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Revealed: How 'War Hero' Kerry Tried To Put Off Vietnam Military Duty
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 3-7-2004 | Charles Laurence

Posted on 03/06/2004 4:39:11 PM PST by blam

Revealed: how 'war hero' Kerry tried to put off Vietnam military duty

By Charles Laurence in New York
(Filed: 07/03/2004)

Senator John Kerry, the presumed Democratic presidential candidate who is trading on his Vietnam war record to campaign against President George W Bush, tried to defer his military service for a year, according to a newly rediscovered article in a Harvard University newspaper.

He wrote to his local recruitment board seeking permission to spend a further 12 months studying in Paris, after completing his degree course at Yale University in the mid-1960s.

The revelation appears to undercut Sen Kerry's carefully-cultivated image as a man who willingly served his country in a dangerous war - in supposed contrast to President Bush, who served in the Texas National Guard and thus avoided being sent to Vietnam.

The Harvard Crimson newspaper followed a youthful Mr Kerry in Boston as he campaigned for Congress for the first time in 1970. In the course of a lengthy article, "John Kerry: A Navy Dove Runs for Congress", published on February 18, the paper reported: "When he approached his draft board for permission to study for a year in Paris, the draft board refused and Kerry decided to enlist in the Navy."

Samuel Goldhaber, the article's author who is now a cardiologist attached to the Harvard School of Medicine, spent 11 hours trailing Mr Kerry and still remembers that the subject of the Paris deferment came up during long conversations about Vietnam.

"I stand by my story," he told The Telegraph. "It was a long time ago, and I was 19 at the time, so it is hard to remember every detail. But I do know this: at no point did Kerry contact either me or the Crimson to dispute anything I had written."

Sen Kerry's campaign headquarters in Washington refused an opportunity to deny the report. Despite repeated telephone calls from The Telegraph, a spokesman refused to comment. Another Democrat official said merely: "In Vietnam, John Kerry proved his patriotism beyond question. Everyone knows that."

A senior Republican strategist, who asked not to be named, said: "I've not heard this before. This undercuts Kerry's complaints about Bush and it continues to pose questions as to his credibility among ordinary Vietnam veterans."

He said it would fuel concerns over the way Sen Kerry made a name for himself by leading anti-war protests in Washington and Boston in the late 1960s and early 1970s after he had completed his service in the US Navy, even while his former comrades continued to fight and die.

A newly-published biography of Sen Kerry by Douglas Brinkley, A Tour of Duty, makes no mention of the requested deferment or planned year in Paris. At the time, it was still unclear just how long America would remain in Vietnam, and it might have seemed that a year's deferral of service could render enlistment unnecessary.

According to the Democratic Party's version of Sen Kerry's military history, he joined the Reserve Officer Training Corps at Harvard through eagerness to do his duty, and sailed with the Navy for combat as soon as he graduated in 1966.

Sen Kerry won a gallantry medal for his service as a gunboat captain on the Mekong Delta, and was honorably discharged with three "purple heart" medals after sustaining three wounds. He has consistently presented himself as a leader who argued against the war only after fulfilling his duty in the field. Supporters argue that his war record makes him a more trustworthy leader than President Bush, who served sporadically in the National Guard at home.

"This means that Kerry didn't jump into all that heroic service until he was pushed, and it is a very nice piece of information," said Lucianne Goldberg, a prominent Republican campaigner.

Republican strategists for President Bush were already investigating Sen Kerry's record of three wounds sustained in Vietnam. "We find that he had only one day off sick - with three wounds? What exactly were these wounds?" she asked.

Mr Goldhaber recalled that, during a day spent with Sen Kerry and one assistant during his congressional campaign, he had described his involvement, service and decision to oppose the war in great detail.

"I am not at all surprised that he wants to be president, because he exuded ambition from the word go," said Dr Goldhaber. "At the time, the idea that he tried to persuade the draft board to let him spend a year in Paris was just a detail."

A spokesman for the Bush-Cheney re-election campaign declined to comment.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1970; 2004; bandaidwounds; bush2004; deferment; draftdodgerkerry; harvard; harvardcrimson; hero; jeanquerrie; johnfrenchkerry; kerry; kerrydeferment; militaryduty; revealed; vietnam; war
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1 posted on 03/06/2004 4:39:11 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
"This means that Kerry didn't jump into all that heroic service until he was pushed, and it is a very nice piece of information," said Lucianne Goldberg, a prominent Republican campaigner.
Republican strategists for President Bush were already investigating Sen Kerry's record of three wounds sustained in Vietnam. "We find that he had only one day off sick - with three wounds? What exactly were these wounds?" she asked.

Way to go, Trixie...

2 posted on 03/06/2004 4:41:30 PM PST by Old Sarge
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To: blam
Well, well, well. Interesting !!!!
3 posted on 03/06/2004 4:42:15 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Hon
JFKerry's words getting scrutinized in UK.
4 posted on 03/06/2004 4:42:23 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Howlin; PhiKapMom
Drip, drip.............
5 posted on 03/06/2004 4:42:53 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: blam
He wanted to dodge the draft so he could spend the war in... PARIS?!... too rich....
6 posted on 03/06/2004 4:44:10 PM PST by ambrose ("John Kerry has blood of American soldiers on his hands" - Lt. Col. Oliver North)
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To: Old Sarge
Where was Kerry and when did he know it? ...(or something like that)
7 posted on 03/06/2004 4:44:29 PM PST by woofie ( 99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name.)
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To: blam
"This means that Kerry didn't jump into all that heroic service until he was pushed, and it is a very nice piece of information," said Lucianne Goldberg, a prominent Republican campaigner.

Wow, Trixie scores one in UK article.

8 posted on 03/06/2004 4:44:59 PM PST by onyx (Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Jeffrey Dahmer, and Timothy McVeigh)
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To: blam
The long knives are out for Kerry. Those FBI files certainly come in handy for the Clintons.
9 posted on 03/06/2004 4:45:49 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: blam
Well well well....
10 posted on 03/06/2004 4:46:18 PM PST by WVNan
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To: blam
No wonder he doesn't want to release his records
11 posted on 03/06/2004 4:48:22 PM PST by Kaslin (It is now more important then ever that we re-elect President Bush)
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To: backhoe
It's now news in UK.

*please add to your files and afterward please advise me*
12 posted on 03/06/2004 4:48:22 PM PST by onyx (Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Jeffrey Dahmer, and Timothy McVeigh)
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Yup!! And let's hope all the "pieces" fit together nicely and come back to kick Kerry in the A** at election time!!
13 posted on 03/06/2004 4:49:01 PM PST by soozla (PRESS HARD!! You are making three copies!!)
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To: blam
This is just too good...
14 posted on 03/06/2004 4:49:30 PM PST by dmanLA
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To: blam
He wrote to his local recruitment board seeking permission to spend a further
12 months studying in Paris...


Guilty (sound of gavle crashing down).

Bailiff, next case!
15 posted on 03/06/2004 4:51:01 PM PST by VOA
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To: blam
The Truth About Senator John Kerry
16 posted on 03/06/2004 4:53:18 PM PST by Ragirl (Vote in '04 ! Those who sit on their hands end up with poop on them.)
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To: VOA
"Bailiff, next case!"

I did not have sex with that woman.

Guilty!

Baliff: Next case.

17 posted on 03/06/2004 4:53:39 PM PST by blam
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To: onyx
Cross-link:

-John Kerry- some selected, informative links...--

18 posted on 03/06/2004 4:55:23 PM PST by backhoe (--30--)
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To: ambrose
He wanted to dodge the draft so he could spend the war in... PARIS?!... too rich....

One year deferment? Not necessarily a long-run dodge - but to spend it in France? Everything with Kerry comes back to France.

19 posted on 03/06/2004 5:01:54 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Shermy
bttt
20 posted on 03/06/2004 5:05:02 PM PST by Pikamax
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To: onyx
The American media do not have access to the same information at our British friends?
21 posted on 03/06/2004 5:05:18 PM PST by Johnstone (carpe diem)
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To: blam; Timesink; Alamo-Girl; anniegetyourgun; kattracks; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Bigun; ...
PUNK


PING.©


22 posted on 03/06/2004 5:06:13 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (Is it time to water the tree of Liberty ?)
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To: Johnstone

LOL! That's funny. Sad, but funny.
23 posted on 03/06/2004 5:07:27 PM PST by onyx (Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Jeffrey Dahmer, and Timothy McVeigh)
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To: blam
Bump for exposing Kerry for the phony that he is.
24 posted on 03/06/2004 5:07:38 PM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: Johnstone
The American media do not have access to the same information at our British friends?

Of course they do---------they just choose to ignore it..........bias anyone??????

25 posted on 03/06/2004 5:09:22 PM PST by Gabz (The tobacco industry doesn't pay cigarette taxes - smokers do!)
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To: Johnstone
The American media do not have access to the same information at our British friends?

Stuff our media finds but don't want to float first is leaked there, we return the favor broadcasting Princess Diana tapes.

With the Polier matter, the Wash post (fed by Clinton or Clark) and others leaked a little to Drudge, more then to the Brit papers.

26 posted on 03/06/2004 5:10:25 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Old Sarge
"Lucianne Goldberg, a prominent Republican campaigner."

I'm sure she'd be surprised to her herself referred to as a Republican campaigner. She's not even a registered Republican. (She's a registered Conservative.)
27 posted on 03/06/2004 5:16:31 PM PST by Hon
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To: Travis McGee; onyx; kcvl; Mo1; Amelia; Southflanknorthpawsis; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; deport
OMG, this is so great......not only did he try to defer, once he got in, he picked a boat that wasn't getting much action in the war (until he got on them.....LOL), and then he spent the rest of the time trying to get OUT of there.........LOL.

What a FRAUD!

Lord, life is SWELL!

Too funny!
28 posted on 03/06/2004 5:28:34 PM PST by Howlin (Charter Member of the Incredible Interlocking Institutional Power!!!!)
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To: Howlin
He'll be duly bloodied come November.
29 posted on 03/06/2004 5:30:53 PM PST by onyx (Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Jeffrey Dahmer, and Timothy McVeigh)
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To: Howlin
I love it..........I love it.........I love it.
30 posted on 03/06/2004 5:35:50 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: blam
Another good find.
31 posted on 03/06/2004 5:41:56 PM PST by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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To: GailA; blam
Yes, it is YET another great find by blam; I wonder what his secret is??
32 posted on 03/06/2004 5:45:01 PM PST by Howlin (Charter Member of the Incredible Interlocking Institutional Power!!!!)
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To: blam
Get ready for Waffles to put on the drama queen routine.
33 posted on 03/06/2004 5:54:28 PM PST by Paul Atreides (Is it really so difficult to post the entire article?)
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To: blam
John Kerry proved his patriotism beyond question. Everyone knows that."

"Everyone knows that"....

Which translates as: "This is a lie, but why let that whole 'fact thing' get in the way of what we want you to believe?"

"Everyone knows", and "we all know" are also the code words Hillary uses for every unsupported claim she makes. Apparently it's some kind of inside 'rat speak. Sort of like those hand signs that gang members throw.

34 posted on 03/06/2004 5:56:27 PM PST by ArmstedFragg
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To: Peach
"The long knives are out for Kerry. Those FBI files certainly come in handy for the Clintons."

I watched the "McLaughlin Report" awhile ago...One of the guys (who had predicted 2 years ago that Kerry would be the demo nominee this year) said he flat-out is sure that Kerry will win this year's election. When the suggestion was made that Hillary might run as VP, the luvly/talented Eleanor Clift quickly said, "No way, no way!"

I remain convinced that the Clintons/McAuliffe faction WILL somehow stymie Kerry so he loses the election. Or else, she decides to run after a convention battle of some sort (don't know how that works exactly).
35 posted on 03/06/2004 6:01:33 PM PST by Maria S ("I will do whatever the Americans want…I saw what happened in Iraq, and I was afraid." Gaddafi, 9/03)
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To: Maria S
There were three negative articles on Kerry in the last 2 hours posted on FR from mainstream press sources.

It makes me think Hillary is working behind the scenes.

UNLESS the administration does a better job getting the information out about the job situation, President Bush will lose, I fear.

I have found these two Investors Daily articles very interesting. The economy is in GREAT shape. The job situation is about what is was in the 90's - 5.6 unemployment.

BUT, the press is doing everything they can to downplay the administration's success.

http://www.investors.com/ibdarchives/ArtShow.asp?atn=157881731831636&sy=&kw=unemployment&ps=

http://www.investors.com/ibdarchives/ArtShow.asp?atn=158756559569663&sy=&kw=unemployment&ps=

36 posted on 03/06/2004 6:07:57 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: blam
WHAT 3 WOUNDS ?......
I wanna know NOW... (not known for patience)
Somebodys saveing this for the home strech..

Kerry should be afraid very afraid...

37 posted on 03/06/2004 6:12:50 PM PST by hosepipe
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To: Howlin
We sure won't see any articles like these in our local fish wrapper the commie appeal in Memphis...it's the official water carrier of RATS.
38 posted on 03/06/2004 6:17:58 PM PST by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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To: Hon
Lucianne Goldberg was a friend of Linda Tripp, a great American, and is the mother of Jonah Goldberg, who writes excellent columns. Good to know that she's still alive.
39 posted on 03/06/2004 6:18:19 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: blam; Coop
Vietnam? John Kerry? Who knew?
40 posted on 03/06/2004 6:20:28 PM PST by IGOTMINE (We are being incrementally criminalized by a government that does not trust us with firearms.)
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To: GailA
There isn't room in our paper for stories like these because they are wall to wall coverage of John Edwards. And, yes, even now!
41 posted on 03/06/2004 6:22:27 PM PST by Howlin (Charter Member of the Incredible Interlocking Institutional Power!!!!)
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To: Howlin; lodwick; Cuttnhorse; operation clinton cleanup; Servant of the Nine; catpuppy; ...
A Navy Dove Runs for Congress", published on February 18, the paper reported: "When he approached his draft board for permission to study for a year in Paris, the draft board refused and Kerry decided to enlist in the Navy."

So not only did he not enlist

But he tried to Dodge the Draft??

BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

42 posted on 03/06/2004 7:01:00 PM PST by Mo1 (Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?)
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To: blam
It's not who you know, it's who you know....

Bill Clinton's Dec. 3, 1969 Letter to ROTC Colonel

I am sorry to be so long in writing. I know I promised to let you hear from me at least once a month, and from now on you will, but I have had to have some time to think about this first letter. Almost daily since my return to England I have thought about writing, about what I want to and ought to say.

First, I want to thank you, not just for saving me from the draft, but for being so kind and decent to me last summer, when I was as low as I have ever been. One thing which made the bond we struck in good faith somewhat palatable to me was my high regard for you personally. In retrospect, it seems that the admiration might not have been mutual had you known a little more about me, about my political beliefs and activities. At least you might have thought me more fit for the draft than for ROTC.

Let me try to explain. As you know, I worked for two years in a very minor position on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. I did it for the experience and the salary but also for the opportunity, however small, of working every day against a war I opposed and despised with a depth of feeling I had reserved solely for racism in America before Vietnam. I did not take the matter lightly but studied it carefully, and there was a time when not many people had more information about Vietnam at hand than I did.

I have written and spoken and marched against the war. One of the national organizers of the Vietnam Moratorium is a close friend of mine. After I left Arkansas last summer, I went to Washington to work in the national headquarters of the Moratorium, then to England to organize the Americans here for demonstrations Oct. 15 and Nov. 16.

Interlocked with the war is the draft issue, which I did not begin to consider separately until early 1968. For a law seminar at Georgetown I wrote a paper on the legal arguments for and against allowing, within the Selective Service System, the classification of selective conscientious objection for those opposed to participation in a particular war, not simply to `participation in war in any form.' From my work I came to believe that the draft system itself is illegitimate. No government really rooted in limited, parliamentary democracy should have the power to make its citizens fight and kill and die in a war they may oppose, a war which even possibly may be wrong, a war which, in any case, does not involve immediately the peace and freedom of the nation.

The draft was justified in World War II because the life of the people collectively was at stake. Individuals had to fight, if the nation was to survive, for the lives of their countrymen and their way of life. Vietnam is no such case. Nor was Korea an example where, in my opinion, certain military action was justified but the draft was not, for the reasons stated above.

Because of my opposition to the draft and the war. I am in great sympathy with those who are not willing to fight, kill and maybe die for their country (i.e. the particular policy of a particular government) right or wrong. Two of my friends at Oxford are conscientious objectors. I wrote a letter of recommendation for one of them to his Mississippi draft board, a letter which I am more proud of than anything else I wrote at Oxford last year. One of my roommates is a draft resister who is possibly under indictment and may never be able to go home again. He is one of the bravest, best men I know. His country needs men like him more than they know. That he is considered a criminal is an obscenity.

The decision not to be a resister and the related subsequent decisions were the most difficult of my life. I decided to accept the draft in spite of my beliefs for one reason: to maintain my political viability within the system. For years I have worked to prepare myself for a political life characterized by both practical political ability and concern for rapid social progress. It is a life I still feel compelled to try to lead. I do not think our system of government is by definition corrupt, however dangerous and inadequate it has been in recent years. (The society may be corrupt, but that is not the same thing, and if that is true, we are all finished anyway.) When the draft came, despite political convictions, I was having a hard time facing the prospect of fighting a war I had been fighting against, and that is why I contacted you. ROTC was the one way left in which I could possibly, but not positively, avoid both Vietnam and resistance. Going on with my education, even coming back to England, played no part in my decision to join ROTC. I am back here, and would have been at Arkansas Law School because there is nothing else I can do. In fact, I would like to have been able to take a year out perhaps to teach in a small college or work on some community action project and in the process to decide whether to attend law school or graduate school and how to begin putting what I have learned to use.

But the particulars of my personal life are not nearly as important to me as the principles involved. After I signed the ROTC letter of intent, I began to wonder whether the compromise I had made with myself was not more objectionable than the draft would have been, because I had no interest in the ROTC program in itself and all I seemed to have done was to protect myself from physical harm. Also, I began to think I had deceived you, not by lies--there were none--but by failing to tell you all the things I'm writing now. I doubt that I had the mental coherence to articulate them then.

At that time, after we had made our agreement and you had sent my 1-D deferment to my draft board, the anguish and loss of my self-regard and self-confidence really set in. I hardly slept for weeks and kept going by eating compulsively and reading until exhaustion brought sleep. Finally, on Sept. 12 I stayed up all night writing a letter to the chairman of my draft board, saying basically what is in the preceding paragraph, thanking him for trying to help in a case where he really couldn't, and stating that I couldn't do the ROTC after all and would he please draft me as soon as possible.

I never mailed the letter, but I did carry it on me every day until I got on the plane to return to England. I didn't mail the letter because I didn't see, in the end, how my going in the Army and maybe going to Vietnam would achieve anything except a feeling that I had punished myself and gotten what I deserved. So I came back to England to try to make something of this second year of my Rhodes scholarship.

And that is where I am now, writing to you because you have been good to me and have a right to know what I think and feel. I am writing too in the hope that my telling this one story will help you to understand more clearly how so many fine people have come to find themselves still loving their country but loathing the military, to which you and other good men have devoted years, lifetimes, of the best service you could give. To many of us, it is no longer clear what is service and what is disservice, or if it is clear, the conclusion is likely to be illegal.

Forgive the length of this letter. There was much to say. There is still a lot to be said, but it can wait. Please say hello to Col. Jones for me.

Merry Christmas.

Sincerely, Bill Clinton.


The following is Colonel Eugene Holmes's September 1992 affidavit concerning Bill Clinton and the draft.

Colonel Eugene Holmes is a highly decorated officer of the United States Army. He is a survivor of the Bataan Death March and three and a half years as a POW of the Japanese. He served 32 years in the army before retiring with 100% disability. His decorations include the Silver Star, 2 Bronze Stars, 2 Legions of Merit, the Army Commendation Medal and many others. During the Vietnam War, he personally inducted both his sons into the service--one for 3 years as a regular army enlisted man, and the other as a commissioned officer (after he had completed ROTC training).


There have been many unanswered questions as to the circumstances surrounding Bill Clinton's involvement with the ROTC department at the University of Arkansas. Prior to this time I have not felt the necessity for discussing the details. The reason I have not done so before is that my poor physical health (a consequence of participation in the Battan Death March and the subsequent three and a half years interment in Japanese POW camps) has precluded me from getting into what I felt was unnecessary involvement. However, present polls show that there is the imminent danger to our country of a draft dodger becoming Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States. While it is true, as Mr. Clinton has stated, that there were many others who avoided serving their country in the Vietnam war, they are not aspiring to be the President of the United States.

The tremendous implications of the possibility of his becoming Commander-in-Chief of the United States Armed Forces compels me now to comment on the facts concerning Mr. Clinton's evasion of the draft. This account would not have been imperative had Bill Clinton been completely honest with the American public concerning this matter. But as Mr. Clinton replied on a news conference this evening (September 5, 1992) after being asked another particular about his dodging the draft, "Almost everyone concerned with these incidents are dead. I have no more comments to make". Since I may be the only person living who can give a first hand account of what actually transpired, I am obligated by my love for my country and my sense of duty to divulge what actually happened and make it a matter of record.

Bill Clinton came to see me at my home in 1969 to discuss his desire to enroll in the ROTC program at the University of Arkansas. We engaged in an extensive, approximately two (2) hour interview. At no time during this long conversation about his desire to join the program did he inform me of his involvement, participation and actually organizing protests against the United States involvement in South East Asia. He was shrewd enough to realize that had I been aware of his activities, he would not have been accepted into the ROTC program as a potential officer in the United States Army.

The next day I began to receive phone calls regarding Bill Clinton's draft status. I was informed by the draft board that it was of interest to Senator Fullbright's office that Bill Clinton, a Rhodes Scholar, should be admitted to the ROTC program. I received several such calls. The general message conveyed by the draft board to me was that Senator Fullbright's office was putting pressure on them and that they needed my help. I then made the necessary arrangements to enroll Mr. Clinton into the ROTC program at the University of Arkansas.

I was not "saving" him from serving his country, as he erroneously thanked me for in his letter from England (dated December 3, 1969). I was making it possible for a Rhodes Scholar to serve in the military as an officer. In retrospect I see that Mr. Clinton had no intention of following through with his agreement to join the Army ROTC program at the University of Arkansas or to attend the University of Arkansas Law School. I had explained to him the necessity of enrolling at the University of Arkansas as a student in order to be eligible to take the ROTC program at the University. He never enrolled at the University of Arkansas, but instead enrolled at Yale after attending Oxford. I believe that he purposely deceived me, using the possibility of joining the ROTC as a ploy to work with the draft board to delay his induction and get a new draft classification.

The December 3rd letter written to me by Mr. Clinton, and subsequently taken from the files by Lt. Col. Clint Jones, my executive officer, was placed into the ROTC files so that a record would be available in case the applicant should again petition to enter the ROTC program. The information in that letter alone would have restricted Bill Clinton from ever qualifying to be an officer in the United States Military. Even more significant was his lack of veracity in purposefully defrauding the military by deceiving me, both in concealing his anti-military activities overseas and his counterfeit intentions for later military service. These actions cause me to question both his patriotism and his integrity. When I consider the calabre, the bravery, and the patriotism of the fine young soldiers whose deaths I have witnessed, and others whose funerals I have attended.... When I reflect on not only the willingness but eagerness that so many of them displayed in their earnest desire to defend and serve their country, it is untenable and incomprehensible to me that a man who was not merely unwilling to serve his country, but actually protested against its military, should ever be in the position of Commander-in-Chief of our armed Forces.

I write this declaration not only for the living and future generations, but for those who fought and died for our country. If space and time permitted I would include the names of the ones I knew and fought with, and along with them I would mention my brother Bob, who was killed during World War II and is buried in Cambridge, England (at the age of 23, about the age Bill Clinton was when he was over in England protesting the war). I have agonized over whether or not to submit this statement to the American people. But, I realize that even though I served my country by being in the military for over 32 years, and having gone through the ordeal of months of combat under the worst of conditions followed by years of imprisonment by the Japanese, it is not enough. I'm writing these comments to let everyone know that I love my country more than I do my own personal security and well-being. I will go to my grave loving these United States of America and the liberty for which so many men have fought and died. Because of my poor physical condition this will be my final statement. I will make no further comments to any of the media regarding this issue.

Eugene Holmes

43 posted on 03/06/2004 7:06:17 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Mo1
AND he's an unindicted murderer of an old man, a woman, a child, and a young boy...all civilians. He admitted to observing atrocities but did not report them as required by his officer status. He beached his boat contrary to rules and leaving his mates vulnerable, went on land, and allegedly shot a wounded enemy, a breach of the warfare rules. Why is this man not locked up?
44 posted on 03/06/2004 7:07:33 PM PST by Carolinamom
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To: Carolinamom
That is one of the sad parts of this whole story.
45 posted on 03/06/2004 7:11:55 PM PST by Mo1 (Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?)
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To: Peach
The mainstream press (excl. FNC) are not downplaying his successes because to them everything he does is a failure. I come in here to read the facts but these facts ain't reaching John Q public and the cold hard facts are that GW is LOSING the war of words. The pit bulls are on the loose and if the conservatives don't find more effective and timely responses to the attacks PLUS take the offensive themselves against the dims and the biased networks, the graffiti is on the wall. Read 'em and weep. I hate to sound pessimistic but the administration is coming across as sitting ducks. Of course duck hunting and of course guns will be outlawed in the Kerry, Kennedy, Streisand, Cronkite, Baldwin, Belafonte, Ramsey Clark, et al Administration. Ok, I'll stop wining now (time for some beer).
46 posted on 03/06/2004 7:13:23 PM PST by secondamendmentkid
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To: blam
Original Harvard Crimson article:

Published on Wednesday, February 18, 1970
John Kerry: A Navy Dove Runs for Congress

http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=352185

"At Yale, Kerry was chairman of the Political Union and later, as Commencement speaker, urged the United States to withdraw from Vietnam and to scale down foreign military operations. And this was way back in 1966.

When he approached his draft board for permission to study for a year in Paris, the draft board refused and Kerry decided to enlist in the Navy. "

Quoted from the same article:

"Kerry said that the United Nations should have control over most of our foreign military operations. "I'm an internationalist. I'd like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations."

On other issues, Kerry wants "to almost eliminate CIA activity."

47 posted on 03/06/2004 7:17:35 PM PST by FairOpinion ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country." --- G. W. Bush)
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To: secondamendmentkid
I agree with you 100%. I've e-mailed the RNC, Rove, the White House and my Senator Lindsey Graham about this matter.

Even Republicans are disenchanted. The accomplishments aren't being heard by the people. A lot of it, perhaps most of it, is the media.

So Bush needs to take it right to the people and/or have press conferences every day and force the nets to cover him.
48 posted on 03/06/2004 7:21:44 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: blam
And another mostly ignored quote -- from a Boston Globe article from 6/16/2003:

Heroism, and growing concern about war

"Kerry initially hoped to continue his service at a relatively safe distance from most fighting, securing an assignment as "swift boat" skipper. While the 50-foot swift boats cruised the Vietnamese coast a little closer to the action than the Gridley had come, they were still considered relatively safe.

"I didn't really want to get involved in the war," Kerry said in a little-noticed contribution to a book of Vietnam reminiscences published in 1986. "When I signed up for the swift boats, they had very little to do with the war. They were engaged in coastal patrolling and that's what I thought I was going to be doing."

But two weeks after he arrived in Vietnam, the swift boat mission changed -- and Kerry went from having one of the safest assignments in the escalating conflict to one of the most dangerous. Under the newly launched Operation SEALORD, swift boats were charged with patrolling the narrow waterways of the Mekong Delta to draw fire and smoke out the enemy. Cruising inlets and coves and canals, swift boats were especially vulnerable targets."

49 posted on 03/06/2004 7:22:37 PM PST by FairOpinion ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country." --- G. W. Bush)
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50 posted on 03/06/2004 7:24:01 PM PST by Main Street (Stuck in traffic.)
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