The 'Offended' 911 Group “Peaceful Tomorrows” is funded largely by Teresa Heinz

various sources, mostly Tom Randall of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review | 3/5/04

[dead]

“Peaceful Tomorrows” is being portrayed as an independent group of relatives of victims of the 911 attacks. They are getting a lot of press claiming to be outraged over the new Bush ads.

Call me insensitive if you like, but I wonder if this outrage could possibly be a tad overblown, and more likely attributable to the millions and millions of dollars this group has received from endowments chaired by Teresa Heinz, wife of Democratic Presidential candidate John Kerry.

According to their own contribution page, “Peaceful Tomorrows is a project of the Tides Center, a 501(c)3 non-profit organization.”

According to an article in the Pittsburgh Review, “Between 1995 and 2001, $4.3 million of that money came from the Howard Heinz Endowment. In 2002, it and the Vira Heinz Endowment blessed The Tides Center, a San Francisco spin-off of the Tides Foundation, with another $190,000 while the two endowments gave $1.6 million to the new Tides Center for Western Pennsylvania.” (The Heinz Endowments have teamed up with a secretive left-wing group)

The money that flows into The Tides also flows out. They have given grants totaling $489,000 to the Iraq Peace Fund, who used that money to fund the anti-war marches and media costs of 27 groups, including MoveOn.org, whose purpose is to defeat George W. Bush.

Other Tides Center projects include The Youth Gender Project, which seeks to "empower and support transgender, gender-variant, intersexed and gender-questioning youth and young adults."

They also shoveled $200,000 towards The Ruckus Society - founded in 1995 to train activists in violent protest against biotechnology, globalization and the World Bank. It incited property destruction in the Seattle riots of 1999 and Washington, D.C., the following year.

Now, if you really want to get mad, you should also know that $8,000,000 in taxpayer money flowed into the Tides Center in the form of federal grants made by eight different agencies between 1997 and 2001.

[Diogenesis]

The Evil Clowns Behind “Peaceful Tomorrows", a project of the Tides Center", a 501(c)3 non-profit organization.

[FreedomPoster]

Bravo, sir.

Freepers - Do not hold your breath waiting for this to be reported by Perky Katie, Dan, or Petah.

[BJClinton]

Kudos, dead.

[maxwellp]

I hope Rush Limbaugh picks it up! The liberal media won't touch it.

[clintonh8r]

Nice catch! But.....Hell, the Republicans will barely defend themselves, much less attack their opponent's wife. It's a "new tone", dontcha know.....

[Gritty]

I'm shocked, Shocked!, I tell you, to find Anti-American Left-Wing groups and Teresa Heinz Kerry behind this shameless smear on President Bush and our War On Terror!!

I wonder if her patriotic husband (he served in Vietnam, you know, so we can't question his patriotism) is aware of any of this?

[Peach]

If we don't get the word out far and wide, we aren't doing our jobs. E-mail everyone you know.

Theresa and Kerry Heinz would be a disaster for this country in terms of the WOT.

[King Black Robe]

nice job Sherlock

[knak]

I'm sure I remember Barbra Striesand as being a very large contriubtor to the Tides Foundation also.

[evad]

Fox News maybe, but the NY Times. CNN, CBS etc. pigs will fly first.

YUP...they're on the way.

[kittymyrib]

Rush may pick this up since today he was wondering aloud how all these offended widows were ready with identical statements which they gave to every liberal network and newspaper beginning yesterday morning BEFORE the ads were broadcast. They knew in advance what was in the ads and had rounded up the professional 9/11 victims group for the occasion. I'm quite sure perky Katie Couric won't mention this smelly fact in her extensive coverage of this story.

[Fishtalk]

I am SHOCKED, SHOCKED I tell you!

"Okay guys, you checked this place for bugs? Are all the lines secure?" James Carville said to the small contingent in the room which included Harold Ickes, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Terry McAuliffe besides Carville himself.

"It's all right, James, calm down. We had the FBI checks for bugs three times. We can say what needs to be said. In fact, Hal, why don't you start. We've got no time to waste," Terry Mcauliffe said after all attendees were seated. Ickes cleared his throat and began.

"What we've got here are obstacles of the tallest order. Beginning with," Ickes said then paused and looked pointedly at McAuliffe, "no Democratic presidential candidate worth a spit in the dark."

McAuliffe looked annoyed but said nothing.

"Since it looks like we're stuck with Kerry the least we can do is have him get off of that Heinz money and help out his own cause. This is why, despite Terry's objections, we chose Kerry over Edwards. Only problem guys, Kerry is really an unlikeable guy."

The rest of the group nodded approval. None of them particularly liked John Kerry either. But there was the Heinz money and how sweet was it to use a dead Republican's money to run against a live Republican president?

The unspoken thought jolted Ickes to continue. He had to make the group understand just what a formidable Republican president they were up against.

"Don't believe any of that spin out there about this next election being a close one. Hell, WE planted the spin. Americans LIKE this President. Also, and this is the real battle, this president has the face on their TV screens on September 11th. Americans are loathe to change a president in the middle of a war. And for John Kerry? Come on guys. Terry, I ought to have your head for this."

"So what do you suggest, Hal?" Hillary said in a no-nonsense, some would call it bitchy, tone.

Hal looked at his papers and continued. "The only chance the Democrats have of winning the White House in 2004, and it's a slim one, is to do nothing but attack Bush for eight months straight. THAT part McAuliffe got straight when he shortened the primary season."

MCAuliffe glowed at Ickes' praise, late though it came.

Harold cleared his throat again. "It's not any one thing that's going to bring Bush down. It's screaming about his National Guard story, then moving on to every failure in Iraq, and the minute," with this Ickes paused and took a sip in water, " ...the minute he brings up 9/11 gang, we've got to go after him with guns blazing. It doesn't matter what rinky-dink scandal, which of our mouthpieces we gotta get out there, hell we may have to make up stuff out of whole cloth. But we gotta beat, we gotta pound, we gotta be outraged. Terry, you got that 9/11 widow gang set to go? Do they have their talking points? Have they practiced Terry?"

McAuliffe nodded, annoyed again.

"Gang, it's the constant little attacks, the short-lived but vicious, vicious, vicious. We gotta encourage viciousness, anger and hatred. No, we're not gonna get any die-hard Republicans. But give me a moderate soccer Mom in Iowa and over time if she's hears too much during the Today show, stuff about National Guard, stuff about making politics out of 9/11, stuff about no Bin Laden....day in and day out and mean, mean, mean, well that soccer Mom, after a while she's gonna be brushing her teeth and she's gonna decide she's heard enough about Bush. She used to think he's a great guy but after all the attacks, damn, this time she's either not going to vote at all because this lady ain't gonna like Kerry either, or she'll hold her nose and vote for Kerry. Either way, getting enough of those soccer moms to suspect something ain't right about their hero Bush, it's the only way we got a shot."

The group sat in silence, bathed in the words and what they knew they had to do.

"I gotta question," Bill said. "Suppose this thing backfires on us? Suppose that soccer Mom isn't as stupid as we think she is? There is the internet and talk radio. Suppose the Democratic party is seen for ...," Bill paused then completed his thought, "...for what we're really doing."

Ickes shrugged. As usual, Bill was a political animal. He knew what they were doing was dangerous. Ickes looked to the group and said quietly.

"What choice do we have?"

[philetus]

PING

[Mears]

bump for later

[BJClinton]

Some more info about the Tides Center and Tides Foundation from Capital Research Center. Very revealing as to who is giving the talking points to the widows of 9/11. Here's an excerpt from the first link, it's worth looking around CRC for more info:

The Tides Foundation and its offspring, the Tides Center, effectively “launder” donor dollars when they give to other nonprofits. The San Francisco-based Foundation receives donations from individuals and foundations and then channels them to activist groups. The result is that the original donor can’t be linked to the ultimate recipient. According to the most recent available IRS form 990, the Tides Foundation received $86.1 million in grants, gifts and other contributions in 2001. It gave away over $76 million. Since it was established in 1976, the Foundation has given away over $300 million in grants. (Total 2001 income was $93.2 million; the Foundation had assets of more than $156 million.)

The Tides Center, established in 1979, has been legally separate from the Foundation since 1996. It helps manage the legal, accounting and other administrative aspects of start-up political advocacy “projects.” In effect, it shelters activists and their fledgling organizations under the umbrella of its own nonprofit tax-exempt status.

In theory, the Foundation raises and grants money, while the Center manages projects and organizations. A legal firewall divides the two organizations and keeps their functions separate. In fact, each does both. The Foundation awards grants to groups, including groups not managed by the Center, that are promoting a kaleidoscope of liberal issues.

· environmental extremism
· exclusion of humans from public and private wildlands
· anti-war protest
· opposition to free trade
· banning firearms ownership
· abolition of the death penalty
· abortion rights
· gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender advocacy

[Godebert]

Other Tides Center projects include The Youth Gender Project, which seeks to "empower and support transgender, gender-variant, intersexed and gender-questioning youth and young adults."

Huh?? How many words they gonna invent for "faggot"?

[Dante3]

bttt

[ThePythonicCow]

Now, if you really want to get mad, ...

We need to come up with something equivalent to the [Barf Alert].

Something along the lines of [Rage Alert].

said half in jest ...

Thanks for posting this.

[shhrubbery!]

WOW. Great research.

I looked at these peoples' pathetic webpage and was wondering who funded them, but was too lazy to try to figure it out.

[Mo1]

How much more despicable can these people get?

From what I can gather .. A LOT more

[arasina]

Here's a post of mine from earlier today on another thread. It's not one of the "wives" but one of the brothers who is basically a peace activist:

---

To: Labyrinthos

...and the handful of democratic operatives who pose as non-partisans.

One of them, Andrew Rice, was spouting his supposed grief on The O'Reilly Factor last night. Check out the following to see what Andrew Rice is really all about.

Andrew Rice is a member of Peaceful Tomorrows, a group formed by families who lost loved ones in the attacks of 9/11. As such, he speaks regularly as a proponent for a restorative, non-violent response to 9/11. Rice lives and works in Houston, Texas for the progressive, non-profit Texas Freedom Network (www.tfn.org) which counters the influence of religious extremism in politics and organizes over 400 Texas religious leaders to speak out in favor of compassionate and inclusive democratic communities. This year [2003], for the Texas Freedom Network, Rice launched a new state-wide public education initiative entitled "Fundamentalism Education Project" that aims to organize progressive Texas religious leaders to openly challenge the myth that fundamentalism represents the essential values of our faith traditions.

---

SOURCE: Grand Valley Peace & Justice

SEE ALSO: Peaceful Tomorrows Flyers: Andrew Rice

SEE ALSO: Texas Freedom Network

SEE ALSO: Humanists of Houston

...and the handful of democratic operatives who pose as non-partisans.

[jmstein7]

BUMP!

[hellinahandcart]

Thanks, dead!

[hellinahandcart]

Tides ping. Come here and bookmark this, ping a few people or something.

[My2Cents]

I'm can't wait to get home tonight and see Peter Jennings' report on this!

[Grampa Dave]

Whining 9/11 relatives have been paid by Tides Foundation
To Grampa Dave | 03/05/2004 2:15:12 PM PST sent




Thanks to DeBug=int13 for providing these links and the reality of these scumbags.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1091052/posts?
page=96#96



And who is this survivors group "9-11 families for a Peaceful Tomorrow"?

Aww - phooey on them -

The real name of the outfit is September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows

And from all appearances it is a fund-raising front for the Tides Center (EIN 94-3213100) of San Francisco - and "Peaceful Tomorrows" doesn't try to hide that they are affiliated on their contribute page. I know some Freepers are familiar with the Tides Center, and for those who are not, it is a non-profit organization that rakes in fairly big bucks ($63+ mill in FY 2002, which included $5+ mill in Government grants) to distribute out grants and allocations to various and sundry "social" projects and causes, with left-wing groups getting decent cuts of the action - they consistently lay out a good bit of change to anti-second amendment groups, for instance. September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows doesn't appear to be necessarily autonomous from the Tides Center. Interestingly, the P.O. box listed on the "Peaceful Tomorrows" site shares the same location address and zip in the neighborhood with such notable organizations as The New Formulation: an Anti-Authoritarian Review of Books (a biannual journal examining the value of recent publications to the development of contemporary anarchist theory and politics), Institute for Anarchist Studies, Radical Magick (an "Eclectic Ceremonial Based Magick Group"), South Asian AIDS Action, Lesbian and Gay Labor Network, Dyke Action Machine! or DAM! - not that there's anything wrong with that (in Jerry Seinfeld voice). The Fellowship of Reconciliation website that is also mentioned on "Peaceful Tomorrows" contribute page says it all - offices in Wash. DC and also San Francisco.

Though they may splash New York this and New York that all around, "Peaceful Tomorrows" is created and based in Oakland California, founded and directed by Barry Amundson and sister-in-law Kelly Campbell, with the web technical matters being handled by Steve Simitzis of Saturn5 Productions in San Francisco, which has an apparent mission statement of providing web consulting and "hosting for artists, online communities, activist organizations"


Amundson is Designer and IT manager for the San Francisco branch of Fenton Communications, a "public interest communications" company that has offices in Washington DC, New York NY and San Francisco.

They have a rather interesting list of clientele that include -

MoveOn.org
People For the American Way
Nelson Mandela - Presidential Election
Greenpeace
Ben and Jerry's
Rock the Vote (which is also a "top five" paid contractor for the Tides Center)

Can probe here for the whole listing.





Here's a bit from lengthy LA Times article about what they do and the crowd they hang with - I think the Moderators won't have a cow over this excerpt -

October 1, 2002
Operation: Peace
Antiwar movement reflects a different America than in past eras, but diverse allies keep the spirit alive.
By REED JOHNSON, TIMES STAFF WRITER


"We want to poison your mind," teases the woman with slate-colored hair outside First Baptist Church in Koreatown. Swathed in natural fibers and sporting an anti-Dubya button, she's minding a table piled high with books, pamphlets and stickers decrying the sorry state of the planet--wars, corporate malfeasance, environmental disasters-in-the-making, and so on--along with half a dozen copies of the revolutionary rabble-rousings of Chairman Mao.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

But the rally's emotional climax occurred when Kelly Campbell and Barry Amundson, members of September Eleventh Families for Peaceful Tomorrows, a group composed of relatives of 9/11 victims, embraced beneath a giant video screen where images of the burning twin towers had flashed by moments earlier. Barry Amundson, 32, is the brother of Craig Amundson, a 28-year-old Army multimedia specialist who was killed when the hijacked American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon; Campbell is his sister-in-law. Both were in Los Angeles to voice their conviction that the response to last year's attacks on New York and Washington shouldn't be more mangled bodies and grieving relatives.


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *




And over at Indymedia -

9/10 Event in L.A. Features Peaceful Tomorrows
The Nation | 08.09.2002 20:19

"starring" Tom Hayden, Robert Scheer, Alfre Woodard, Ramona Ripston, Medea Benjamin, Maria Elena Durazo, Rev. George Regas and Rabbi Allen Freehling.

(Interesting links on that page)






Socialist birds of a feather flocking together........






96 posted on 03/05/2004 2:28:18 AM PST by DeBug=int13

[My2Cents]

Good point.

And, BTW, does anyone know if images of the bombed-out federal building in Oklahoma City ever showed up in Clinton re-election ads?

[My2Cents]

These points could have been lifted from the website of the PLO.

[arasina]

Wow! VERY well written!

[Pylot]

I wonder how long until this womans financing of political groups runs the Kerry campaign afoul of FEC rules.

[bvw]

Answer: a lot.

[MeekOneGOP]

Thanks for the post and ping !

Who'd a thunk it ?? ha !

The 'Offended' 911 Group “Peaceful Tomorrows”
is funded largely by Teresa Heinz

[BJClinton]

...wondering who funded them...

These guys have a laundering network that would make the Sapranos jealous. An excerpt from Undue Influence:

It’s not a traditional foundation. It doesn’t have an endowment. Instead, people and institutions that, for one reason or another, don’t want to be publicly identified with a certain cause give money to Tides as donor-advised funds, a little-known charitable giving vehicle that allows donors to recommend uses of their donations and also to remain anonymous.

[Hon]

Teresa Heinz and her Tides Foundation also fund Global Exchange (in addition to Peaceful Tomorrows):

Continue to the Groundspring Home Page Tides Statement for Peace

The Tides Community Responds to 9/11/01 Since the events of September 11, 2001, the Tides community has responded in a number of ways. Tides Foundation has granted over $1.5 million to organizations doing timely and essential peace and justice work, including assisting the working poor and immigrant communities in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, promoting peaceful co-existence within diverse and potentially conflicting communities, guarding against the erosion of civil liberties, and elevating the voices of peace and justice in response to the administration's intention to attack Iraq. More on the Foundation's efforts>> Tides Center has also done critical work to support a peaceful response to the crisis. Shortly following 9/11, Tides Center helped a group of victims' family members form September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows, an advocacy organization seeking effective nonviolent responses to terrorism. These family members continue to be a powerful, persuasive voice in the growing movement to find alternatives to war. And Groundspring.org (formerly eGrants.org) has played a key role in gathering, processing and granting more than $840,000 in online donations to support a wide range of peace and justice work Our efforts at Tides are rooted in our over 26 years of working for progressive social change, and we feel privileged to be able to redouble our commitment to such work at this critical time. Here are a few of the organizations we have been able support over the last year through the commitment and generosity of our partners in social change: American Civil Liberties Union Campaign to Defend the Constitution and Human Rights, Education and Law Project. Afghan Institute of Learning Providing emergency relief and human rights workshops to Afghan women refugees in Pakistan. Arab American Action Network Protecting Arab, Muslim and other immigrants' civil liberties and human rights. Asociacion Tepeyac de New York Advocating for and working with families of undocumented workers who died on 9/11. American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee Advocating for Arab Americans' civil rights, providing educational programs in schools, and giving legal assistance to hate crime victims. Center for Constitutional Rights Public education campaign to educate about the dangers posed by governmental anti-terrorism activities. Chinese Staff and Workers Association Ensuring that documented and undocumented Chinese workers and small business owners affected by 9/11 can access needed relief and services. Council on American-Islamic Relations Interfaith Coalition Against Hate Crimes project: promoting peaceful co-existence between Muslims and non-Muslims and decreasing the tolerance for anti-Muslim hate crimes. Global Exchange United for Peace Coalition Independent Press Association Beyond War project MoveOn.org Providing a forum for ordinary people to oppose war with Iraq. National Council of Churches Coalition building for peace National Mobilization Against Sweatshops Assisting immigrant workers in New York, especially the Latino, Afro-Caribbean and Eastern European communities that were hit hard by 9/11. New York ACORN Organizing low-income communities to ensure that rebuilding efforts and federal funds benefit all New Yorkers, and especially low-income people. Peace Action Education Fund October 26, 2002 Peace March on Washington. Physicians for Social Responsibility Campaign to Stop War Against Iraq project. Renaissance Economic Development Corporation Emergency loan funds to address the working capital and technical assistance needs of small business in lower Manhattan affected by 9/11. South Asian American Leaders of Tomorrow Planning and implementing hate crimes briefings and legislative and law enforcement trainings. South Asian Network Media outreach, coalition building, and staffing for civil liberties & detention issues.

https://www.groundspring.org/anti-war_fund.cfm

I've put up a thread which will helps illuminate some of the other people involved in this organized and bogus outrage:

Clinton Worker Behind Trashing Of Bush 9/11 Ad
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1091629/posts?page=20

[clyde260]

Gotta show this to my fireman buddies here in NY who are already outraged and disgusted.

[sauropod]

Pong.

[Grampa Dave]

Ping and thanks for the pong.

Our old enemy in the enviralmental wars, the Tides Foundation, is really big in trying to defeat GW. They started this action over two years ago. Then they bought the Rat victories for Kerry.

Whining 9/11 relatives have been paid by Tides Foundation
To Grampa Dave | 03/05/2004 2:15:12 PM PST sent




Thanks to DeBug=int13 for providing these links and the reality of these scumbags.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1091052/posts?
page=96#96



And who is this survivors group "9-11 families for a Peaceful Tomorrow"?

Aww - phooey on them -

The real name of the outfit is September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows

And from all appearances it is a fund-raising front for the Tides Center (EIN 94-3213100) of San Francisco - and "Peaceful Tomorrows" doesn't try to hide that they are affiliated on their contribute page. I know some Freepers are familiar with the Tides Center, and for those who are not, it is a non-profit organization that rakes in fairly big bucks ($63+ mill in FY 2002, which included $5+ mill in Government grants) to distribute out grants and allocations to various and sundry "social" projects and causes, with left-wing groups getting decent cuts of the action - they consistently lay out a good bit of change to anti-second amendment groups, for instance. September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows doesn't appear to be necessarily autonomous from the Tides Center. Interestingly, the P.O. box listed on the "Peaceful Tomorrows" site shares the same location address and zip in the neighborhood with such notable organizations as The New Formulation: an Anti-Authoritarian Review of Books (a biannual journal examining the value of recent publications to the development of contemporary anarchist theory and politics), Institute for Anarchist Studies, Radical Magick (an "Eclectic Ceremonial Based Magick Group"), South Asian AIDS Action, Lesbian and Gay Labor Network, Dyke Action Machine! or DAM! - not that there's anything wrong with that (in Jerry Seinfeld voice). The Fellowship of Reconciliation website that is also mentioned on "Peaceful Tomorrows" contribute page says it all - offices in Wash. DC and also San Francisco.

Though they may splash New York this and New York that all around, "Peaceful Tomorrows" is created and based in Oakland California, founded and directed by Barry Amundson and sister-in-law Kelly Campbell, with the web technical matters being handled by Steve Simitzis of Saturn5 Productions in San Francisco, which has an apparent mission statement of providing web consulting and "hosting for artists, online communities, activist organizations"


Amundson is Designer and IT manager for the San Francisco branch of Fenton Communications, a "public interest communications" company that has offices in Washington DC, New York NY and San Francisco.

They have a rather interesting list of clientele that include -

MoveOn.org
People For the American Way
Nelson Mandela - Presidential Election
Greenpeace
Ben and Jerry's
Rock the Vote (which is also a "top five" paid contractor for the Tides Center)

Can probe here for the whole listing.





Here's a bit from lengthy LA Times article about what they do and the crowd they hang with - I think the Moderators won't have a cow over this excerpt -

October 1, 2002
Operation: Peace
Antiwar movement reflects a different America than in past eras, but diverse allies keep the spirit alive.
By REED JOHNSON, TIMES STAFF WRITER


"We want to poison your mind," teases the woman with slate-colored hair outside First Baptist Church in Koreatown. Swathed in natural fibers and sporting an anti-Dubya button, she's minding a table piled high with books, pamphlets and stickers decrying the sorry state of the planet--wars, corporate malfeasance, environmental disasters-in-the-making, and so on--along with half a dozen copies of the revolutionary rabble-rousings of Chairman Mao.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

But the rally's emotional climax occurred when Kelly Campbell and Barry Amundson, members of September Eleventh Families for Peaceful Tomorrows, a group composed of relatives of 9/11 victims, embraced beneath a giant video screen where images of the burning twin towers had flashed by moments earlier. Barry Amundson, 32, is the brother of Craig Amundson, a 28-year-old Army multimedia specialist who was killed when the hijacked American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon; Campbell is his sister-in-law. Both were in Los Angeles to voice their conviction that the response to last year's attacks on New York and Washington shouldn't be more mangled bodies and grieving relatives.


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *




And over at Indymedia -

9/10 Event in L.A. Features Peaceful Tomorrows
The Nation | 08.09.2002 20:19

"starring" Tom Hayden, Robert Scheer, Alfre Woodard, Ramona Ripston, Medea Benjamin, Maria Elena Durazo, Rev. George Regas and Rabbi Allen Freehling.

(Interesting links on that page)






Socialist birds of a feather flocking together........






96 posted on 03/05/2004 2:28:18 AM PST by DeBug=int13

[ohioWfan]

Yeah.......I know.

I'm just hoping.....praying.....that this kind of stuff gets out to the American people somehow, and they say enough's enough.

Dreaming, I guess.......

[onyx]

*Sigh* --- so much damning evidence on him. We're Kerry a Republican, he's be toast by now.

[Grampa Dave]

Heinz and the Tides Foundation set this up a long time ago.

Then they bought the nomination for Kerry.

Who else have they bought out? I would bet a lot of pseudo conservatives who hate GW worse than Kerry does.

[Ditto]

I guess that makes Kerry the Prince of Tides.

LOL. I love it.

[sauropod]

Fenton Communications was the outfit that pushed the "roadless area initiative" really hard in 1998-1999. I used to receive e-mails from them.

[Grampa Dave]

Madame Kerry and her Tides Foundation bought out these whiners a long time ago to be able to have them ready when 9/11 became campaign issue.

Who else have they bought out. My money is on the various mediots in TV land and fish wrap land, and the pseudo conservatives who hate GW more than the Kerry's do.

[Grampa Dave]

You have a great memory. I had forgotten about them.

[Mo1]

If we don't get the word out far and wide, we aren't doing our jobs. E-mail everyone you know.

Already Done ... the liberal media/press can try and ignore the truth .. but the news WILL get out to the people

[calljack]

interesting stuff here

http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=12187

[Argh]

WOW!!

[Headfulofghosts]

SOmething I do not understand, why is it that nobody in the news media seems to mention anything about the CIA in the 90's and what happened, you want to pass the blame-fine, you have nobody else to look to except for yourself. The media and these families are " outraged" fine, will I don't hear them calling for the old Clinton Administration to hand over " terror 2000," or " Deutch report." Bunch, of hyprocrates that is what they are. Why did we screw up in Iraq, because of WMD, because of intelligence. Nobody asks this question. Who was in charge of the CIA before Tenet? John Deutch. What happened to him? He was fired, for illegally storing classified material. What happened to Wen Ho Lee? He was tried, humiliated, Deutch, was pardoned by Clinton.

[Headfulofghosts]

Nobody gave a damn when Clark perjured himself at the Hague, either.

[bayourod]

Heinz hinted a couple days ago that she would spend her own money on political ads "to respond to attacks against her.

You probably just cost that poor woman a couple million.

Good research. I'm Greatful dead.