email in regard to last night's Hardball, they had on a Bishop who called The Passion, pornographic and said that in the movie Jesus never said, Father forgive them for they know not what they do.

That was NO bishop ;-D The person Raymond Arroyo was referring to is Fr. Andrew Greeley, a very 'controversial' Catholic priest who has authored some risque books. He is a member of the more radical, liberal element of the Catholic Church who would like nothing better than to see the church change its stance on female ordination, abortion, contraception, and gay marriage. Since that will NEVER happen, he then becomes a good friend to the liberal media who project his views as being those of the Catholic Church. Hence, Raymond Arroyo's reaction to the question.

12 posted on 03/05/2004 6:45:34 PM PST by NYer (Ad Jesum per Mariam)
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To: NYer
Well thank God that he is not a Bishop. Sorry for the error and ^5's to Raymond for mentioning the part about his novels.
13 posted on 03/05/2004 6:48:39 PM PST by mware
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To: mware
One of the e-mails during the Q&A section of the show. There was an email in regard to last night's Hardball, they had on a Bishop who called The Passion, pornographic and said that in the movie Jesus never said, Father forgive them for they know not what they do. The response was really quite interesting. First Raymond Arroyo, commented that the same bishop has written several novel, that are rather pornographic in nature. As to the lines spoken in the movie. Jim Caviezel was somewhat taken aback, saying he does not know where the Bishop was but Father forgive them, was actually used three times during the movie. Once while being nailed to the cross, another time on the cross, he did not mention the third place it was used.

That's criminal. I'm beginning to understand the actions of the USCCB a bit more. Did anyone catch the bishop's name?

14 posted on 03/05/2004 7:05:46 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: mware
Nevermind. I read NYer's reply. Fr. Greeley. Ew.
15 posted on 03/05/2004 7:07:25 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan
Wasn't Greely fired from Notre Dame some years ago?
16 posted on 03/05/2004 7:19:34 PM PST by Dante3
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To: ninenot
Leno was smacked up, and he knew it.

Great story! Thanks for sharing it.

17 posted on 03/05/2004 7:32:55 PM PST by NYer (Ad Jesum per Mariam)
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To: Gang of Five; mware; ninenot; johnb2004
There's an excellent paragraph or two, whaling on the critics.

Thanks for the link! You must be referring to this ...

March 5, 2004       

  

CRITICS SEE PORN AND S&M IN “THE PASSION”

 

The following quotes are from the critics of “The Passion of the Christ”:

 

—Rev. Andrew Greeley calls it “sadomasochistic and pornographic.”

—Christopher Hitchens dubs it “an exercise in lurid sadomasochism.”

—Ex-priest John Dominic Crossan labels it “pornographic.”

—David Edelstein of Slate finds it an “exercise in sadomasochism.’

—Rabbi James Rudin brands it “a sadomasochistic film.”

—David Denby of The New Yorker opines “It’s extremely sadistic.”

—Jonathan Foreman of the New York Post says it’s “pornographic.”

—A.O. Scott of the New York Times sees it as “high-minded sadomasochism.”

—Andrew Sullivan was shocked to find it “pornographic.”

—Rev. Michael Coffey, a Lutheran minister, says it’s “pornographic.”

—David Ansen of Newsweek screams “It’s the sadism” that’s troubling.

—Jamie Bernard of the Daily News notes it “would horrify the regulars at an S&M club.”

—Ex-priest James Carroll sees the film as nothing but “pornographic.”

—Leon Wieseltier of the New Republic dubs it “a repulsive masochistic fantasy, a sacred snuff film.”

—Harvard professor Daniel Jonah Goldhagen was aghast at the “sadomasochistic, orgiastic display” and its “unremitting sadism.”

—Charles Krauthammer of the Washington Post calls it “the most unremitting sadism in the history of film.”

—Bill Safire in the New York Times complains of its “sustained sadism.”

—Al Neuharth of USA TODAY calls it a “wasted exercise in sadomasochism.”

 

Catholic League president William Donohue responds as follows:

 

“Christians need to take note of this mental goose-stepping, but they should also note that none of these savants found ‘Schindler’s List’ to be pornographic. What they find pornographic is the scourging and crucifixion of Jesus Christ.  No doubt for some of them, the New Testament classifies as pornography as well.  Indeed that is exactly what a Brooklyn rabbi told me to my face.  At least now it’s out in the open.”


18 posted on 03/05/2004 7:39:54 PM PST by NYer (Ad Jesum per Mariam)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Thanks for the ping.
I just got home from work, so I missed it. Maybe they'll replay it.
19 posted on 03/05/2004 11:28:48 PM PST by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W. Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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To: Gang of Five
Some time ago, I became pissed off at the Catholic Church I was attending. So I went elsewhere. I went to the San Fernando Mission for a service. The Priest was also a Monk who raised Hell during his Sermon. Studious as he was, people actually clapped when he got down to the basics of our existence and description of normal life. He had to move on up the coast to other missions as a Monk. That's where I go to Church now. 150 year-old pews and all.
20 posted on 03/05/2004 11:48:39 PM PST by BobS
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To: NYer
Hitchens also said it was "homo-erotic".
21 posted on 03/05/2004 11:58:13 PM PST by Deb (My Tag Skies to Gotham & Con-Fabs With Net Prexies)
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To: BobS
Studious as he was, people actually clapped when he got down to the basics of our existence and description of normal life. He had to move on up the coast to other missions as a Monk. That's where I go to Church now. 150 year-old pews and all.

The simple truth as you have so well described it, is that most people want to know how to save their immortal souls, rather than a sanctioning for their sins. Here in Albany, an extremely liberal diocese, many catholics have abandoned the church. Without 'food', their souls have slipped into a limbo of despair. In the 11 years since arriving here, I have switched parishes twice. At the most recent parish, I have had to battle liturgical abuses with the pastor. Once again, I am off in search of a parish where truth is preached from the pulpit and reverence is shown for the Eucharist. Hang in there, things will get worse before they get better ... and history teaches us that it will get better.

22 posted on 03/06/2004 1:13:26 AM PST by NYer (Ad Jesum per Mariam)
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To: NYer
—Rev. Andrew Greeley calls it “sadomasochistic and pornographic.”

I am sending an email to Hardball this morning. He stated on the show that the line, "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do" " was not in the movie. Jim Caviezel did an interview for World Over Live last night and when questioned about it was stunned. Paraphrasing Mr. Caviezel, he said, I don't know where the Father was during the movie but that is one of the few dialogs we repeated 3 times in the movie. Two of the times was when he was being nailed to the cross and another time on the cross.

23 posted on 03/06/2004 6:28:37 AM PST by mware
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To: NYer
ABC is showing today at 8 "Frequency" with Jim Caviezel.
24 posted on 03/06/2004 6:49:57 AM PST by Dante3
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To: LisaMalia

Maybe they'll replay it.

Repeat of interview on EWTN

Sunday at 5pm ET
-- Monday at 10am ET
-- Monday at 11 pm ET

25 posted on 03/06/2004 7:25:19 AM PST by NYer (Ad Jesum per Mariam)
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To: NYer
What they find pornographic is the scourging and crucifixion of Jesus Christ.

Sick puppies, all of them, in their perverted perceptions.

Perhaps it's "the other realm" working through them, as Mel might put it.

Nothing else to do but pray for them.

26 posted on 03/06/2004 7:31:51 AM PST by kstewskis ( "The Passion of The Christ" is here....and no I'm NOT giving up Mel for Lent!!)
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To: NYer
Sunday at 5pm ET -- Monday at 10am ET -- Monday at 11 pm ET

Thank you so much for the info! I'll be watching.

27 posted on 03/06/2004 7:46:43 AM PST by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W. Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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