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HERE IS THE ENEMY -- they have posted their names
A.N.S.W.E.R. | 3-7-04 | dfu

Posted on 03/07/2004 7:02:01 PM PST by doug from upland

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To: Lion in Winter

Tides Center is funded by so many giant foundations that the Foundation Center database shows 544 separate grants. The most recent twenty grants recorded are:

Record 1
FOUNDATION NAME: The Pew Charitable Trusts
ABSTRACT: To assess and publicize risks and impacts of salmon farming in British Columbia on environment and to eliminate or curtail indiscriminate slaughter of seals and sea lions by salmon farmers
AMOUNT: $181,000 YEAR AUTHORIZED: 2001 

Record 2
FOUNDATION NAME: The Pew Charitable Trusts
ABSTRACT: To analyze and evaluate human health impacts of persistent organic pollutants in farmed Atlantic salmon and wild Pacific salmon
AMOUNT: $2,530,000 YEAR AUTHORIZED: 2001 

Record 3
FOUNDATION NAME: The Pew Charitable Trusts
ABSTRACT: For Pew Research Center For People and the Press to conduct research and opinion surveys on political, social, economic and journalistic matters and to disseminate results to policy makers, media and public
AMOUNT: $8,200,000 YEAR AUTHORIZED: 2001 

Record 4
FOUNDATION NAME: The Pew Charitable Trusts
ABSTRACT: For multination public opinion surveys by Pew Research Center For People and the Press of attitudes toward globalization and democratization as well as conferences, publications and other activities to disseminate and foster public discussion of survey results
AMOUNT: $3,800,000 YEAR AUTHORIZED: 2001 

Record 5
FOUNDATION NAME: The Pew Charitable Trusts
ABSTRACT: For effort to expand and refine activities of National Youth Vote 2000 Coalition and to increase youth involvement in electoral process
AMOUNT: $670,000 YEAR AUTHORIZED: 2001 

Record 6
FOUNDATION NAME: Lucent Technologies Foundation
ABSTRACT: For Global Summit of Women
AMOUNT: $30,000 YEAR AUTHORIZED: 2000 

Record 7
FOUNDATION NAME: DaimlerChrysler Corporation Fund
NO ABSTRACT OF PURPOSE PROVIDED
AMOUNT: $50,000 YEAR AUTHORIZED: 2000 

Record 8
FOUNDATION NAME: Turner Foundation, Inc.
NO ABSTRACT OF PURPOSE PROVIDED
AMOUNT: $80,000 YEAR AUTHORIZED: 2000 

Record 9
FOUNDATION NAME: Turner Foundation, Inc.
NO ABSTRACT OF PURPOSE PROVIDED
AMOUNT: $275,000 YEAR AUTHORIZED: 2000 

Record 10
FOUNDATION NAME: Evelyn and Walter Haas, Jr. Fund
ABSTRACT: For National Leadership Learning Community to assist leaders in meeting challenges of serving their communities
AMOUNT: $15,000 YEAR AUTHORIZED: 2000 

Record 11
FOUNDATION NAME: S. H. Cowell Foundation
ABSTRACT: For Leadership Learning program
AMOUNT: $25,000 YEAR AUTHORIZED: 2000 

Record 12
FOUNDATION NAME: Fannie Mae Foundation
ABSTRACT: For Grantmakers for Effective Organizations, affinity group of national funders collaborative focused on grantmaking for organizational effectiveness
AMOUNT: $10,000 YEAR AUTHORIZED: 2000 

Record 13
FOUNDATION NAME: Wallace Alexander Gerbode Foundation
ABSTRACT: For Environmental Media Services' California Environmental Rapid Response Project
AMOUNT: $25,000 YEAR AUTHORIZED: 2001 

Record 14
FOUNDATION NAME: Bank of America Foundation, Inc.
ABSTRACT: For memorial grove in Golden Gate Park
AMOUNT: $10,000 YEAR AUTHORIZED: 1999 

Record 15
FOUNDATION NAME: Bank of America Foundation, Inc.
ABSTRACT: For Community-Based Organization (CBO) internships for graduate students
AMOUNT: $15,000 YEAR AUTHORIZED: 1999 

Record 16
FOUNDATION NAME: Moriah Fund
ABSTRACT: For Raising Voices, which is working in partnership with organizations in East Africa to develop and pilot community-based strategies to prevent domestic violence
AMOUNT: $40,000 YEAR AUTHORIZED: 2000 

Record 17
FOUNDATION NAME: Moriah Fund
ABSTRACT: For Women's Health Exchange, project which will conduct in-depth analysis of existing data to determine impact of violence on women's health, with special emphasis on sexual and reproductive health, and build research capacity on gender violence in Latin America, Asia and Africa
AMOUNT: $40,000 YEAR AUTHORIZED: 2000

Record 18
FOUNDATION NAME: Moriah Fund
ABSTRACT: To ensure that population and health polices of international institutions supported by U.S. government actively promote women's reproductive and sexual health
AMOUNT: $50,000 YEAR AUTHORIZED: 2000

Record 19
FOUNDATION NAME: Foundation for Deep Ecology
ABSTRACT: For general support
AMOUNT: $10,000 YEAR AUTHORIZED: 2000 

Record 20
FOUNDATION NAME: Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation
ABSTRACT: For Brave Kids program to develop directory of health care resources for seriously ill children in Washington State
AMOUNT: $100,000 YEAR AUTHORIZED: 2000

251 posted on 03/08/2004 5:40:21 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (Is it time to water the tree of Liberty ?)
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To: doug from upland
Branch 214 of the National Association of Letter Carriers

Interesting. I wonder where Branch 214 calls it's nest?

252 posted on 03/08/2004 5:46:54 PM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: Lion in Winter
http://www.undueinfluence.com/tidescenter.htm

Thats the link for the above there are more im still digging !

Tides Center
PO Box 29907 Bldg 1014
San Francisco, CA 94129
Phone: (415) 561-6300
Fax: (415) 561-6301
Website: http://www.tides.org
Email: adavis@tides.org
Description: Star-nest for left-wing causes, provides fund-raising and management services for groups that can't or won't get their own IRS tax exemption.



Questions or comments: webweaver@tides.org

Bullitt Grants
Note particularly three Bullitt grants to the Tides Center targeted on Ferry County, Washington, to attack brave citizens who speak out against those who act to destroy their logging, mining and ranching heritage with Bullitt Foundation grants.
Tides Center (Environmental Media Services)
Tides Center (Honor the Earth Fund)
Tides Center (ONE/Northwest)

http://www.undueinfluence.com/bullit.htm WOW JUST WOW

http://www.undueinfluence.com/exxon_mobil_attacks.htm

http://www.abolishthebank.org/ <----- SOME OF THESE ARE ON THE COMMUNIST WEBSITES I POSTED EARLIER

It gets weider and weirder

http://www.leftturn.org/Articles/ElectionForum.aspx

APPLICATION GUIDELINES FOR BECOMING A PROJECT OF TIDES CENTER

In applying to be a sponsored project of Tides Center, please follow these steps:


Review the criteria listed below to assess whether or not your organization is an appropriate candidate.
Answer the application questions listed below. Applicants are encouraged to answer each of the questions as described but may instead submit a short (approximately 10 pages) previously-written document or proposal, ensuring that all of the questions are answered. Please limit the amount of supplemental materials you submit and be sure to number the pages.
Submit a completed application to the address listed below.
Criteria:


Organization's activities must be charitable in purpose.
Organization's activities must contribute to the mission of Tides Center (listed above).
Organization must have a need for, and the potential to benefit from the services provided by Tides Center.
Organization must be willing to work in collaboration with Tides Center.
Organization must plan to stay with Tides Center for at least one year.
Organization, in most cases, must not be a 501(c)(3) organization, as determined by the Internal Revenue Service.
At this time we are only considering applicants which have annual budgets of $200,000 with confirmed funds.

Application Questions:


How did you hear about Tides Center?
How did this organization or project start?
Describe why your organization is needed and how this was determined?
What is the mission or primary goal of the organization?
What is your initial strategy for achieving the mission or primary goal?
Describe your strategy for raising funds to support the organization (please include a list of any existing or confirmed funding).
How is the organization connected to a community or network?
How is diversity prioritized in your organization's work?
Describe the leadership and overall organizational structure and, if applicable, please also describe:
the role of different staff
the role of an advisory board or steering committee In each case, please include a brief biographical description of any individuals who have been identified for these positions.
Please submit an annual budget (see attached sample template).
Please submit completed applications to:

Coordinator for New Projects
Tides Center
PO Box 29907
San Francisco, CA 94129-0907
Or via email at: newprojects@tides.org


Questions? Please call: 415.561.7830

Thanks!



http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:VMBMyqHOCc8J:mideastreality.com/fundleft.html+TIDES+funds+&hl=en&start=16&ie=UTF-8

Since the September 11 attacks on the U.S., the Tides foundation has actively worked in support of Islamists and their advocates.
253 posted on 03/08/2004 6:05:50 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (Is it time to water the tree of Liberty ?)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Ingersoll-Rand Company Limited
Clarendon House, 2 Church Street, Hamilton HM 11, Bermuda
Copyright ©2004 Ingersoll-Rand. All rights reserved.
Ingersoll-Rand is an equal opportunity and affirmative action employer.
seekinfo@irco.com

Contact them and ask them why Heinz helped them move to the Bahamas ?
254 posted on 03/08/2004 6:24:26 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (Is it time to water the tree of Liberty ?)
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To: TADSLOS
They are in the freak show we call San Francisco.
255 posted on 03/08/2004 6:24:42 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: endthematrix
IMHO, the leadership of many Unions (not naming names) have gone from being puppets of the Mafia to being puppets of the DNC. Was likely an EASY transition.
256 posted on 03/08/2004 9:02:19 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is slavery.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
This is the part that gets me!!

"Description: Star-nest for left-wing causes, provides fund-raising and management services for groups that can't or won't get their own IRS tax exemption."

WHY IS THAT??? Something illegal or phoney????

You know what? I think it is time to come up with a NEW LEFT WING PROJECT and get an application for some MOOOOLAH!! LOL

257 posted on 03/09/2004 2:14:36 AM PST by Lion in Winter
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To: doug from upland
As a member of the "Coast Guard Combat Veterans Association" and a WW2 vet who was attached to "CG Rescue Flotilla 1" at the Normandy Invasion on 6/6/'44, I strongly suggest that all who are upset and worried about this individual (who publicly has made a statement for Commie and dissident groups who 'proudly' oppose our military actions in Iraq and around the world) contact CG Headquarters in DC and VAdm. Hull, who I believe heads the Eastern Area within which this person serves according to his address.---sorry, I don't know how to give links but am sure you can find CG website.--I intend to send this subject to my CGCVA and CG headquarters myself as it is a "stain" on a service organization I greatly respect.
258 posted on 03/09/2004 10:05:44 PM PST by cmotormac44
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To: cmotormac44
I spoke on the phone to a senior chief yesterday in Virginia. He verified that the guy is a real Coastguardsman and assigned to a Cutter. The senior chief could not believe what the guy was doing. He was both astounded and angry. I think Jameel
Rashid is in for some big, big trouble.
259 posted on 03/09/2004 10:12:17 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: cmotormac44
Oh, I forgot in my previous response. You have my eternal gratitude for your role in saving the world from the Nazis.
260 posted on 03/09/2004 10:13:26 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: doug from upland
I'm looking, but I don't see my favorite organizations:

Society of Paranoid Campus Crackpots
South Central Crackheads Against Ashcroft
Peace Through Depression Coalition
Screeching Actress Society
Association of Wealthy Spoiled Westenders
Marxists Driving Mercedes Consortium

and so many others....
261 posted on 03/09/2004 10:21:33 PM PST by moodyskeptic (weekend warrior in the culture war)
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To: doug from upland
I hope the fellow crewmen on his cutter (did the cpo mention the cutters name?) sleep well each night with a 'dissident' among them, especially the officers who may wonder whether they will live out the nite as some did not in Kuwait when another 'dissident' fragged the tents---just think how safe we all are with that cutter on Homeland Security patrols--as an aside,thanks for the appreciation regards WW2 but I was only one of some 16 million total under arms back then and the real heroes never came home-
262 posted on 03/09/2004 11:22:14 PM PST by cmotormac44
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To: cmotormac44
A Chief Warrant Officer phoned me today. They are following up on the complaint. Adios, Jameel.
263 posted on 03/10/2004 4:36:32 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: CWOJackson
Check No. 263.
264 posted on 03/10/2004 5:03:48 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: doug from upland
Doug---did you note the fine representation by "teachers"--I count 83 of them from grade schools thru college level--no wonder some of our youth are 'brainwashed' and 'budding commies'--that doesn't count the "mush brains" (students) who probably sat at their feet and learned all about life--Do away with the Dept of Education and give America a running chance to survive-
265 posted on 03/12/2004 8:23:18 PM PST by cmotormac44
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To: doug from upland
please let us know if and when you hear about the outcome of our "hero" Coastie, Jameel Rashid
266 posted on 03/12/2004 8:25:03 PM PST by cmotormac44
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To: doug from upland
Oh hell, I would knock the crap out of ANYONE protesting in favor of those murdering NK commie *******s and thier Dear Leader. *grrrrr*

It's as bad as wearing a "I love Hitler" t-shirt in Israel.
267 posted on 03/12/2004 8:31:19 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: tarawa
I was disappointed to see that.
268 posted on 03/12/2004 8:33:09 PM PST by ostephani
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To: cmotormac44
The chief warrant officer who called me and followed up said he would probably not even know of the results. It was passed on to whoever is going to investigate.
269 posted on 03/12/2004 9:12:01 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: doug from upland
The guy who was beheaded was on this list. He was also arrested by Iraqi police and held in an Iraqi prison for a few weeks before he was kidnapped. I think they treated him better in the prison than the kidnappers did.
270 posted on 05/11/2004 11:42:16 AM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: doug from upland
"Michael S. Berg, Teacher, Prometheus Methods Tower Service, Inc.,"

I believe this is the father of Nick Berg - I wonder what he thinks about his Muslim buddies now...
271 posted on 05/11/2004 12:33:25 PM PDT by M. Peach (eschew obfuscation)
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To: M. Peach
He won't blame the Islamofascist bastards. He will blame the president.
272 posted on 05/11/2004 12:45:03 PM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: doug from upland
"He won't blame the Islamofascist bastards. He will blame the president"

He already did. And I can guarentee you like the sun rising in the east and setting in the west, that you will see him doing just that tonight on the newtwork news and the mrning numb skull shows.
273 posted on 05/11/2004 12:50:01 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: doug from upland; M. Peach
He won't blame the Islamofascist bastards. He will blame the president.

...and he has.

Pa. family angry with American government over son's brutal death

274 posted on 05/11/2004 1:57:47 PM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: doug from upland
Mean spirited? Hell no.

This jerk dishonors all who have bravely served in the Coast Guard.
276 posted on 05/11/2004 10:33:56 PM PDT by Nawlinslady1970
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To: tarawa
Just a student group. Let's not make it sound like more than it is. Nothing university sponsored here.
277 posted on 05/11/2004 10:34:37 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Nawlinslady1970
I can't really see how he can dishonour the Coast Guard by expressing an opinion. I thought that freedom of speech and freedom of thought were important to all American citizens. Does this only apply when you agree with them? It is a peace petition. Nothing else.
278 posted on 05/12/2004 1:22:00 AM PDT by Plag_9
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To: doug from upland
People in the military aren't allowed to have a political opinion and act on it? Since when? Were you even IN the military?

Yes, call the guy's boss. Brilliant. Another great example of conservative hypocrisy. Why do you hate freedom of speech?
279 posted on 05/12/2004 8:58:21 AM PDT by HughMungus
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To: HughMungus
People in the military aren't allowed to have a political opinion and act on it? Since when? Were you even IN the military?

Yes, call the guy's boss. Brilliant. Another great example of conservative hypocrisy. Why do you hate freedom of speech?
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I don't know if I have ever seen or answered something you posted. Just as Ted Kennedy unfortunately is wasting oxygen, you are wasting bandwith. I was in the Guard. You learn very early that you may have a political opinion, but your job is to follow legal orders and do your job defending this nation.

My son-in-law is active duty Navy. He couldn't believe what this Jamaal idiot was doing. Josh could not imagine serving on mission in which a shipmate was actively engaged in undermining the troops and opposing what they were doing. Would Jamaal defend and cover the backs of those with whom he serves or would he shoot them in the back? Would he throw a grenade in a tent like the scum did in Baghdad? ANSWER wants to destroy our way of life around the world. They want to destroy our military. They want the men to shoot their officers.

Jamaal can continue his duties as a janitor in civilian life. He is not someone in whom you trust your life. You are either a fool or a leftist with a foolish agenda. Either way, may a camel in heat defile you as it sees fit. A curse on your moustache.

280 posted on 05/12/2004 10:28:40 AM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: HughMungus
Yes, call the guy's boss. Brilliant. Another great example of conservative hypocrisy. Why do you hate freedom of speech?

Calling the guy's boss *is* freedom of speech.

281 posted on 05/12/2004 10:34:21 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: All; doug from upland
Did you know FreeRepublic is being partially blamed for Nick Bergs beheading?

I ran across this posted on another Web site but have linked it here to the original article.

Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing "Enemies" List

282 posted on 05/12/2004 1:28:51 PM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: HughMungus
I'll tell you what dude, I was in the Coast Guard over 30 years and that sorry sack of crap indeed did not have the right to put "Coast Guard" on his political statement. He received far less for his actions then he would have received from me had I been his CO.
283 posted on 05/12/2004 1:32:46 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Spunky
"The list had been copied from publicly available endorsements of a call to action for an imminent anniversary antiwar protest on 20th March, 2004."

FR just copied a list. Whoever put the list together in the first place is in the mix too.

My heart and prayers go out to the Berg family, and Mr. Berg's friends. My prayers also go, daily, to our fightig men and women, and that God will strike our enemies senseless.

284 posted on 05/12/2004 1:34:43 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
"FR just copied a list."

I know that and you know that, but they are trying to give FreeRepublic a bad reputation.

My prayers are for the Berg family and friends also. Regardless of their politics they are parents and I have sympathy for what they must be going through. It has to be heart wrenching.

285 posted on 05/12/2004 2:03:28 PM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: Spunky
I know that and you know that, but they are trying to give FreeRepublic a bad reputation.

My points were that the story has a hole so big a truck could drive through it ("Those bad people over there at FR took public information and publicized it!" is hardly evidence of "being bad.") and that some folks hate conservatives as a matter of principle. The web-link you provided is to a group that lacks reason and reasoning ability.

286 posted on 05/12/2004 2:14:52 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: doug from upland
If the person in question has done anything wrong, it was not in endorsing a call for the US to withdraw from Iraq, but rather that he included his affiliation to the Coast Guard in the endorsement. I am not familar with the specific regulations that apply, but there may very well be a rule against that.

I don't understand why you assume that because someone holds a political view at odds with the Administration of the day they are somehow traitorous or untrustworthy? As you so eloquently said .."You learn very early that you may have a political opinion, but your job is to follow legal orders and do your job defending this nation."

I recall that many in the U.S. military held a very low opinion if Pres. Clinton (to say the least)and many felt that the missions that they were sent on in Bosnia and Somalia were ill advised. Quite a few were vocal on these points. Were they "actively engaged in undermining the troops"? No, they were exercising their 1st Amendment rights, and continued to serve their country with professionalism and honor. If they could could do so why do you assume that others can't?

"ANSWER wants to destroy our way of life around the world. They want to destroy our military. They want the men to shoot their officers."

Hmmm... I didn't know much about ANSWER until I read this thread but I would be curious about your sources. Where you get that they want soldiers to shoot their officers? There's nothing like that on their website ;-)
287 posted on 05/12/2004 5:08:41 PM PDT by Jefferson89
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To: Jefferson89
SOURCE: FRONT PAGE MAG

EXCERPT:
"We have to prepare to continue the struggle," cried Richard Becker, a member of both the steering committee for International A.N.S.W.E.R. and the communist Workers' World Party. Although the A.N.S.W.E.R.-organized crowd at the March 15th rally in San Francisco was smaller than in previous demonstrations, the cries from the podium were much sharper. Becker called for direct action, civil disobedience all over the city, should the United States begin a war with Iraq. But the anti-war demonstrators hadn't waited for Becker. Plans for direct action on the day of the war have been in place for weeks.

EXCERPT:
This Saturday in San Francisco, the 'class war' contingent was out in large numbers, keeping to the back of the rally at their pre-announced mobilization point. Besides the 'No War But The Class War' banner, they also favored one that read "We Support Our Troops When They Shoot Their Officers." This is more 'support' than their New York counterparts, who wrote the following message to soldiers: "Considering the common practice of talking about "supporting the troops" in times of hostilities, I should let you know how I feel. With all due respect, I want you to know that if you participate in this conflict, you are not serving me, and I don't support you."

PICTURE FROM ANOTHER FRONT PAGE MAG STORY:


288 posted on 05/12/2004 5:40:17 PM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: doug from upland
Yikes. Hadn't seen that picture. Pretty disgusting stuff. Still I'm don't think it is accurate to characterize an entire organization, which appears to be a very loose coalition, on the basis of a few whackos who show up at one of their rallies. Geez, they wouldn't even show their faces. The Left and Right both have their share of loony extremists whose words and actions should be repudiated by everyone.

Issue-based coalitions can often include people and oranizations who agree on little else besides the issue itself. Does George Bush think that abortion clinic doctors should be murdered? I seriously doubt it, but that doesn't stop him from accepting support from groups that include members who do.

We know that Jameel Rashid lent his support to a specific "call to action" that criticized US foriegn policy and called for the US to leave Iraq, so we can assume that he agrees with ANSWER on those points. We really know nothing else about him - not that he is a security risk, not that he is unfit to serve in the Coast Guard - nothing.
289 posted on 05/12/2004 7:35:24 PM PDT by Jefferson89
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To: Jefferson89
Would you want Jameel covering your back? He believes we are a colonial power. He wants our troops removed from everywhere around the world. You think he is fit to serve?
290 posted on 05/12/2004 7:41:44 PM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: Jefferson89
When is the last time you saw someone on the political right do property damage or deliberately injure someone? When do we call for the death of anyone other than our enemies? (McVeigh doesn't count. He wasn't on our side. He was a criminal mass murderer.)
291 posted on 05/12/2004 7:44:02 PM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: Jefferson89
The Warrant Officer who returned my call didn't think he was fit to serve.
293 posted on 05/12/2004 11:39:37 PM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: doug from upland
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1134576/posts

Now we at Freerepublic are responsible for Berg's death-because of this thread?
295 posted on 05/13/2004 4:10:11 AM PDT by TaxRelief (We have our marching orders, FReepers!)
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To: doug from upland
Can we say lynch-mob mentality? These individuals are American soldiers, they have enough enemies.

Jameel Rashid, U.S. Coast Guard, Portsmouth, VA
Clay A Caldwell, Military/Navy, Rialto, CA
296 posted on 05/13/2004 8:31:04 AM PDT by flyonwall
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To: doug from upland
When is the last time you saw someone on the political right do property damage or deliberately injure someone?

http://www.armyofgod.com/Claytonsmessage.html

When do we call for the death of anyone other than our enemies?



"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building"
Ann Coulter

And isn't the title of this thread HERE IS THE ENEMY? Why domestic political opponents fall under the same "enemy" label as Al Queada?
297 posted on 05/13/2004 9:39:11 AM PDT by Jefferson89
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To: flyonwall
Most of the groups on that list (the ones I checked out anyway) aren't "enemies" of the US... they're mostly just people with a flower-child mentality. It's not their ideals that people deride (ok, some of them are a little weird, or borderline socialist), it's their simplistic view on how to achieve them. And like almost all political groups (including our current two illustrious political parties), they are invariably taken over by extremists who represent the other members only in which general direction they lean.

As for the idea of a military serviceman or officer spouting this kind of political hoopla, I really think he should think twice about the particularly groups he's associating with, and current military service shouldn't be made an issue of until after an honorable discharge has come and gone. BUT... other than the people here who are serving or have served in the past, I'm really not too inclined to hear howling about patriotism from people who for the most part never served. Particularly in light of the fact that absent or questionable military service has become the norm in politics.
298 posted on 05/13/2004 10:14:33 AM PDT by PowerDiplomacy (Is it too late for Powell to declare his candidacy?)
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To: doug from upland; sunny
Regino R. Diaz-Robainas, Professor, Migrant College, Stuart, FL

I've been digging around and have been hard-pressed to find any "Migrant College" in Stuart, Florida!

299 posted on 05/13/2004 10:21:41 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: doug from upland
"You learn very early that you may have a political opinion, but your job is to follow legal orders and do your job defending this nation."

How does having and expressing an opinion interfere with your ability or willingness to follow orders? Do you think your son-in-law is 100% behind every single decision that his commanders give him? Of course not. Does that mean he'll still carry out his orders? Of course.

"You are either a fool or a leftist with a foolish agenda."

Right. Anyone who disagrees with you MUST be a leftist.

:monkey:
300 posted on 05/13/2004 11:09:41 AM PDT by HughMungus
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